Server merge: Hidden server names.

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Originally Posted by Niqote

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My reputation proceeds me apparently.

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Originally Posted by Niqote

Yes they are just names but to some of us they have value and enhance our experience!

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Huh?!
I think that the only problem with server names is that all of people will chose first ones, and when they will be full the last ones (maybe except for 10?) will remain empty as now...

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Originally Posted by Phen

My reputation proceeds me apparently.

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I am Gaias-Nique lol. That was a long time ago XD

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Originally Posted by ZettaiRyouiki

fwiw, Trabia community is currently leaning towards World 7. (7rabia)

Granted, this is just the first few hours after server merge information has been released.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...0-Server-Merge

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*nods* A lot of linkshells are attempting to stay together in this manner Gysahl : 6ysahl
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nic-Invitation

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Originally Posted by Niqote

*nods* A lot of linkshells are attempting to stay together in this manner Gysahl : 6ysahl
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nic-Invitation

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Don't forget 5elbina.

Or else.


.... ;D

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Originally Posted by Mychael

Don't forget 5elbina.

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I don't get it. :(

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Originally Posted by Elune

I don't get it. :(

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet
<3

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Originally Posted by Elune

I don't get it. :(

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Many LS's from different servers are choosing to stay together by claiming server numbers. Like the example above Selbina (5elbina) is moving to server 5. The 5 looks like an 'S'. And so on and so forth for many. (Trabia > 7rabia)

You should speak to your Linkshell members to determine if you want to move together as a group ^_^

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Originally Posted by Mychael

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet
<3

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Originally Posted by Niqote

Many LS's from different servers are choosing to stay together by claiming server numbers. Like the example above Selbina (5elbina) is moving to server 5. The 5 looks like an 'S'. And so on and so forth for many. (Trabia > 7rabia)

You should speak to your Linkshell members to determine if you want to move together as a group ^_^

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I stopped reading digits when I flunked math in high school. <_<

Eh, not following that naming schema. 3utai makes sense and all, but I think I'll stick with #7 for obvious reasons. Going to be a bitch to get everyone I know on the same page seeing as several of my friends belong to different linkshells.

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Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon

Eh, not following that naming schema. 3utai makes sense and all, but I think I'll stick with #7 for obvious reasons. Going to be a bitch to get everyone I know on the same page seeing as several of my friends belong to different linkshells.

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And that truely does suck for you and many others. If only they would merge servers to even the numbers rather then making us all pick them again. Oh and add server transfer to make the few who want to move happy.

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Originally Posted by Enma

Huh?!
I think that the only problem with server names is that all of people will chose first ones, and when they will be full the last ones (maybe except for 10?) will remain empty as now...

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Actually that most probably isn't going to happen. From what I gather SE went "Okay so we got about 8000 active players. We want about 1000 players per server, so let's reduce it to 8 servers, each one capped at 1000 players. That way, we get 1000 players in each server!"

Remember, those numbers came from my... Secret number stash, and do not correspond to factual numbers, but take into mind the proportions

There is no balance in names being hidden! If I can't see the name, I'm just going to pick server 1 like half the total community. That doesn't sound like balance.

This annoys me. I'd like them to name the servers now and allow people already on the server with that name to remain on them. This way of doing it is a complete kick in the gysahl greens.

I'm infuriated by this shit-storm of posts that continue to complain about something that's perfectly rational and well explained.

No thank you.

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Originally Posted by AngryNixon

I'm infuriated by this shit-storm of posts that continue to complain about something that's perfectly rational and well explained.

No thank you.

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Herpaderpa.

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Originally Posted by AngryNixon

I'm infuriated by this shit-storm of posts that continue to complain about something that's perfectly rational and well explained.

No thank you.

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How is this rational or at all explained? There is no balance with this. Servers are already being claimed by the whole community from existing servers. What if said server is maxed out? I'm FORCED to then give up on my LS? My friends I've made who has helped me thus far?

I'm infuriated as well. Being forced to transfer is NOT my idea of rational.

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Originally Posted by ChefKiyo

How is this rational or at all explained? There is no balance with this. Servers are already being claimed by the whole community from existing servers. What if said server is maxed out? I'm FORCED to then give up on my LS? My friends I've made who has helped me thus far?

I'm infuriated as well. Being forced to transfer is NOT my idea of rational.

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Its a strange decision to not have world names by now...of course they do have about a month to finalize them. Even still, I doubt the server pops are going to be maxed out considering the current population.

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Originally Posted by AngryNixon

I'm infuriated by this shit-storm of posts that continue to complain about something that's perfectly rational and well explained.

No thank you.

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derp derp derp derp derp.
It's a terrible deboccle.

First and foremost the reason they're doing this is to try and even out the servers. Do any of you want to play on a server that's a ghost town? I'm going to guess that most of you will say no to this. How should they achieve their goal of more even distribution?

Is it really so important that you end up on your *insert favorite name here* server that you'd forsake people who'd like to have more then a handful of people to play with?

So what is in a name really. They gave you numbers, Tell friends and family, your LS's and friendslist to decide on a server, like server 9 or something. if your really worried about RP, why not use there very forums to organize the migration, those interested in RP will listen and move. I know it may sound tough but alot of people love to RP, it all starts with you> How much action are you willing to take to get what you want. You cannot change that there are going to be server merges, but you can change what servers you select, so get it together you have qhite a bit to organize this. Spend this time thinking of getting what you want, and not complaining about how surprising this is. I have faith you will all band together and find a solution.

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Originally Posted by Radav

First and foremost the reason they're doing this is to try and even out the servers. Do any of you want to play on a server that's a ghost town? I'm going to guess that most of you will say no to this. How should they achieve their goal of more even distribution?

Is it really so important that you end up on your *insert favorite name here* server that you'd forsake people who'd like to have more then a handful of people to play with?

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Yep even servers out, people have already said this will not work people will go to 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 "message server number 1 is at capacity" 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 "Message Server 2 is at capacity" *Rage posts on these forums about people whos linkshell went to server 2* 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3 "server 3 is at capacity but we are reopening server 1" *Rage posts on these forums "My ls went to server 1 and I was forced onto *insert server number* now I cant play with them"* and it will go on, you call that balance?

I think your overthinking this, I am pretty sure by march they will have elaborated on how it will work and even give the server names. despite what everyone rages about with posts , SE really dosnt let us down that much. everyone thinks its the end of the world when they implement X but when ti happens everfyone ends up happy with X. besides the migration to the 2.0 servers were gonna be like this anyways, if anything it gives you a what to expect feeling and it lets SE notice and correct any difficencies tehy encounter with a server merger/Transfer. All in all things will be fine

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Yep even servers out, people have already said this will not work people will go to 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 "message server number 1 is at capacity" 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 "Message Server 2 is at capacity" *Rage posts on these forums about people whos linkshell went to server 2* 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3 "server 3 is at capacity but we are reopening server 1" *Rage posts on these forums "My ls went to server 1 and I was forced onto *insert server number* now I cant play with them"* and it will go on, you call that balance?

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I do not call that balanced. I also do not believe that's what is going to happen. They have stated that you will be able to switch during a period of time. If your LS gets on a server that fills up and decides to leave you behind maybe they didn't like you very much. If you really think that everyone is just going to randomly pick 1 then 2 then 3 and so on... I think you've not taken a very close look at the forums today.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Yep even servers out, people have already said this will not work people will go to 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 "message server number 1 is at capacity" 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 "Message Server 2 is at capacity" *Rage posts on these forums about people whos linkshell went to server 2* 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3 "server 3 is at capacity but we are reopening server 1" *Rage posts on these forums "My ls went to server 1 and I was forced onto *insert server number* now I cant play with them"* and it will go on, you call that balance?

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I think your ls would be pretty dumb to pick 1 2 or 3 as the choice seeing as yea they probably would fill up the fastest ^.-

On a side note what do you think Selbina becomes... *drumroll* Muhara!! Grats you shipped over without being attacked by the pirates!! *throws a big party!<33*

I would like to offer some insight into why we decided not to display the World names.

The operations and development teams held many internal discussions regarding how the Worlds were going to be merged. We discussed displaying the World names and allowing players to choose their destination and we also considered having some Worlds dissolved and merged into other existing worlds.

We did consider deciding on the World names beforehand, but the problem is that players often choose which World to go to based on its name (to be more specific, currently both Selbina and Gysahl are highly populated due to the popularity of the World names).

Therefore, when merging 18 servers into 10, you can imagine that there will be a rush to choose the Worlds that have popular names. These would fill up quickly and we would have to stop letting people in, and then it would end up being something of a lottery. Taking into consideration the time difference and what day etc, it was really hard to decide, but as we are making playing together as a community a priority, we have decided to hold back the World names and let people choose this way.

We are aware that some players may be frustrated at this, and we apologize for that but please try to understand our reasoning. We haven’t decided which World will get what name yet. For, things like drawing lots and other methods, we want to think about this separately.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

I would like to offer some insight into why we decided not to display the World names.

The operations and development teams held many internal discussions regarding how the Worlds were going to be merged. We discussed displaying the World names and allowing players to choose their destination and we also considered having some Worlds dissolved and merged into other existing worlds.

We did consider deciding on the World names beforehand, but the problem is that players often choose which World to go to based on its name (to be more specific, currently both Selbina and Gysahl are highly populated due to the popularity of the World names).

Therefore, when merging 18 servers into 10, you can imagine that there will be a rush to choose the Worlds that have popular names. These would fill up quickly and we would have to stop letting people in, and then it would end up being something of a lottery. Taking into consideration the time difference and what day etc, it was really hard to decide, but as we are making playing together as a community a priority, we have decided to hold back the World names and let people choose this way.

We are aware that some players may be frustrated at this, and we apologize for that but please try to understand our reasoning. We haven’t decided which World will get what name yet. For, things like drawing lots and other methods, we want to think about this separately.

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And thar you go. A reasonable answer.

Which is perfectly logical and what some people have been saying all along but well...

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

I would like to offer some insight into why we decided not to display the World names.

The operations and development teams held many internal discussions regarding how the Worlds were going to be merged. We discussed displaying the World names and allowing players to choose their destination and we also considered having some Worlds dissolved and merged into other existing worlds.

We did consider deciding on the World names beforehand, but the problem is that players often choose which World to go to based on its name (to be more specific, currently both Selbina and Gysahl are highly populated due to the popularity of the World names).

Therefore, when merging 18 servers into 10, you can imagine that there will be a rush to choose the Worlds that have popular names. These would fill up quickly and we would have to stop letting people in, and then it would end up being something of a lottery. Taking into consideration the time difference and what day etc, it was really hard to decide, but as we are making playing together as a community a priority, we have decided to hold back the World names and let people choose this way.

We are aware that some players may be frustrated at this, and we apologize for that but please try to understand our reasoning. We haven’t decided which World will get what name yet. For, things like drawing lots and other methods, we want to think about this separately.

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I would prefer it if we could see the world names before the merge, if for example I end up on one with a name based on FFXIII I will be really unhappy because that was by far the FF I least enjoyed, as people have said I see the server name as an extension of my character name. From what has been said by Rainhart (sp?) I believe the Japanese side also agree.

There will be the possibility of numbered servers filling up when we choose for people that are too lazy to go down the list, and if I cant play with my ls because of it I will be very annoyed.

At the very least take this feedback into consideration. Asking alot of people to choose thier server based on a number is like asking them to choose thier character name based on a random number.

I am perfectly fine with not knowing the new name of a server. Still a bit worried about how they are merging servers together though.

Fair argument; will it be the same for new players who buy the game after the merge?

Or for reroll?

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Originally Posted by northernsky

Fair argument; will it be the same for new players who buy the game after the merge?

Or for reroll?

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They said they will release the names of the servers after the transfer window has closed, so effectively punishing us, people currently playing cannot choose a server based on nostalgia, but new players when they open servers to a choice again will/

People feel passionate about something, lets remove the reason to be passionate and stick them with some random shit they don't want rather than what they want. I get the reasoning but its flawed, 1 and 2 gonna be a lottery folks, and its in direct opposition with everything I've known of this game in the last year. I am constantly defending this game to people and the one thing I could always rely on was a dev team that was sympathetic to the players and this has seriously ruined that in my eyes.

I just its baffling to me. Choose your Grand Company and nation based off what you love but SE knows best on this?

For those going its fine the way it is, would it really bother you if it said names? Really are you that concerned if a server is just slightly higher?

its just a server name who chars what its called as long as you are still with friends thats all that matters tbh they should just keep it numbers to avoid it all

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

I would like to offer some insight into why we decided not to display the World names.

The operations and development teams held many internal discussions regarding how the Worlds were going to be merged. We discussed displaying the World names and allowing players to choose their destination and we also considered having some Worlds dissolved and merged into other existing worlds.

We did consider deciding on the World names beforehand, but the problem is that players often choose which World to go to based on its name (to be more specific, currently both Selbina and Gysahl are highly populated due to the popularity of the World names).

Therefore, when merging 18 servers into 10, you can imagine that there will be a rush to choose the Worlds that have popular names. These would fill up quickly and we would have to stop letting people in, and then it would end up being something of a lottery. Taking into consideration the time difference and what day etc, it was really hard to decide, but as we are making playing together as a community a priority, we have decided to hold back the World names and let people choose this way.

We are aware that some players may be frustrated at this, and we apologize for that but please try to understand our reasoning. We haven’t decided which World will get what name yet. For, things like drawing lots and other methods, we want to think about this separately.

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What I don't understand is, why you're making people choose at all?
I mean, without server names available, there's no real point.

Why not just merge low population servers with mid and high population, then change the name from there? It's not like we'd be any more upset with what names you choose for that than the names you choose for these servers we're randomly picking. I already have to drop one of my linkshells because they're choosing a different server than my main linkshell.
What's the point of that?

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Originally Posted by Niqote

I am absolutely infuriated about this utterly unnecessary complication in world transfer!

* The new Worlds shall inherit the names of the ten most popular current Worlds. Name assignments will be announced after the transfer selection period has ended.

What ridiculous reason could you have for hiding our server names from us until we are on them?
Yes they are just names but to some of us they have value and enhance our experience!

I chose my server for a reason, it is one of the top and will be featured as a name in the 10 but I and my friends who also want to stay on the same name have to chance getting it in a stupid hope of luck?

Please change this and allow us to see the server names before we transfer!!

Perhaps it would have been easier to truly merge server A to server B. At least you would have guaranteed control of the numbers. Perhaps even allow everyone the free transfer anyway ... but it should be a choice, don't force us to split up or follow one group in hopes that we can stay together,

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To me at least, a server name is nothing more than a tool that makes you more or less favorable to picking a certain world. I don't see whats keeping someone from starting a thread that says, SERVER NUMBER 5 WILL BE THE UNOFFICIAL RP SERVER. I mean, once your on the server, how often do you use your server name in conversation throughout your time playing the game. If anything, this gives people that want to play on a RP server but didn't go to besaid because they didnt know what it was the chance to join up. Instead of posting a thread complaining about something that isn't going to change, why not start one now while you have time that brings the people together that share your view onto one of the new servers? You certainly have a few weeks to get that going, and from the posts I have read in other OP's, there are a TON of people that would get onboard with that. Try to focus more on ways to turn what you perceive as a negative into a positive. As long as you accomplish your goal, who really cares what they end up naming the server?

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Originally Posted by Akira

its just a server name who chars what its called as long as you are still with friends thats all that matters tbh they should just keep it numbers to avoid it all

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Look Alice, maybe us and all of our friends want to say- be on the server that is named for our favorite game?

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Originally Posted by Phen

Look Alice, maybe us and all of our friends want to say- be on the server that is named for our favorite game?

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I want a Lamborghini Murciélago.

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Originally Posted by Biggs

To me at least, a server name is nothing more than a tool that makes you more or less favorable to picking a certain world. I don't see whats keeping someone from starting a thread that says, SERVER NUMBER 5 WILL BE THE UNOFFICIAL RP SERVER. I mean, once your on the server, how often do you use your server name in conversation throughout your time playing the game. If anything, this gives people that want to play on a RP server but didn't go to besaid because they didnt know what it was the chance to join up. Instead of posting a thread complaining about something that isn't going to change, why not start one now while you have time that brings the people together that share your view onto one of the new servers? You certainly have a few weeks to get that going, and from the posts I have read in other OP's, there are a TON of people that would get onboard with that. Try to focus more on ways to turn what you perseive as a negative into a positive. As long as you accomplish your goal, who really cares what they end up naming the server?

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Wedge let me level with ya here, ill see it everyday associated with my character, every time i log in, and every time Im talking to people ya know, outside of game. What we are focusing on is reversing this before you know, we get stuck with something we don't like.