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    Server merge: Hidden server names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    If you are not already aware, a translation of Yoshi-P's response to our outcry has been posted.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...044#post547044

    It's great that we have been heard and he makes a good address of the issue. There is a chance they will change the current plans.

    These were the options: Personally I like ② the best out of all of them... This way we can stay together and still give those people who want to go somewhere totally different the choice! ... for all the reasoning in the post this one just screams out at me as the obvious best choice.

    ①A + B⇒A World to merge with B World
    ②A + B - X ⇒A World to merge with B World, except people that would like to move are able to choose a different World
    ③A + B - C ⇒A World to merge with B World, except people that would like to move are able to choose to go to C World
    ④Prepare 10 Worlds, set a limit, and give everyone the power to move their characters to a World of their choice.
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    I am absolutely infuriated about this utterly unnecessary complication in world transfer!

    * The new Worlds shall inherit the names of the ten most popular current Worlds. Name assignments will be announced after the transfer selection period has ended.

    What ridiculous reason could you have for hiding our server names from us until we are on them?
    Yes they are just names but to some of us they have value and enhance our experience!

    I chose my server for a reason, it is one of the top and will be featured as a name in the 10 but I and my friends who also want to stay on the same name have to chance getting it in a stupid hope of luck?

    Please change this and allow us to see the server names before we transfer!!

    Perhaps it would have been easier to truly merge server A to server B. At least you would have guaranteed control of the numbers. Perhaps even allow everyone the free transfer anyway ... but it should be a choice, don't force us to split up or follow one group in hopes that we can stay together,




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    I would like to offer some insight into why we decided not to display the World names.

    The operations and development teams held many internal discussions regarding how the Worlds were going to be merged. We discussed displaying the World names and allowing players to choose their destination and we also considered having some Worlds dissolved and merged into other existing worlds.

    We did consider deciding on the World names beforehand, but the problem is that players often choose which World to go to based on its name (to be more specific, currently both Selbina and Gysahl are highly populated due to the popularity of the World names).

    Therefore, when merging 18 servers into 10, you can imagine that there will be a rush to choose the Worlds that have popular names. These would fill up quickly and we would have to stop letting people in, and then it would end up being something of a lottery. Taking into consideration the time difference and what day etc, it was really hard to decide, but as we are making playing together as a community a priority, we have decided to hold back the World names and let people choose this way.

    We are aware that some players may be frustrated at this, and we apologize for that but please try to understand our reasoning. We haven’t decided which World will get what name yet. For, things like drawing lots and other methods, we want to think about this separately.
    Thank you for an official response. However the problem remains where people are going to flood the servers based on numbers 1 and 2 will obviously fill up fast. 7 will as well. Officially 10 is recommended for certain language groups... what difference does it make to give us our names except to give us back a pleasure we are crying out for?
    In the end it's the same result but with happier people...
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    Last edited by Niqote; 02-10-2012 at 01:25 PM.

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    So the same people don't flock to those servers thus giving an uneven weight to the servers.

    The whole point is to spread out the population evenly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    So the same people don't flock to those servers thus giving an uneven weight to the servers.

    The whole point is to spread out the population evenly.
    But it's the top 10 meaning all of the servers will have a pre determined population of people wanting to stay there, there is already an amount of even ground in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    So the same people don't flock to those servers thus giving an uneven weight to the servers.

    The whole point is to spread out the population evenly.
    Which is a good idea in theory, except it won't work. More people will think of how barren most of the servers are and just select option 1, 2, or whichever the first available one is giving that one a higher population. I know I will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    I am absolutely infuriated about this utterly unnecessary complication in world transfer!

    * The new Worlds shall inherit the names of the ten most popular current Worlds. Name assignments will be announced after the transfer selection period has ended.

    What ridiculous reason could you have for hiding our server names from us until we are on them?
    Yes they are just names but to some of us they have value and enhance our experience!

    I chose my server for a reason, it is one of the top and will be featured as a name in the 10 but I and my friends who also want to stay on the same name have to chance getting it in a stupid hope of luck?

    Please change this and allow us to see the server names before we transfer!!
    That's kind of the thing with the RP community here on Besaid too. Besaid is known as the unnofficial RP server. Soon as merges are done and names are revealed the RP community may not even be on Besaid anymore, but Selbina, Istory, even Fabul if it's one of the top 10 servers they pick for naming. This means those in the future if Besaid still exists as another server will end up choosing that server expecting RPers but end up finding they made a mistake.
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    I agree. Server name is more than just a name to me as well. If they weren't the names of previous FF towns that may be another story, though.

    While I'll be moving to whatever server my LS decides, I'd still hate to end up on Rabanastre for example. God, FF12 was such a shitty game lol. I'd much rather be in Fabul again, or ideally Narshe if it was an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    I agree. Server name is more than just a name to me as well.
    ... and I guess that's why they hide them, so what you think of the name doesn't influence the decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aku View Post
    ... and I guess that's why they hide them, so what you think of the name doesn't influence the decision.
    Do you really think that's a good call? Making everyone some people miserable with their server name? If they don't give us the name, I'd honestly prefer that they remain "Server 01," etc. forever.

    EDIT: My own pet peeve, including everyone in a stereotype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mychael View Post
    Do you really think that's a good call? Making everyone some people miserable with their server name? If they don't give us the name, I'd honestly prefer that they remain "Server 01," etc. forever.

    EDIT: My own pet peeve, including everyone in a stereotype.
    I'm not saying if it's a good call or not, I'm just saying I can see the reasoning that is behind the decision. Some people are just loudly wondering why, oh why they don't give us the server names. There's a reason why: so you don't choose them based on the name.

    Sure, you might want to choose a server name you want as another part of your character, but SE might want population to spread without any server getting more or less popular because of its name. They're two points of view, and I can see the reasoning behind them both.

    The reason I posted that is diferent, I'm just amazed how some people can say, and I quote, "what ridiculous reason could you have for hiding our server names from us until we are on them"... and them say they choose their name for a reason. So there you have it, they don't give us the name so you don't choose based on them, geez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aku View Post
    I'm not saying if it's a good call or not, I'm just saying I can see the reasoning that is behind the decision. Some people are just loudly wondering why, oh why they don't give us the server names. There's a reason why: so you don't choose them based on the name.

    Sure, you might want to choose a server name you want as another part of your character, but SE might want population to spread without any server getting more or less popular because of its name. They're two points of view, and I can see the reasoning behind them both.

    The reason I posted that is diferent, I'm just amazed how some people can say, and I quote, "what ridiculous reason could you have for hiding our server names from us until we are on them"... and them say they choose their name for a reason. So there you have it, they don't give us the name so you don't choose based on them, geez.
    Ah but there is no difference between choosing for the love of a name or a number.

    I have said this before earlier; Server 1 and 2 will fill up first. Server 4 might be will be avoided by Japanese people for superstition or loved for the culture of it all, server 10 has officially been offered as a specific language server and you can see groups popping up claiming server numbers for thier servers (7rabia, 8esaid etc)

    Even then, they might release exp loss on deaths next month and of course there is a reason, doesn't mean everyone in the FF world should say ... oh ok if you think that is best.
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    Last edited by Niqote; 02-10-2012 at 01:07 AM. Reason: I did a boo boo

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