Quaintrelle's Ruffled Skirt needs FIXING!

I support a fix for the skirt.

This really highlights another issue - the number of tops that come with an assortment of scarves, plates, belts and bags that hang below the waist.
What I'd give for a set of 'basic' tops (like the race-locked hempen camises) that don't have all that clutter.

I was gonna buy this. Now I won't.

Yeah, I am really disappointed that this thread is still relevant. IMO they should have fixed this by now. I have the skirt but don't use it as often as I'd like for exactly this reason, it just doesn't go with anything I'd want to pair it with outside of the Miqo'te version of the hempen top. The other two or so chest items it does pair with aren't really my style.

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Originally Posted by Solarra

This really highlights another issue - the number of tops that come with an assortment of scarves, plates, belts and bags that hang below the waist.
What I'd give for a set of 'basic' tops (like the race-locked hempen camises) that don't have all that clutter.

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I would love to have separate "waist" glamour pieces that can carry those designs, and be able to mix and match!

Apparently it actually was set up that way in 1.0, but it became a design restriction that every piece of gear needed a separate waist piece designed for it, and pants needed "blank space" for the waist item to be placed onto. (Can see that with ARR-era pants, and I think also robes - I didn't play 1.0 myself, but have noticed that Papalymo and Urianger's costumes have fancy belts over what are otherwise standard ARR robe models, so I assume that's how they were originally designed to work.)

So now the waist slot is invisible, and the waist items get attached to either the top or the pants - and then on pants (and certain ruffled skirts!) they're programmed to vanish when combined with certain tops.

I would have liked to see an inbetween system that could keep the waist gear visible, but only used for some models and not others - but at the same time I can see how strange this would seem, having some items appear when equipped and some having no effect. Or only giving visible items to some classes and not others - eg. the Lv70 AST pants have a fancy sash that would be great as a separate item, but I don't think you could have something equivalent for every relic set.

But it would be wonderful to have that freedom to combine different sets, and give a lot more value to those waist items for lasting glamour.



And yes, I'd like to have some more basic "utility" pieces that can mix and match with a lot of different gear! As well as shirts, I'd love to see a set of "sleeve modifiers" so you can make any item have short or long sleeves, and either fitting or gathered styles - they have this sort of idea scattered across differerent class- or gender-locked sets, but I'd love to see some universal ones. (Or introduce them as parts of sets - it definitely feels like a missed opportunity with the Boulevardier shirt! That would look so nice with full-length sleeves but the options for adding them are few and far between.)

Best thing about being a Male Highlander? Don't have to worry about things like this. Lol. Though I can see why it upsets people as it causes problems with glamour, which is a big part of the game's appeal
Now if they could only fix the issues... and maybe add a proper tank top shirt to the game and also let cross job glamours happen.

Why is this freaking skirt still broken?

Yuh, it's upsetting to see yet another concern/issue being ignored, starting to loose faith in se

Am not playing female characters, but when I saw it on my friend, was utterly disappointed. Im aware many "belts" disappear when you equip a large body, but this skirt turns into thighs only...

You have my support D:

sure really need fix

I wish that many pants would not half disappear when adding a shirt. The final stage of the eureka pants only glow at the belt which is removed with most shirts :(

Fine, but fix everything else that does the same thing. Storyteller's Bottoms lose their sash with any top that extends down slightly.

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Originally Posted by MsQi

Fine, but fix everything else that does the same thing. Storyteller's Bottoms lose their sash with any top that extends down slightly.

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I wish they would. I have a very cute miq female alt who is supposed to be ~16-18 and I'd prefer not to have her in underwear every time I want to put a skirt on her - and not just the quaintrelle's skirt. (That being said, the crescent moon bottoms are super cute with the quaintrelle's dress!)

Several patches have passed and they have not wanted to fix this skirt (and many other belts in pants that should not disappear), despite being something so simple to fix, sincerely I have already lost the hope of wearing the skirt in a good glamour :(

Just a little reminder that the Quaintrelle's Ruffled Skirt still turns into underwear with 95% of tops and that should reeeeeeeally change please.
When you have some time devs :3

They mentioned reclassifying some gear that is set to hide lower body gear for the 2B butt, hopefully that could also make the quaintrelle skirt usable as well.

My take on this is that in the case of the Lightning set, they want you to wear the full set. This doesn't explain why any top that extends below the waist line causes the same issue though..

My old 3D modeling mind tells me it's an issue with bones/slots being used by the top which the bottom can't share since that bone/slot is already occupied.

Glamour is the true endgame indeed. When you want a truly unique set and try to be creative, this is where you run into all the limitations of the glamour system. I stay away from skirts, they just don't work well with anything unless the top is going to be something I don't want, and the good looking skirts that would, dye very poorly or have some annoying leggings attached that don't dye at all.

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Originally Posted by Rasikko

My take on this is that in the case of the Lightning set, they want you to wear the full set. This doesn't explain why any top that extends below the waist line causes the same issue though..

My old 3D modeling mind tells me it's an issue with bones/slots being used by the top which the bottom can't share since that bone/slot is already occupied.

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This isn't true because the long skirts follow the same physics as the robes and don't get cut off. It's literally just an on/off switch they put on items to avoid clipping when they extend past a certain point away from the character.

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Originally Posted by Roda

This isn't true because the long skirts follow the same physics as the robes and don't get cut off. It's literally just an on/off switch they put on items to avoid clipping when they extend past a certain point away from the character.

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Ah, then I can only say it's laziness with adjusting polys.

The new kupo jacket from those kupo scratch tickets works with quaintrelle's ruffled skirt. As well as the YoRHa striking jacket and the summer indigo shirt - all of them with a little clipping, but not so much that it's too annoying. But the hannish wool autumn shirt still makes the skirt disappear.

It would be really great if you could finally fix this. There are many tops that would definitely work with the skirt.

ZZZz It's still a problem. Come on, SE, fix it. I know you can.

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Originally Posted by Leloa

Like this they should be called tights... Because literally every shirt cuts the skirt off for some reason like eehhh...? Why do you design a pretty skirt (most prettiest in game so far) AND RUIN IT with this clipping crap SE?!

You can only wear the skirt visibly with like hempen shirt or a freaking bikini WHO wears bikinis with a skirt??

I was so excited to wear it with Hannish wool shirt BUT NO. You won't let me...

FIX IT PLEASE.

How can they notice this and do they do fixes like this?

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It is by far one of the most useless pieces of glamour because nothing goes with it without clipping. That its been ignored all these years is kinda unacceptable

At this point, I just use the Quaintrelle's skirt as another paid of thigh-highs at a slightly different length to the bridesmaid one. I've gotten so used to it being broken that I only use it for the leggings now.
Don't get me wrong; they should obviously fix it. I just think it's funny and sad.

I noticed this recently too… I mean sometimes I like it when things cover up other parts of gear, particularly the arm pieces a lot of the time. But this is just silly… there’s like 3 shirts you can wear and still have this skirt show up!

I’ll add that it goes really well with Drindl’s Bodice though, if you’re willing to pay for that set.

Wow this request has really fallen on deaf ears hasn't it. I liked the skirt too, used it a bit til I realized it doesn't work with a lot of tops, even when it should. Stopped using it. Now it's just junk