Yoshi Interview at PGS

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Originally Posted by Arrius

Be specific what you want - References, images, sketches, or a decent description always helps in determining of what you imagine to be a good addition.

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Right.

Yet plenty of people have been specific. Sure, there's a lot of silly and tiresome threads about character customisation but a lot of people have consistently provided in-depth feedback on specific aspects that they wish to see improved - such as more facial hair options for male characters as well as new scars and tattoos across the board.

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【キャラオプションの追加について】Regarding Character Options.
・選べるパーツを増やすというのは課題なのでフィードバックが欲しい Instead of face options they are looking into adding more character parts. They require feedback on this.

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I would like clarification on what "adding more character parts" means.
Does that mean like adding more parts for already existing features like eyes, mouths, ears, tails, etc.?
Or does that mean adding new parts/categories to like scars, beards, etc.? Maybe even body types/builds?
Or is it just adding more face paint and hairstyle options? :B

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Right.

Yet plenty of people have been specific. Sure, there's a lot of silly and tiresome threads about character customisation but a lot of people have consistently provided in-depth feedback on specific aspects that they wish to see improved - such as more facial hair options for male characters as well as new scars and tattoos across the board.

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And I do believe they do listen to feedback, but they might have neither the time nor the resources to take every suggestion into consideration.
That doesn't mean you should stop, though - Glamours were always a heated topic every since it came out, and they finally got their heads out to address it properly.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

-Everyone can get a house.

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I dont believe that until i see it.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Pros of that tidbit:
-Everyone can get a house.
That really interests me because even if he adds more wards, there is no stopping alts from getting an extra house. So I truly hope when he says everyone, he means one per acct or at the very least, one per World.

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He never said everyone would be able to point-blank get a house, he said they were going to add a system where everyone can have a chance at obtaining a house fair-and-square.

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パッチ4.2に向かって土地を増やして皆さんに公平に渡るように全力で開発を行っている なので今のところ大型のアパルトメントの開発予定はないがタスクが終わった後で前向きに検討したい

We're currently working in adding more wards and a system where everyone can obtain a new house fair and square for Patch 4.2.
Therefore for now we don't have plans to develop a large scale apartments right now but once we get the current task done, we'd like to move forward and see what we can do with it.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

He never said everyone would be able to point-blank get a house, he said they were going to add a system where everyone can have a chance at obtaining a house fair-and-square.

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I'm struggling to find many ways that they will make this fair. My thoughts are 1) new wards will be created as they fill up, letting everyone get a house if they want, and 2) some sort of lottery system where they can register ahead of time.

It's not going to be fair if people still need to contend with server queues or possibly another 3 a.m. PST launch.

Did they even upgrade the servers?

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Originally Posted by Arrius

and they finally got their heads out to address it properly.

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That remains to be seen.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

I would like clarification on what "adding more character parts" means.
Does that mean like adding more parts for already existing features like eyes, mouths, ears, tails, etc.?
Or does that mean adding new parts/categories to like scars, beards, etc.? Maybe even body types/builds?
Or is it just adding more face paint and hairstyle options? :B

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sounds like for example, adding a glasses/mask slot that doesnt override your entire hat/helmet. im curious now. O:

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

He never said everyone would be able to point-blank get a house, he said they were going to add a system where everyone can have a chance at obtaining a house fair-and-square.

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But that's how I'm reading it. My statement didn't mean getting a house for free. From what I understand, if I have the gil, I can get one.

Or is this "fair and square" thing still involves luck?

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I'm struggling to find many ways that they will make this fair. My thoughts are 1) new wards will be created as they fill up, letting everyone get a house if they want, and 2) some sort of lottery system where they can register ahead of time.

It's not going to be fair if people still need to contend with server queues or possibly another 3 a.m. PST launch.

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Speculation seems to be leaning towards a lottery system where everyone essentially purchases a raffle ticket and a random winner is drawn who then has x amount of hours to legitimately purchase the house. Basically, remove mass log-ins as an equation. These types of lotteries are apparently quite common in JP. And according to reddit, the JP community is rather content with that solution, hence the speculation.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

But that's how I'm reading it. My statement didn't mean getting a house for free. From what I understand, if I have the gil, I can get one.

Or is this "fair and square" thing still involves luck?

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You're looking at it in a vacuum, you can't ignore the context, when wards were added in 4.1 people were at the mercy of login server issues, whether you got a house or not in 4.1 depended solely on login server issues and house transfer lockdown error.

This lead to Yoshida issuing a public apology and announcing they would add more wards in 4.2, and mentioning they were working on something to prevent the issues that happened in 4.1.

This interview is just talking about that something to prevent those issues, so everyone has the same chance to get a house instead of those who don't get hit by login server issues.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

The Allied races are not what I was referring to with my post. Blizz specifically mentioned body types.

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The new troll clan also has an upright posture, and the upright orcs have also been a model that has existed in the game for a long time as well. Again, nothing new or from scratch, just giving it to the players after a very small tweak. For XIV to do this they would have to go back into a model that currently exists in the game and start a complete overhaul. This includes the Lupin who while we see wearing attire that we have, its obvious everything was modeled specifically in its way. There's no 'It's a Lupin model wearing this', instead we have 'model A Lupin with this look, model B Lupin with this look'.

And you should probably look into these things more rather than propagating the 'catch-all' claims people have latched onto, that were never actually that to begin with. Anytime anyone said that a feature couldn't be done, or added, at this time or in general and hadn't explained it was the limitations of the previous gen console, people just defaulted to it anyway out of ignorance and refusal to accept that something just couldn't be done then and there, or at all. If they say it can't be done right now then it can't, if its just something that can be, just either will take time or work then they'll tell you to look forward to it or that they'll look into it. Pretty cut and dry.

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Originally Posted by xJimmehx

sounds like for example, adding a glasses/mask slot that doesnt override your entire hat/helmet. im curious now. O:

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But those examples would be gear/equipment, not parts. Parts makes it sound like actual parts of character's body (or at least, their face).

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Speculation seems to be leaning towards a lottery system where everyone essentially purchases a raffle ticket and a random winner is drawn who then has x amount of hours to legitimately purchase the house. Basically, remove mass log-ins as an equation. These types of lotteries are apparently quite common in JP. And according to reddit, the JP community is rather content with that solution, hence the speculation.

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I can’t stand anyone who actually suggested a lottery system. That idea is the worst housing idea EVER.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

I can’t stand anyone who actually suggested a lottery system. That idea is the worst housing idea EVER.

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Why? How is a mad rush at 3:00 am with server queues and 90ks any better?

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Originally Posted by Alleo

I am no IT expert but wouldnt the app itself also not just put more stress on the servers? Because people would be able to access some things ingame everywhere?

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Unlike other people characters, other people retainers don't get loaded.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Why? How is a mad rush at 3:00 am with server queues and 90ks any better?

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To be fair they are both pretty terrible.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Why? How is a mad rush at 3:00 am with server queues and 90ks any better?

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Because we're crossing our fingers and praying RNG picks us. Not to mention, unless they lock the raffle to one registration per account, anyone with multiple alts will have better odds. Basically, like James said. Both suck.

They don't even need to add new facial hair options. I think the game would benefit a lot from just having more faces to choose from which would also, in turn, provide a wider variety of NPC faces as well.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

The core of my point is that I think it's very clear to see where one set of game devs are willing to continue improving and adding to aspects of an aging game, while another set of game devs are stuck on "but our servers" (the new "ps3 limitations", it seems).

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You say that as if this game doesn't improve itself or add things, which it objectively does.

Does it add things the community wants, or in the way they want? Not always, but then again the community in Blizzard spends a lot of time asking for things like classic servers and upright orcs for years before getting them, and other frequent requests still get told no.

Personally i would love that races with tails didnt had them clipping all over the clothes. I would be also nice if ALL characters didnt had flat pancakes as butts (dont even want a toogle, just a bit more realistic that the current flat line).

But honestly the tail clipping is annoying as hell. Still remember on 1.0 when clothes all had proper holes for miqote's tails. Now we have the Aura race as well, and despite that, basically no dress has a tail hole and they all magically protude from the cloth/metal/whatever, not counting the rare cases when clothes have the proper tail holes and the hole its MISPLACED with the tail protuding from above or below...

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

Of course they haven't touched the housing system yet, anything planned will be done for 4.2. Wait and see what they're planning before you grab a pitchfork, which many will do if necessary when the time comes.

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They have known about the housing issues for years, now is not the time to say oh well they will look at it...
Editing to add, what i mean is all they are simply doing is adding more wards, using the same housing system they have used for years and i honestly do not think instanced (like so many of us have mentioned) will be a thing.
If you are going to introduce content (and in which we all pay for) except it is limited to select players it does need reworking.

Now yes players want more content like dungeons, Primals, etc.. so that is there focus but housing is also a form of content. Some players enjoy gardening, decorating, etc...

That is all i was getting at

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If we increase more face options in the current customization it would become too real and lose the Final fantasy appeal. If we added more character customization options, the required amount of data to be transferred when characters enter instances would explode and gameplay may consequently be negatively affected.

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Once again they seem to completely misunderstand on what people want. We want more options such as facial tattoos.. beards for the boys.. multiple makeup options for everyone. It is so ridiculous that I can't have blush, eye-shadow and freckles.. why only one? Games from 20yrs ago could pull it off yet 'we don't want it to be to real'? ... ugh...

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Originally Posted by xJimmehx

sounds like for example, adding a glasses/mask slot that doesnt override your entire hat/helmet. im curious now. O:

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But this would be part of equipment, not character creation

Well, the server limitations for this game concern me regarding longevity. They seriously cant add 2 faces per race? It seems a bit absurd.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Why? How is a mad rush at 3:00 am with server queues and 90ks any better?

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It's not. They're equally terrible.

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Originally Posted by Maero

They have known about the housing issues for years, now is not the time to say oh well they will look at it...
Editing to add, what i mean is all they are simply doing is adding more wards, using the same housing system they have used for years and i honestly do not think instanced (like so many of us have mentioned) will be a thing.

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Yeah, they're clearly not interested in actually solving the housing problem. The only real way to do that is to go with instanced housing. It immediately eliminates supply issues AND allows for greater item limits and more controls over customization.

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

Well, the server limitations for this game concern me regarding longevity. They seriously cant add 2 faces per race? It seems a bit absurd.

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Yet they can add more hairstyles. It really is confusing.

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Originally Posted by jameseoakes

To be fair they are both pretty terrible.

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I totally agree, neither is ideal.

My question was more directly pointed at DamianFatale and his quote below on how he can't stand anyone who suggests a lottery system, and that it's the worst idea EVER.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

I can’t stand anyone who actually suggested a lottery system. That idea is the worst housing idea EVER.

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I really should know better than to respond to anything he says, but here we are.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Yet they can add more hairstyles. It really is confusing.

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I mean, I can see why hair is easier to add then faces, faces have multiple parts to them that need to be rigged and animated to emote properly, while hair just need minor texturing and basic fluidity added to it.
Not to say that I think allowing each race to have at least have 6 faces each would put too much of a strain on the system... :B

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

I mean, I can see why hair is easier to add then faces, faces have multiple parts to them that need to be rigged and animated to emote properly, while hair just need minor texturing and basic fluidity added to it.

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That's not what he was talking about, I think. Actual rendering is client side so that's nothing the servers have to worry about. And I think most people agree that what Yoshi talked about wasn't adding more face options, but things like splitting the Au Ra horns into their own option. Adding sliders and categories, in short. Not because it'll be harder to render or anything, that's a client-side concern, but because if you're in a room with 100 other players, instead of X pieces of information the server has to send each of them so that they can render you, now they'll have to send X + 1 because the horns are their own category. And when you have a player run through Kugane or Rhalgr's Reach, that +1 they need to send out per receiving player in the zone starts building up, all the more so if you have more than the one Au Ra player in there.
In that sense it's a bit funny because they could effectively give you every face + horn option in the game baked into the face category, similar to how we have all sorts of hair options that differ from each other only by accessory. The old Y'shtola hair comes to mind where the beads are silver or gold, or the hairstyles with hair-bows. Extra options, same number of categories.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

And I think most people agree that what Yoshi talked about wasn't adding more face options, but things like splitting the Au Ra horns into their own option.

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I don't think most people agree on what Yoshi P was talking about, which was why I asked for a clarification earlier (and still haven't gotten a definitive answer to).
At this point, I think we're all just fill in the blank as we want. >w>

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

Well, the server limitations for this game concern me regarding longevity. They seriously cant add 2 faces per race? It seems a bit absurd.

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Seriously, if they can't add a couple new facial designs or just the ability to mix and match facial features (freckles and eyeliner pls?) without the game imploding, then it's probably time to upgrade.

They're going to need an upgrade for sure. When the next expansion comes it's almost going to be 6 years since ARR and that's a pretty good time for an upgrade.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

They're going to need an upgrade for sure. When the next expansion comes it's almost going to be 6 years since ARR and that's a pretty good time for an upgrade.

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You do realize they got new servers when the datracenter changed right? They didn't move the old servers when they did the move lol. It's likely not server hardware causing the limitations, other than physics limitations on network traffic, but server coding thats the cause of the "limitations and server problems"

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

They seriously cant add 2 faces per race? It seems a bit absurd.

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It was clarified a few pages ago that they can add anything in the currently available options, which includes the faces, face parts and facial features.

They just can't add a new category like the body scars, body hair or body tattoos people also want.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

You do realize they got new servers when the datracenter changed right? They didn't move the old servers when they did the move lol. It's likely not server hardware causing the limitations, other than physics limitations on network traffic, but server coding thats the cause of the "limitations and server problems"

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Well, I didn't say anything about servers.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

Well, I didn't say anything about servers.

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Well anytime anyone mentions the game needs an upgrade due to limitations, they always bring up the servers, so I thought it was implied. I stand corrected.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Well anytime anyone mentions the game needs an upgrade due to limitations, they always bring up the servers, so I thought it was implied. I stand corrected.

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I was vague, but I was implying something about the game's engine and coding, yes. I'm aware about the server upgrades though.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I'm struggling to find many ways that they will make this fair. My thoughts are 1) new wards will be created as they fill up, letting everyone get a house if they want, and 2) some sort of lottery system where they can register ahead of time.

It's not going to be fair if people still need to contend with server queues or possibly another 3 a.m. PST launch.

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And I do kinda question how much fairer a lottery system truly is. Maybe people will not need luck to get on the server on time but instead of that they need one heck of a luck to even get a house in the lottery. Also depending on the way they do this people with lots of gils might have bigger chances to obtain a house. (Like if you can bet on each plot if you have the Gil available) At the same time if you can "buy" your lottery ticket beforehand we will have even more people trying to get their hands on houses since now even those that work or are otherwise not able to play the game can buy a ticket and get a chance to own a house. This may be good for them but at the same time this increases the pool of possible house owners a lot thus decreasing the chances for each person itself more. So in the end if they dont increase the wards by a huge amount of numbers most players will probably still be without a house..especially if they use a system where you need to put money down to even bet on this which will decrease the chance for those that have less Gil..

So I still cant see how such a system would change the housing situation at all.

Also I do kinda question if that means that any old house that open up over the time has such a system too so that you cant just simply buy a house anymore and need to relay on luck even outside the first housing rush..

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Originally Posted by Alleo

good points, sorry to snip

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You're probably right. It would have the potential to heavily favor those FCs/individuals that have hordes of money saved up. At this point, I'm just really curious as to their plans for the next housing release.

In my perfect world, they'd just make new wards available as they fill up. Or maybe just bring on instanced housing as not everyone needs to have that neighborhood feel.

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Patch 4.2 is scheduled to see huge changes for Glamours.

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I want to know more about this.

Can it be a system more like WoW's?

I hope it's a system more like WoW's...
So easy to use, so easy to remember what you have/still need. No need to search through endless retainer inventories.
Feel free to add in gil-sinks anywhere you see necessary, just make it more user-friendly!