Forcefully move people out of Balmung (and other insanely congested worlds)

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

You'll keep hearing it as long as people from Balmung keep making countless threads about their issues.

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It isn't Balmung whining but everyone else because we're unwilling to transfer. The last several threads about queue times, complaints and etc have all be created by people from other servers.

delete balmung.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Pretty sure the person means someone who has been on Balmung for 6 months would be displaced far more likely than someone who has been on the server for 3 years.

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I realized that after I posted, but didn't feel like editing it again. Haha.

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Originally Posted by Lunafreya

delete balmung.

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Delete Lamia

Best thread about balmung so far. I'm serious.

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Originally Posted by Septonyte

Delete Lamia

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Delete this game so no one can complain about anything anymore.
:rolleyes:

Delete OP's character

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Originally Posted by Mikhaill

Delete this game so no one can complain about anything anymore.
:rolleyes:

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Delete this forum so no one can talk about it.

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Originally Posted by Septonyte

Delete this forum so no one can talk about it.

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Finally, a suggestion I can support.

What I think they should do (although it's most likely a long term thing) is any account that's been inactive for a certain amount of time, let's say 3 months or so, should be flagged for automatic transfer so that if and when that player comes back they should get a dialogue when they're logging in to transfer their character to a new server.

I think something like that might lower the population of the server a bit.

Brb ran out of popcorn don't vote to kick yet plz >.>™

Delete Internet.

Did I win?

Delete real world and start again

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Originally Posted by Furiea

Delete Internet.

Did I win?

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No, because this is the internet and NO ONE wins the internet!

GOSH!!! :)

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Originally Posted by Furiea

Delete Internet.

Did I win?

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Delete reality. Now I won.

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Originally Posted by Sylentmana

Delete reality. Now I won.

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I say we delete the multiverse... just to be safe.

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Originally Posted by Septonyte

I say we delete the multiverse... just to be safe.

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I can definitely get behind this ^^^

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Originally Posted by 347SPECTRE

I can definitely get behind this ^^^

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Then we can transfer the surviving universes to a new multiverse for the ironic lulz. ^_^

Put Balmung on its own data center away from the other servers. That way they arent affected by its congestion and problems.

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Originally Posted by Coratanni

Put Balmung on its own data center away from the other servers. That way they arent affected by its congestion and problems.

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This sounds good. Balmung has enough people to fill its own data center anyway. Roughly 26,000 active players I think? Probably way more now that SB launched.

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Originally Posted by Coratanni

Put Balmung on its own data center away from the other servers. That way they arent affected by its congestion and problems.

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You do realize the "congestion problem" is only on us, right? Putting a server on it's own data center wont fix the login queue and will kill anything that is cross-world (aka: data center wide like the duty finder).

Also, why don't we also put Gilgamesh on it's own server? They have queues that are almost as bad.

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Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi

This sounds good. Balmung has enough people to fill its own data center anyway. Roughly 26,000 active players I think? Probably way more now that SB launched.

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Since shortly before SB launched new characters and transfers have been disabled on Balmung. The population can only go down (Furthermore transferring out of Balmung is currently free, comes with a fistful of gold chocobo feathers and no gil transfer limit to encourage people to move).

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Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi

Title ^

People keep complaining so much about the login queues on Balmung yet refuse to transfer. Start forcefully transferring them to a random low pop world SE. Auto log them out and make it happen. Start with all the people who abuse the auto logout workaround.

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Okay. So you are the Person who pays the costs of theyr houses, furniture, other Stuff wich they loose as soon as they get force-transfered. Good to Know SE doesnt have to bother and can just empty your current and future Gilbalance :)

if Balmung gets their own data center, then the Balmung people will get into DF queues faster and everyone else will get into queues longer. sounds like a plan! How much of the Tank population is from Balmung?

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Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO

That's a load of garbage, there's tonnes of open plots on Mateus still (My ward alone in the Goblet has 5 open spaces), and the apartment housing is barely even touched.

On a side note, a lot of us Balmung residents who've swapped server get a tonne of hostility off the 'natives' ("Balmung turds go home" "Stop shitting up our server" etc), which is something else to think about. People seem to want players to move away from Balmung, but nobody wants those players on their server

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This is what I heard from people who transferred there. I do not have an alt there and nor do I want to transfer there (that community is part of the reason as well). I didn't include apartments because they're not the same as a plot. Though if they're mistaken and there really is "a ton" of plots there, then I'm sure more people will transfer just because of the plots, or the fighting chance at the new ward.

But Balmung is a containment server and cross contamination is bad make a Balmung II I guess.

Do people think before posting threads like these or is it just akin to projectile vomiting anything that comes to mind?

Alright I'll humor you OP. Lets say they did start forcibly removing people from Balmung as you want them to. Who gets booted? Random players? Players who haven't logged in since ARR, since a certain patch in HW? You know SE won't do that, hence why they offer the incentives to leave instead. If they started forcing people off the server it would be a nightmare. Since Balmung is huge (and a few other servers just as large) you immediately have a large chunk of the player base that will be angry. You think people being pissed during Early Access was bad? Square won't cause they know it would just cause headaches. All they can do is offer incentives to leave. I only know a few people who have taken it but only because they had little connection to Balmung.

People wanted on Balmung because it was made the unofficial RP server, as is Gilgamesh (so I am told). If SE had tagged other servers to be RP, most likely Balmung wouldn't be so large.

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Originally Posted by Berethos

Not that I wouldn't mind latency like it was before...

But you do realize that while this might solve one issue, it would probably introduce several more?

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Yes actually. It's the more expensive solution, but it's better in the long run, and worth working out all the bugs

No server comes remotely close to Balmung. It's double Gilgamesh which is the next highest. But this is Squares problem for allowing paid transfers for so long. But I'm willing to put up with queues for a few weeks until things calm down unless all the housing and stuff me and my friends have invested in is refunded in full. and a new spot is guaranteed right where we are now, which cant be done.

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Originally Posted by Tyndles

No server comes remotely close to Balmung. It's double Gilgamesh which is the next highest. But this is Squares problem for allowing paid transfers for so long. But I'm willing to put up with queues for a few weeks until things calm down unless all the housing and stuff me and my friends have invested in is refunded in full. and a new spot is guaranteed right where we are now, which cant be done.

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Paid transfers which bypassed the creation traffic check.

Still, they knew what they were getting into.

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Originally Posted by Tyndles

No server comes remotely close to Balmung. It's double Gilgamesh which is the next highest. But this is Squares problem for allowing paid transfers for so long. But I'm willing to put up with queues for a few weeks until things calm down unless all the housing and stuff me and my friends have invested in is refunded in full. and a new spot is guaranteed right where we are now, which cant be done.

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According to the June 2017 FFXIV Census, Balmung is just under 20,000 active people and Gilga is just over 15,000 actives, so no, Balmung is not double the size of Gilgamesh.

https://ffxivcensus.com/

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

According to the June 2017 FFXIV Census, Balmung is just under 20,000 active people and Gilga is just over 15,000 actives, so no, Balmung is not double the size of Gilgamesh.

https://ffxivcensus.com/

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Leviathan is actually just on the cusp of being a congested world if you compare it to some of the JP servers that are considered congested so hope OP is okay potentially being forced off to another server in the future.

Guessing he wouldn't be though

Whelp OP, I have the perfect solution for you.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen..._Leviathan.jpg

The census stats it does not include players not past 3.3 content, that's pretty high stacks to be an adult in FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

I mean, when I hear how close everyone is, seems like EVERYONE would want to move together. FCs, Friends, LSs buddies, but eh. :rolleyes:

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Do you know how hard it is to move entire FCs? Small ones sure! large ones...not so much. The incentive of moving an entire FC is not worth it. Balmung or not. Its a damn a headache. Especially if you have an FC house. Because you need to collect EVERYTHING thats in it.Then go and disassemble your air ships. And IDK...its hard enough having inventory space!So your inventory on top of an FC inventory... Not to mention all of your members would need to demolish their rooms, after collecting all their things. Thats a cluster and half.

And sure you can claim #balmungproblems. But It's for any large FC really or anyone thats had to move large subsets of people.

And then you also have deal with everyone bitching about now instead of having Balmung Refugees...they now have Balmung Deports....

I feel there is a some horrible joke in there were I am supposed to end this with #makebalmunggreatagian.
but i think that would confuse you all as a Balmung person making a Balmung joke! GASP!

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

According to the June 2017 FFXIV Census, Balmung is just under 20,000 active people and Gilga is just over 15,000 actives, so no, Balmung is not double the size of Gilgamesh.

https://ffxivcensus.com/

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That site isn't accurate. Lucky Bancho uses a much better criteria. Keep in mind, these are pre-Stormblood numbers. The fact Balmung had no queues and shot up to the numbers it did suggests a lot of people came back. Another census done just prior to the server closed showed Balmung had an increase of over 1,000 characters too.

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Originally Posted by Abaigeal

Do you know how hard it is to move entire FCs?

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I don't think anybody knows this. They haven't posted what they are going to do for FC moves yet.