Gath Ponders on BRD

Gath suppored the logic of his original post with a comparison to XI's bard. He presents facts from the recent class revisions table in the form of the abilities bard will have.

There's not much for facts in preponderance, which is what the original post was. He was just wondering how bard works, and for some he actually provoke a tiny bit of discussion. (as seen on page 1 of this thread)
Although some people just can't get over his persona, on some level its obnoxious but deal with it, hes another human being and hes entitled to speak how he pleases. Now if I recall your first response to this thread had nothing to do with the OP, but rather to jeer at Gath's persona.

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Originally Posted by Avraym

I'm sorry everyone, not everyone from Lindblum is like Gath.

Despite what he says, his 1 gil is not worth more than yours.

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You threw mud first, Gath just wanted to discuss bard.
To be honest, his gil turned out to be worth a lot more than your one gil.

I like how this game is putting Bard into a position i recognize.

EQOA bards weren't just awesome buffers, they were awesome DDs as well. Infact they were pretty good soloer's as well since they had high Heal over time and mana over time buffs.

Seems like they are going to allow it to be aa DD and buffer that's awesome. Always thought bard was kinda of lame in XI casue all they did was buff.

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Originally Posted by AceofRains

You threw mud first, Gath just wanted to discuss bard.
To be honest, his gil turned out to be worth a lot more than your one gil.

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If mud was thrown first, it would be the big pile of Self Indulgence he conjured.

Seems like Gath cares more about telling others how much better he is than them than talk about BRD.
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• Now, Gath has blessed the forums with a post, and now he will recede his awesome so your brains don't overload.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
  
• Gath does not need to explain his ways.
  
• Gath will have his awesomeness remove you from the premises.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

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Followed by

• If you're embarrassed then maybe you should rethink your life
  
• Gath has a fan club and is highly revered on his server.
  
• My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
  
• Gath senses jealousy in your post.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
  
• My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil...
• and my ;3 is worth more than your ;3.
  
• Gath never changes for a damn fool. Gath will let his fans become offended, but, Gath makes it up to his fans by being the awesome that Gath is.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

Nobody's one gil is worth more than another.

^__^ ^___^

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Originally Posted by Avraym

If mud was thrown first, it would be the big pile of Self Indulgence he conjured.

Seems like Gath cares more about telling others how much better he is than them than talk about BRD.
"

• Now, Gath has blessed the forums with a post, and now he will recede his awesome so your brains don't overload.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
  
• Gath does not need to explain his ways.
  
• Gath will have his awesomeness remove you from the premises.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

"

Followed by

• If you're embarrassed then maybe you should rethink your life
  
• Gath has a fan club and is highly revered on his server.
  
• My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
  
• Gath senses jealousy in your post.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
  
• My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil...
• and my ;3 is worth more than your ;3.
  
• Gath never changes for a damn fool. Gath will let his fans become offended, but, Gath makes it up to his fans by being the awesome that Gath is.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

Nobody's one gil is worth more than another.

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Great we've addressed the fact that he has a very overbearing personality. But you still fail to realize that if your not contributing to the original discussion, your 1 gil is indeed worthless, MY 1 gil is worthless because I didn't address the real subject either. thread derailed? yes.

If you think that peoples 1 gil doesn't hold any value to another your living in a fantasy world. (no pun intended)
Look at govenment.
look at exchange rates.
look anywhere were you as an individual dont have access to discourse.

Gath runs a website directly in contact with the ffxiv community, his gil, is worth more than yours or mine put together. In fact, he opened this very thread for discussion. It's your own fault for being offended by language, which is an ignorant thing in the first place because every has their own way of talking. Interpret it anyway you like, he just started a discussion on bard.

And on that note, I'm done here. Self indulgence is one thing, but a real nuisance is when people complain about shizz that doesn't even matter.

Thread derailed? Yes.

I don't think theres a lot to contribute in a speculation thread however.

Ignorance? No.

"If you think that peoples 1 gil doesn't hold any value to another your living in a fantasy world."

Nobody's 1 gil is worth more than anothers over the internet.

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Originally Posted by Avraym

Thread derailed? Yes.

I don't think theres a lot to contribute in a speculation thread however.

Ignorance? No.

"If you think that peoples 1 gil doesn't hold any value to another your living in a fantasy world."

Nobody's 1 gil is worth more than anothers over the internet.

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Originally Posted by Avraym

If mud was thrown first, it would be the big pile of Self Indulgence he conjured.

Seems like Gath cares more about telling others how much better he is than them than talk about BRD.
"

• Now, Gath has blessed the forums with a post, and now he will recede his awesome so your brains don't overload.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
  
• Gath does not need to explain his ways.
  
• Gath will have his awesomeness remove you from the premises.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

"

Followed by

• If you're embarrassed then maybe you should rethink your life
  
• Gath has a fan club and is highly revered on his server.
  
• My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
  
• Gath senses jealousy in your post.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
  
• My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil...
• and my ;3 is worth more than your ;3.
  
• Gath never changes for a damn fool. Gath will let his fans become offended, but, Gath makes it up to his fans by being the awesome that Gath is.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

Nobody's one gil is worth more than another.

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oh wow you guys are taking gath way more seriously than gath himself would...

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Originally Posted by Gath

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Originally Posted by Avraym

It's pretty obvious who the person is on the high horse in this thread.

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Gath has no understanding to why you are sad that Gath has a horse with legs that are a little longer than yours.

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New signature.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

New signature.

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Funni.

/10char

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

I like how this game is putting Bard into a position i recognize.

EQOA bards weren't just awesome buffers, they were awesome DDs as well. Infact they were pretty good soloer's as well since they had high Heal over time and mana over time buffs.

Seems like they are going to allow it to be aa DD and buffer that's awesome. Always thought bard was kinda of lame in XI casue all they did was buff.

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This is how I was picturing it, but, I don't think BRD will exactly be a high DPS, just enough to take the edge off while they're in between buffs. It has an awesome concept, they just have to deliver it right.


OOC:

This is where I break my character to say that people who actually look at how I type opposed to what the actual topic is about means that all they have time for is exactly what they're claiming me to be. If you wanted discussions that actually portrayed what the OP was about then you would look beyond that fact and make a comprehensive post that was something of value. This is the reason why my 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil. Metaphor maybe? I actually put intellectualism into my posts and if you fail to take the wool from upon your eyes then you're worse than what the white knights actually portray me as. So, in conclusion, those who actually have something against me and look at how I type apart from what the actual topic is makes them a troll and a defect to the FFXIV community. Hypocrites, much?

Now that Gath has given his fans something fun to read, Gath shall do more pondering of the minds, because, Gath has a horse with longer legs than you all.

Gath says that BRD won't be a top DD, but they will have some sort of DMG contribution so they are not just sitting there waiting to buff more.

Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

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Originally Posted by Gath

This is how I was picturing it, but, I don't think BRD will ecaxtly be a high DPS, just enough to take the edge off while they're in between buffs. It has an awesome concept, they just have to deliver it right.


OOC:

This is where I break my character to say that people who actually look at how I type opposed to what the actual topic is about means that all they have time for is exactly what they're claiming me to be. If you wanted discussions that actually portrayed what the OP was about then you would look beyond that fact and make a comprehensive post that was something of value. This is the reason why my 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil. Metaphor maybe? I actually put intellectualism into my posts and if you fail to take the wool from upon your eyes then you're worse than what the white knights actually portray me as. So, in conclusion, those who actually have something against me and look at how I type apart from what the actual topic is makes them a troll and a defect to the FFXIV community. Hypocrites, much?

Now that Gath has given his fans something fun to read, Gath shall do more pondering of the minds, because, Gath has a horse with longer legs than you all.

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Gath win xD

Sorry, I shouldn't fight your battles but I'm whole heartedly in agreement with you.
Gath shouldn't have to break character to explain himself, for meaning is there, they just arn't reading.

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Originally Posted by Gath

Gath says that BRD won't be a top DD, but they will have some sort of DMG contribution so they are not just sitting there waiting to buff more.

Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

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This is where I begin my entrance into the real conversation.
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Agreed, equipping the bard job stone will probably yield stat reduction in terms of attack. If one wishes to still maintain higher dps they probably should just stay as an archer and wait for the next archer job to come out. :/

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Originally Posted by Avraym

Funni.

/10char

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Thank you. By the way, your signature is incorrect. I also have Sentinel at 50. :D

I'll be kind enough to remove your name though.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

Thank you. By the way, your signature is incorrect. I also have Sentinel at 50. :D

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/golfclap

/10char

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Originally Posted by AceofRains

Gath win xD

Sorry, I shouldn't fight your battles but I'm whole heartedly in agreement with you.
Gath shouldn't have to break character to explain himself, for meaning is there, they just arn't reading.



This is where I begin my entrance into the real conversation.
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Agreed, equipping the bard job stone will probably yield stat reduction in terms of attack. If one wishes to still maintain higher dps they probably should just stay as an archer and wait for the next archer job to come out. :/

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Welcome, I was waiting for a few more to enter the conversation.

Well, that's what SE plans on doing, they want classes to still be used and this is their way for doing it. Make the only physical mg ranged DPS a class, and it's job a mediocre ranged dmg, but strong buff type of job that actually can appease to them. In the early 70's BRDs are actually sword wielding singers/instrumentalists that used some sort of ranged attack (if they chose) and this was made up on D&D standards, and a lot of MMO companies follow that standard for their class bases. I believe that we will get more songs. We have our MP and TP regen with a followup of a single buff that covers everybody's main stats. I Think the list is incomplete and will be completed before the implementation of patch 1.21.

My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

I am now waiting for the first FFXIV comedy show, The Roast of Gath Akiro.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

I am now waiting for the first FFXIV comedy show, The Roast of Gath Akiro.

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I am too much for them to handle. Their brains would implode...from my BRD buffs :D

My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

I like how this game is putting Bard into a position i recognize.

EQOA bards weren't just awesome buffers, they were awesome DDs as well. Infact they were pretty good soloer's as well since they had high Heal over time and mana over time buffs.

Seems like they are going to allow it to be aa DD and buffer that's awesome. Always thought bard was kinda of lame in XI casue all they did was buff.

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I dislike and get bored with jobs where I feel like I have to sit back and do barely anything.. so I'm pretty happy about this. Looking forward to DDing on Bard. :D
Edit: Especially since I was hoping for RNG.. I love archery. Add bard songs to that and it just becomes more interesting. Now I really don't care if we get RNG or not. As long as I still have my bow(harp?). XD

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Originally Posted by Avraym

If mud was thrown first, it would be the big pile of Self Indulgence he conjured.

Seems like Gath cares more about telling others how much better he is than them than talk about BRD.
"

• Now, Gath has blessed the forums with a post, and now he will recede his awesome so your brains don't overload.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
  
• Gath does not need to explain his ways.
  
• Gath will have his awesomeness remove you from the premises.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

"

Followed by

• If you're embarrassed then maybe you should rethink your life
  
• Gath has a fan club and is highly revered on his server.
  
• My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
  
• Gath senses jealousy in your post.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
  
• My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil...
• and my ;3 is worth more than your ;3.
  
• Gath never changes for a damn fool. Gath will let his fans become offended, but, Gath makes it up to his fans by being the awesome that Gath is.
  
• Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

Nobody's one gil is worth more than another.

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Don't be hatin'. :x It's all in good fun. It'd just be silly to get offended.
"He said he's better than me!!! Waaaah!"

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Originally Posted by Nabiri

Don't be hatin'. :x It's all in good fun. It'd just be silly to get offended.
"He said he's better than me!!! Waaaah!"

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O hai Gath's new interwebz gf, whom is completely smoking hot and is a super model and has millions in the bank!

People get offended because they can't be as good as me. They are serving up a fresh batch of Jelly Doughnuts.


I agree with you, buffing and trhen doing nothing is no fun at all, it just means you're running back and forth hitting the same spell every 2 minutes without any other contribution you can throw in there. It worked in XI, but that was because it's buffs were powerful. The recast time on it may have been short, but it was awesome. With BRD in XIV being abloe to do some sort of DPS in between buffs show that it will have longer buff timers, which is good because it fills an empty DD role and fills a buffer role on top of it. I am looking forward to it and will be making BRD my main.

My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

I keep reading this thread just for Gath's antics. X3

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Originally Posted by Bowen

I keep reading this thread just for Gath's antics. X3

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Gath talks about BRD in...most of his posts. Gath would appreciate at least 1 short comment about BRD.

Gath also thinks that people are jealous of his hot, rich, and supermodel gf who stacks paper.

My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

I keep reading this thread just for Gath's antics. X3

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Same here.

And since I do not want Gath to cry, though his tears can be sold for millions of gil, I shall contribute to the topic as well.

I am curious to see one thing about songs. In Ragnarok Online, songs were constant effects where the bard kept playing, but could also use it's ranged attacks while the song was in effect.

Are we going to see XI type songs where it's a cast buff, or will we see a consistent AoE as long as the Bard is sining, and if so, can the Bard still attack? I think that would be a nice twist for this game.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

Same here.

And since I do not want Gath to cry, though his tears can be sold for millions of gil, I shall contribute to the topic as well.

I am curious to see one thing about songs. In Ragnarok Online, songs were constant effects where the bard kept playing, but could also use it's ranged attacks while the song was in effect.

Are we going to see XI type songs where it's a cast buff, or will we see a consistent AoE as long as the Bard is sining, and if so, can the Bard still attack? I think that would be a nice twist for this game.

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That actually sounds pretty nifty, but, from what the list says, nothing really implys that. Don't get me wrong, i would love something like this.

My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

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Originally Posted by Gath

Gath talks about BRD in...most of his posts. Gath would appreciate at least 1 short comment about BRD.

Gath also thinks that people are jealous of his hot, rich, and supermodel gf who stacks paper.

My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

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One question: If your a guy (Assuming of course) then why does your sig have a picture of a girl saying yay, im awesome? -3-

Besides that, I have never minded ARC -> BRD. I plan on playing ARC, PGL, and LNC after the patch so don't pester me because they are all low leveled. D:

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Originally Posted by Bowen

One question: If your a guy (Assuming of course) then why does your sig have a picture of a girl saying yay, im awesome? -3-

Besides that, I have never minded ARC -> BRD. I plan on playing ARC, PGL, and LNC after the patch so don't pester me because they are all low leveled. D:

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1. Because Gath thinks that boobs are awesome.
2. You need the support of Gath to lvl through those.
3. You have yet to gain the support of Gath.

Anyhoo, having elemental type of musical attacks would be pretty sweet too :o

My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

I first thought it was so hilarious that to gain Bard, you had to level Archer. It was as contradictory as gaining the job of Ninja by leveling Conjurer but some small traits(ninjutsu/ elemental magic) seem to tie them together but it's not obvious for the casual player to acknowledge so easily.

Yeah, FF-Tactics had something somewhere in unlocking new jobs and stuff but it required prerequisites to unlock new jobs, I'm not so sure you had to level them completely to gain even more.

Anyone? Does anyone know for sure what I'm missing? FF-tactics must be playing a part in this somewhere.

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Originally Posted by PSxpert2011

I first thought it was so hilarious that to gain Bard, you had to level Archer. It was as contradictory as gaining the job of Ninja by leveling Conjurer but some small traits(ninjutsu/ elemental magic) seem to tie them together but it's not obvious for the casual player to acknowledge so easily.

Yeah, FF-Tactics had something somewhere in unlocking new jobs and stuff but it required prerequisites to unlock new jobs, I'm not so sure you had to level them completely to gain even more.

Anyone? Does anyone know for sure what I'm missing? FF-tactics must be playing a part in this somewhere.

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I think it is in some way or another.

My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

I personally dislike the idea of Archer & Bard, but in some ways it does make sense. FFXIV still seems to be about producing hybrid classes.
The mobility that Archer has, is what Bard needs as well. Other classes just don't have the time to run around like a mad man.
It's also a nice excuse to lower the damage Archers do a bit, since it's not just a damage dealer anymore. Which might prevent the Archer only parties at endgame. (There is no doubt in my mind that those come back when their weaponskill damage gets fixed)
Ofcourse when the beast named Archer is tamed, Musketeer will make it's entrance...

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

I personally dislike the idea of Archer & Bard, but in some ways it does make sense. FFXIV still seems to be about producing hybrid classes.
The mobility that Archer has, is what Bard needs as well. Other classes just don't have the time to run around like a mad man.
It's also a nice excuse to lower the damage Archers do a bit, since it's not just a damage dealer anymore. Which might prevent the Archer only parties at endgame. (There is no doubt in my mind that those come back when their weaponskill damage gets fixed)
Ofcourse when the beast named Archer is tamed, Musketeer will make it's entrance...

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Isn't musketeer supposed to be a class? It has its own guild.
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Never said it wasn't a class?

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I wonder if BRD will be singing as well as playing music..

I hope we get some variation in how it sounds too. A different tune for each type of song would be nice.
I think I'll forever have XI's tune stuck in my head. X3
I'm not picky about it but I can imagine the "Please let me toggle BRD music on and off" threads already. :p

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Originally Posted by Nabiri

I wonder if BRD will be singing as well as playing music..

I hope we get some variation in how it sounds too. A different tune for each type of song would be nice.
I think I'll forever have XI's tune stuck in my head. X3
I'm not picky about it but I can imagine the "Please let me toggle BRD music on and off" threads already. :p

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Gath is happy that Gath's hot, supermodel, and paper stacking gf, Nabiri has wonderful ideas.

Adding different tunes and songs would definitely break up the monotonousness that was XI BRD.

Gath's hot supermodel is worth more than your 1 supermodel.

when archer becomes bard, they'll be able to shoot arrows with their instrument strings!

...that would be a sight to see although it would definatley make musician's out of tune with everything if they abused their strings like that ^.^

I think it will be a intresting hybrid... Archer hasnt exactly been a viable option since we have been killing ifrit without the help of archers... So, maybe the barcher will actually have a important role in the ifrit setup, as well with the primal fights moving forward. I have faith in SE, they have yet to disppoint and if they have, they always make up for it somehow someway.. I like this theory, gath. I know you are not like what these people percieve u to be, you brought alot of logic and light to the theory of what barcher has to offer.. Grest post dude! Hope too see u around town, "Evil twin"

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Originally Posted by Dragonlord

I think it will be a intresting hybrid... Archer hasnt exactly been a viable option since we have been killing ifrit without the help of archers... So, maybe the barcher will actually have a important role in the ifrit setup, as well with the primal fights moving forward. I have faith in SE, they have yet to disppoint and if they have, they always make up for it somehow someway.. I like this theory, gath. I know you are not like what these people percieve u to be, you brought alot of logic and light to the theory of what barcher has to offer.. Grest post dude! Hope too see u around town, "Evil twin"

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Ifrit will be irrelevant at that point in time, though. The mechanics of the game will/could have changed slightly to where you don't need 6 LNC and can actually use a mix of classes.

My 1 gil is worth more than ypour 1 gil.

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

when archer becomes bard, they'll be able to shoot arrows with their instrument strings!

...that would be a sight to see although it would definatley make musician's out of tune with everything if they abused their strings like that ^.^

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ohoh you mean something like Kung Fu Hustle?

/clap I want it :D

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Originally Posted by Deli

ohoh you mean something like Kung Fu Hustle?

/clap I want it :D

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That movie made me happy.

My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

I like how this game is putting Bard into a position i recognize.

EQOA bards weren't just awesome buffers, they were awesome DDs as well. Infact they were pretty good soloer's as well since they had high Heal over time and mana over time buffs.

Seems like they are going to allow it to be aa DD and buffer that's awesome. Always thought bard was kinda of lame in XI casue all they did was buff.

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You just gained 10 stories of my opinion of you. EQOA was in my opinion, the best MMO ever. (still have an active account and play)

Don't forget bards in that game could also charm mobs as enchanted and magical music can indeed tame the savage beast. They were a jack of all trades and masters of none.