FFXIV FOR THE NINTENDO SWITCH

FF Explorers ... didn't get all that far in it, but honestly, it seemed any multiplayer would be like WKC was, and not an MMO.

If you wanted to cite a handheld getting a MMO, apparently the Nintendo Switch is to get the DQ MMO. Go figure.

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

This alone pretty much dscredit it from ever being taken seriously, handhelds for these type of games are a joke, Those of the type of things you play while on the toilet or miles away from civilization.

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Said someone who doesn't play anything on the 3DS, I assume.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

FF Explorers ... didn't get all that far in it, but honestly, it seemed any multiplayer would be like WKC was, and not an MMO.

If you wanted to cite a handheld getting a MMO, apparently the Nintendo Switch is to get the DQ MMO. Go figure.

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Explorers is built similarly to Monster Hunter. It uses a similar set-up for multi-player as they do.

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Originally Posted by neorei

please, make this happen................. yoshi plz

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Do you have the console so that you want it to be released on it?

What's the point of asking for it when:

- The console isn't even out yet
- No specs were released
- It's already available on PC, PS4 and PS3

It will only come to the Switch IF the console sales are high enough to take the effort to port it.

But that means, more resources spent on porting the game to a new platform and less resources making the actual game better, remember that.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

FF Explorers ... didn't get all that far in it, but honestly, it seemed any multiplayer would be like WKC was, and not an MMO.

If you wanted to cite a handheld getting a MMO, apparently the Nintendo Switch is to get the DQ MMO. Go figure.

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FF explorers was pretty fun, the only problem was that the online game play was a nightmare. The framerate was so bad even on the 3DS XL.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

My concern is if this thing has a decently sized hard drive.

My WiiU and NEW3DS both had to be outfitted with really large, and separately purchased from Nintendo, storage for my downloaded games. So even if the cartridges of this thing are basically mini solid state drives, a game the size of FFXIV may well be the only game you can download by 4.0's patch cycle.

That said, it really doesn't look like the Switch will be too weak to run the game, especially with the backend upgrades SE is putting into the servers, if it's truely on par with the XBONE. It won't be much different that laptop/or middle to lower level PC users.

I think the chances are good if Dragon Quest X can get an audience.

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Given the size of the device, I can't see it being on par with the Xbox One.

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Originally Posted by OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN

FF explorers was pretty fun, the only problem was that the online game play was a nightmare. The framerate was so bad even on the 3DS XL.

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The NEW3DS was better, but it chugged along pretty miserably.

I actually bought Explorers expecting it to be like a mini FFXI/XIV, but got FF:Monster Hunter edition, instead. I didn't like it all that much since I dislike MH, even if I could rock Geomancer.

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Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

Given the size of the device, I can't see it being on par with the Xbox One.

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The only issue with that is how bleeding edge the hardware is going to be in this thing verses the now years old Xbone. The newer Xbox One that is power boosted (Scorpio, I think?) is actually smaller, so /shrug.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

The only issue with that is how bleeding edge the hardware is going to be in this thing verses the now years old Xbone. The newer Xbox One that is power boosted (Scorpio, I think?) is actually smaller, so /shrug.

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I don't think the Xbox One tech is small enough already to be put into a paper thin tablet. I could be wrong, but I don't think it will be as powerful as the base Xbox One, which means its going to become a case of "Switch limitations" rather than "PS3 limitations". The line up doesn't inspire too much confidence when the most graphically complex game was an updated version of a 2011 game.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

The NEW3DS was better, but it chugged along pretty miserably.

I actually bought Explorers expecting it to be like a mini FFXI/XIV, but got FF:Monster Hunter edition, instead. I didn't like it all that much since I dislike MH, even if I could rock Geomancer.

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Haha unfortunately no, explorers was in a way made from the old crystal chronicles series :P, so it kind of has that monster hunter/fantasy life kind of feel, but it is quite you should embrace it!

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Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

I don't think the Xbox One tech is small enough already to be put into a paper thin tablet. I could be wrong, but I don't think it will be as powerful as the base Xbox One, which means its going to become a case of "Switch limitations" rather than "PS3 limitations". The line up doesn't inspire too much confidence when the most graphically complex game was an updated version of a 2011 game.

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You mean Skyrim?

What about Mario Kart 8, Breath of the Wild, or Splatoon? I'm worried you're equating busier textures with better graphics, which just isn't Nintendo's style. They put more stock into physics, lighting, draw distance, and consistent frame rates.

So, we can be sure that the Switch is at least as powerful as the Wii U.

The Skyrim reveal was more of an encouragement of their being 3rd party support, the bane of the Wii U, verses graphical prowess.

Never gonna happen

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

Said someone who doesn't play anything on the 3DS, I assume.

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I did play the 3ds, which is why i don't like them, i do not like handhelds, sorry if that offended you. i like to play on actual, real consoles. and yes, they are usually only good for wasting time, not the type of time wasting when you play games but literal there is nothing else, and playing this handheld is better then staring at the ground type. cause that was the only time i played them.

Trust me, if handhelds started getting serious and really popular games, gaming won't last much longer.

But my hidden point stands, this will never happen, because SE knows better.

I wasn't able to find a post with the devs weighing in on this, but I believe Yoshi-p got this question in the FanFest "Please Look Forward To It" Q&A session and he replied that they wanted to enable as many players as possible to play FFXIV, and that this could include Xbox One and potentially NX (now Nintendo Switch) as well (minimum hardware requirements permitting, presumably - which doesn't look great if it's a Tegra/tablet-type system, and we don't know the DRAM size which may be another critical issue.)

Based on this answer, and given that Dragon Quest X is going to be on the Switch, and that FFXIV can run on the PS Vita via PS4 Remote Play, I would speculate that Switch might not be completely outside the range of possibilities, but Xbox One might be more likely (it's also already in the PS4 performance ballpark and is getting a hardware upgrade.)

However, at they same time they also announced that 4.0 will not only discontinue PS3 support but will also raise the minimum system requirements for PC (and Mac, presumably), so we were advised to please upgrade our hardware over the next few (8?) months (notably to 64-bit processors) so we'll be ready to run Stormblood as soon as it drops. I think he also said that Core 2 Duo and 32-bit intel CPUs haven't really been sold for years, so any modern CPU should be 64-bit and much more powerful than machines from ~2009 or earlier (though I note I've seen some pretty underpowered laptops/netbooks/surface tablets... those might not be so good for Stormblood presumably.)

I don't take offense to it at all. I just think you are missing out on great games by writing off the hardware. It's the same as the PC master race argument towards consoles with the names changed.

But, I do understand it comes down to personal taste and comfort. I just can't say FFXIV would never function on a handheld specifically, since there are far too many variables involved with ports.

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Originally Posted by Avenger

Given that Dragon Quest X is going to be on the Switch... and that FFXIV can run on the PS Vita via PS4 Remote Play, it doesn't seem outside the range of possibilities.

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It not runing on PS Vita, it transmit video to PS Vita or smartphones
so basically you need a good connection internet or 4g to Remote Play

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

I don't take offense to it at all. I just think you are missing out on great games by writing off the hardware. It's the same as the PC master race argument towards consoles with the names changed.

But, I do understand it comes down to personal taste and comfort.

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It may not be the best experience in the world, but I love it that FFXIV works on the PS Vita with PS4 Remote Play. Presumably Stormblood will continue to work on the Vita/Remote Play as well. Admittedly the game is still running on the PS4, but the handheld form factor does work. Strangely enough, the Vita actually has double the RAM of the PS3, and it even supports PSN Party Chat...

One nice thing they added to FFXIV is that you can have multiple GUI setting sets, so you can make one that works well on the Vita without messing with your main PS4 settings.

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

real consoles.

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Hate to break it to you but handhelds are real consoles and have games with much much much much MUCH better writing and stories than your typical hollywood blockbuster crap that comes out every 6 months. Limitation breeds creativity, remember that.

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

Trust me, if handhelds started getting serious and really popular games, gaming won't last much longer.

But my hidden point stands, this will never happen, because SE knows better.

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Mobile devices of old paved the way for the multi-billion dollar industry it is now... I think it's around 500 billion. Gameboys, TI Calculators, PalmPilots, Tiger Electronics, etc were all devices that gained popularity and moved companies into the tech we use. Gaming will always last. The only reason that it hasn't hit mobile exclusively is the fact that handheld devices aren't capable of providing the same power that our consoles/computers can for any given era, and probably never will. I mean, keep in mind where we are today and where we were just 20-30 years ago.

Do you really think we'd have thought performance capabilities of smartphones, PS Vita, and the 3DS would be where we are technologically? The last two are aged tech! Hell, the idea of playing top of the line console games in the past, like SNES games, on mobile devices seemed too grand of an idea to do. I get why you don't care for handhelds, but to think gaming wouldn't last just because of a theoretical shift to handhelds would happen is ignorant. Part of the reason traditional consoles even exist still is because of the niche appeal (and cost effective market) behind it. It's more fun to play certain games on consoles rather than PC (for me) because of the perception we have of it. If it weren't, we'd be using laptops for all mobile gaming that is too intense for phones.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

I don't take offense to it at all. I just think you are missing out on great games by writing off the hardware. It's the same as the PC master race argument towards consoles with the names changed.

But, I do understand it comes down to personal taste and comfort. I just can't say FFXIV would never function on a handheld specifically, since there are far too many variables involved with ports.

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I think most people are afraid that if the Switch was supported, the limitations of the hardware would hold the rest of the game back, I hope I'm proved wrong and it ends up being as powerful as the Xbox One though. I have nothing against the Switch itself, its a cool nifty console, which will hopefully be better supported than the Wii U.

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

I did play the 3ds, which is why i don't like them, i do not like handhelds, sorry if that offended you. i like to play on actual, real consoles. and yes, they are usually only good for wasting time

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Yet right now in the current gaming market, mobile games yield the highest sales. Go look at summoner's war, brave frontier. Why do you think companies like SE,Nintendo,Sega are venture into the mobile market now? Almost all the mobile games are there have average story, Poor multiplayer(you're always against a AI) and gacha intensive. But still people still play them.

The 3DS actually have good games, but the idea that it could play ffxiv isn't a far fetched idea, this game is more than 3 years old and within the past years the capabilities of gaming devices are rapidly advancing. While nintendo isn't known for having specs on par with Sony consoles the nintendo switch has Nvidia's technology, I wouldn't say it is entirely impossible, Skyrim was in the trailer if you hadn't notice. I mean if it can be portable.. why not? I could always just login on the go if something requires my attention.

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Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

I think most people are afraid that if the Switch was supported, the limitations of the hardware would hold the rest of the game back, I hope I'm proved wrong and it ends up being as powerful as the Xbox One though. I have nothing against the Switch itself, its a cool nifty console, which will hopefully be better supported than the Wii U.

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Which is a valid fear, and we still don't know enough about the Switch to answer that.

Oh shit.. FFXIV on the go. Yes please!

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Originally Posted by kaptainpancake69

Switch is 1 Nvidia teraflops, PS4 is 1.8 teraflops. It's weaker, it's a handheld. It also has less RAM, and it's MUCH slower.

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Your points about the RAM and the speed are alright but lol at judging the power of a machine with teraflops except marketing.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ana.../1100-6444670/

If anything I'm just hoping this isn't a Nvidia shield 2.0.

Unlikely it might come out for Nintendo Switch, though I do love the idea of a Final Fantasy game coming out for it.

If the Switch is powerful enough I don't there would be an issue tbh. Let's wait and see

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Originally Posted by alimdia

It's basically a portable ps3 so, hope the don't support it.

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Mobile gaming has come a long way to be more powerful then the ps3 already. Of course we don't know anything other then, switch is using a more modern Tegra chip yet.

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Originally Posted by Krazymagic

No. It is the size of a tablet, so there is likely no active cooling solution. That fact alone gives strong hints to the type of power you're looking at. It will have to be a very low voltage processing core, in order to give it a decent battery life but more importantly to keep heat down.

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I would assume, they have two modes for games with the Switch. One is the handheld mode, which provides games with lower graphics and - much - lower resolution and the tv mode runs games in 720p and 1080. To ensure the necessary power is available the clock speed will be increased when in the docking station, in my opinion, since the console doesn't have to deal with battery life in this mode.

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Originally Posted by FearTheOldBlood

Hate to break it to you but handhelds are real consoles and have games with much much much much MUCH better writing and stories than your typical hollywood blockbuster crap that comes out every 6 months. Limitation breeds creativity, remember that.

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We all love opinions, and you're entitled to yours, and here is mine: They are no where near Better in story, Not even close, that is assuming you can actually find many good games on those peices of crap. i hate to break it to YOU but they are not real consoles, they are as much a real console as a zircon is a real diamond.

Not to mention that fact you are comparing handheld stories to only this game kind of tells me that you don't actually play any console games much to know why your statment is pretty laughable.

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Originally Posted by OMGAFLYINGPENGUIN

Yet right now in the current gaming market, mobile games yield the highest sales. Go look at summoner's war, brave frontier. Why do you think companies like SE,Nintendo,Sega are venture into the mobile market now? Almost all the mobile games are there have average story, Poor multiplayer(you're always against a AI) and gacha intensive. But still people still play them.

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That is mainly because people are on the go, which i already stated is why you play handhelds many people even consider koonami dead because they mistakely think mobile gaming is the future.

Yes, people play them, they are portable games. but compared to what will actually work in the end, they will fail. what i mean by that is, as this topic is aimed towards, you will never see a game like this, or cod or dark souls, etc, popular games like those, ever on handhelds, most games require multiplayer to stay alive long, and since handhelds lack those, they won't get very far in the long run, you'll just deal with C rate games and other things to keep people on their way to work, school and traveling busy.

Brace yourselves "Nintendo Switch limitations" are coming :rolleyes:

No thx. Dont want another console holding the game back.

i know this isn't FFXIV related but how about this game

http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-cont...I-Mobile-2.jpg

the FFXI cellphone remake.

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

This alone pretty much dscredit it from ever being taken seriously, handhelds for these type of games are a joke, Those of the type of things you play while on the toilet or miles away from civilization.

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But Dragon Quest X is confirmed to be coming to the Switch.... Last I recall that is an MMO. Not saying FFXIV is appropriate for Nintendo Switch, but the argument on online games not being on mobile. Actually, DQ10 is even on the 3DS.

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Originally Posted by neorei

i know this isn't FFXIV related but how about this game

http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-cont...I-Mobile-2.jpg

the FFXI cellphone remake.

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That would certainly be neat to show up on Switch. Not sure how expansive Nexon is however.

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Originally Posted by Avenger

FFXIV can run on the PS Vita via PS4 Remote Play, I would speculate that Switch might not be completely outside the range of possibilities, but Xbox One might be more likely (it's also already in the PS4 performance ballpark and is getting a hardware upgrade.)

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Vita runs no game code when using Remote Play, it's just a controller and remote screen, FFXIV doesn't run on the hand held at all.

The new Xbox One, the one meant to be more powerful, will not ship for another 12-13 months.

Guys, Switch will probably never "hold down" anything. PS3 problem was RAM, and Switch is at least 8 times better in that aspect.

Hmm.. Let's cut the Switch some slack..

The Switch doesn't have...
1) A optical drive.
2) A hard drive.
3) 3 year old components.

I mean, just those two things will reduce the size by a lot.


The specs are a concern, though, especially when we're finally getting rid of the PS3 and SE and Nintendo are both Japanese based so I don't think it's unlikely that SE knew about the Switch and even considered FFXIV themselves.





To be honest. I would rather support the Switch even if it meant being "limited" by another console again.

Why?

Because, genius, PS3 and PS4 are alongside each other in terms of community but with the Switch we would be welcoming the Nintendo community. I'm all about a larger community.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

Guys, Switch will probably never "hold down" anything. PS3 problem was RAM, and Switch is at least 8 times better in that aspect.

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Ya.. The PS3 had 512mb of RAM....

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Originally Posted by Morzy

Ya.. The PS3 had 512mb of RAM....

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Oh sorry, but still 8 times better if the rumors are correct, because Switch will have 4GB.

I don't think it would be limiting, maybe graphically - but Nintendo fans doesn't really care about graphics and would love some Final Fantasy on their consoles, especially a good one like this.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

Oh sorry, but still 8 times better if the rumors are correct, because Switch will have 4GB.

I don't think it would be limiting, maybe graphically - but Nintendo fans doesn't really care about graphics and would love some Final Fantasy on their consoles, especially a good one like this.

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We don't know a lot about the Switch to say anything concrete. That said, even if it has more RAM, there is no evidence that the OS itself uses less/more RAM. Then, we also don't know that if RAM is not a problem that something else will be the new bottleneck (GPU/CPU etc.)

I think the most important thing to consider is that the dev team would need to develop the game for 3 OS's vs just two, meaning we'd get less content for the same amount of work/time given by the devs. Personally, I'd rather them not add Nintendo Switch support and give us more stuff, than waste time/resources on developing a Switch client at the expense of content.

well this is confirm for the switch

dragon quest x raid

so why can't FFXIV be on it also?

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Originally Posted by Velhart

But Dragon Quest X is confirmed to be coming to the Switch.... Last I recall that is an MMO. Not saying FFXIV is appropriate for Nintendo Switch, but the argument on online games not being on mobile. Actually, DQ10 is even on the 3DS.

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Aren't you able to get switch to display on a TV? switch might actually be a handheld worth getting, but we'll have to wait and see, also, how popular is dragon quest again?