your healer may hate you.

You can banter back and forth all day about situations and scenarios, the end result is just someone doing something incorrect which is completely subjective to YOU. And it might not be intentional; Rather a poorer understanding of what's best at that current point in time.If we're talking strictly randoms in a DF I don't know what you'd exactly expect from people you well.... don't fking know... It's never going to be a completely synergistic group. You're trusting a group of strangers to know their class, how to play it and now you're forcing your ideals upon them and if they don't comply they're inept? It's not as simple as that.

When you only have 30 or so minutes to gauge a person with a simple "Hello" "Goodbye" and everything that comes in between. Which is quite honestly nothing to go on. You have to make a general assessment of people through their play style and gear in maybe the first 10 Minutes of game time. GOOD LUCK. Remember the fact that you yourself are also one of those "Randoms".

I've been with DF tanks who overpull, underpull, perfectly pull, can't tank, can't stance dance, poorly position, Can't DPS, Can't stop tunnel visioning, Are scared to engage and pull, Who are kind, mean, neutral, funny, under-geared, over-geared
I'm not alone in this statement. We're probably all in the same boat here.

My point is, Adapt to the situation as best you can. You can only do as much as you can. Your primary function as a healer is to keep your tank and group alive, Everything else is secondary. The group might go faster and you might have more fun if your tanks pulled the proper amount of monsters to allow you to toss out some damage as a healer. It's true. But If you're going to complain about it, take your friends with you. It's usually faster and always a lot more enjoyable.

Have no friends? There are other avenues to take, you can play a different class, Party finder with ppl on your server to maybe meet your dream tank. Maybe you'll ride off into the sunset together killing all the Hresvelgrs you can stuff in your mouth. Idfk. >_>;

If you want real healer hate, just remember playing a warrior at 2.0 launch. You guys just have stern looks these days. Young whippersnappers know nothing about actual hate.

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Originally Posted by EudoxiaB

just because you see a well geared, experienced tank grabbing ALL the trash in a dungeon and dragging it to one spot so the dps can aoe, that doesn't mean your tissue paper wearing self can do the same thing. Benediction is NOT meant to be used on trash pulls. if your healer has 10%mp after a trash pull, you're pulling too big. period. and don't take off and do it again when the healer is under 50% mp. you may feel like a god, but you're just a goof with inferior gear. stop it.

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*shrug* I still seem to get 2 or 3 player comm's each run. So they must not hate it THAT much. ;^)

I think you're trying to trick me. Mostly every time I pull the healer burns the adds/boss with DPS and heals me 10% of the time. I feel like I'm running dungeons with 3 DPS players.

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Originally Posted by EudoxiaB

just because you see a well geared, experienced tank grabbing ALL the trash in a dungeon and dragging it to one spot so the dps can aoe, that doesn't mean your tissue paper wearing self can do the same thing. Benediction is NOT meant to be used on trash pulls. if your healer has 10%mp after a trash pull, you're pulling too big. period. and don't take off and do it again when the healer is under 50% mp. you may feel like a god, but you're just a goof with inferior gear. stop it.

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This could also mean the DPS was piss poor too. If you are going <10% mana then DPS is sloooooow.

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Originally Posted by EudoxiaB

just because you see a well geared, experienced tank grabbing ALL the trash in a dungeon and dragging it to one spot so the dps can aoe, that doesn't mean your tissue paper wearing self can do the same thing. Benediction is NOT meant to be used on trash pulls. if your healer has 10%mp after a trash pull, you're pulling too big. period. and don't take off and do it again when the healer is under 50% mp. you may feel like a god, but you're just a goof with inferior gear. stop it.

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i have started tanking a short while ago. and yeah, i was not doing big pulls because i was new and wanted to start slow. but you know what? the group forces you to do big pulls. all say a tank who can't handle it should make small pulls, but in the dungeon the DDs and healer will ask you to pull more - when they are friendly - most of the time they just go ahead and pull more by themself. one time they just were going to the next group and letting me die xD
it's not up to the tank alone to make big pulls.

and - as a DRK - i had many situations where i was pulling a group, the WHM was stunlocking all of them and then rushing to the next group. and I was the one who was out of mana...

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I run into that problem quite often in anything 50 and above. It was a very useful tactic pre-HW with the original tanks. But it's clear that SE didnt consider the synergy between blood price and the healer stun lock. And I feel weird about asking them to stop because it helps mitigation.