Void Ark Gear......wtf

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Originally Posted by Colorful

(who thought it would be a good idea to put on shredded clothes to begin with?).

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Probably the same people who make people post this meme in response

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...52/918/68a.jpg

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Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss

I love to be a little into my character, hence my name muhahahaha

*as per our chances of being a real bad guy, Yoshi stated that we will always be the Warrior of light. >.<

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Hold it right there! We may be actually be impostors! Everyone knows that villains who challenge righteousness and disturb the world's order always dress in black!

Im not really a fan of the styles but they do thematically fit a void haunted ghostship originally created by Black Mages. That would also explain the Black. Cause you know, Black Mages.

Regardless of the gear, people will run the raid anyway cause its going to drop upgrade materials for Eso gear.

Eh...I like them.

all of it looks stupid to me...if it's not higher than 200 i'm not going to bother either.

I don't like them, but it's not because of bad design, but because I dislike everything with rags and belts. The Demon Set, for example, is the UGLIEST of the whole game for me.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

The Demon Set, for example, is the UGLIEST of the whole game for me.

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http://timscogitorium.com/tinblog/wp...ou_Didn__t.jpg

Just be glad you don't look like this BS!!!

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/KKHz-32x0kE/maxresdefault.jpg

The DRG/Tank Design... Seems just lazy. :/

Like, the MNK/NIN reskins were always reasonable to me. But... DRG's not a tank. XD They're not the same armor class (Chain vs. plate) so this is dissapointing to me.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

The Demon Set, for example, is the UGLIEST of the whole game for me.

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B-But my Ninja looks so cute. QwQ

http://i.imgur.com/k6zyJvs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xTNZSlf.jpg

TELL ME I'M PRETTY!

I'm really disappointed too. I thought SE could have come up with something more creative.

http://puu.sh/kLLxs/f461ca6554.png

You can tell this is healing robe because it's white.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

http://puu.sh/kLLxs/f461ca6554.png

You can tell this is healing robe because it's white.

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It's weird how we Ninjas get green, brown, red, white, etc. but healers are always stuck with white.

To be fair "ninjas always wear black" is a myth of well...actual ninjas


also to be fair these ninjas are clearly based on fictional ninjas but....anyway

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

To be fair "ninjas always wear black" is a myth of well...actual ninjas


also to be fair these ninjas are clearly based on fictional ninjas but....anyway

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I heard Yoshida made the team read a chapter of Naruto before working on the Ninja class, and that's plain as day with how they run, their abilities, etc.

I cant believe everything is getting agry with this new gears. I really like them, tehy are different from the ones of the world of darkness.

I see now reason why to hate this new gears are all lol

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Originally Posted by Belhi

The raid is going to drop upgrade materials for Eso gear.

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Most likely not immediately, see also Syrcus Tower. It was a good amount of time after the raid's release before upgrade items were made available.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

But... DRG's not a tank.

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Gotta hold that floor aggro, bro.

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Originally Posted by Chomin

This should be the dragoon set and the tank set

http://oi57.tinypic.com/2d97o00.jpg

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Minus the silly looking Discount Loki Helmet that armor looms awesome. Of course I can only speculate on what the male varient looks like. Rather irksome that they aren't showing both gender moddles.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Minus the silly looking Discount Loki Helmet that armor looms awesome. Of course I can only speculate on what the male varient looks like. Rather irksome that they aren't showing both gender moddles.

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Chances are exceedingly high that it's going to look much the same. Seems to me the only armor that's going to have a difference between the genders is the caster armor, getting much the same treatment as the Scylla body.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Minus the silly looking Discount Loki Helmet that armor looms awesome. Of course I can only speculate on what the male varient looks like. Rather irksome that they aren't showing both gender moddles.

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I hope they look exactly the same. I love the tank set especially the robed dress like part of it.

Black >>>>> that fugly grey Alex stuff > half of the hideous Eso gear.

I just like how the healer lala is standing in the pic with that face like "...eh? Am I really wearing this?"

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Originally Posted by Colorful

As opposed to the World of Darkness sets which are for the most part, boring?

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I liked the WoD sets except for the NIN/MNK one (as usual--I'm almost never happy with them). I glamoured the healer robe for quite some time because it's one of the few slim robes.

I do think the WoD sets did a nice job of being thematic without being too focused on a narrow color palette, like these new sets are. But my biggest gripe with the new sets isn't so much color as it is the general blandness of the NIN/MNK and BRD/MCH sets. The caster/healer and tank sets have some interesting accents and the like in terms of shape, but those other three are just far too plain (and they don't really seem all that fitting for PGL and NIN either, imo).

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Originally Posted by Calypsx

I like how it looks...

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I like them, too.

Especially the DOM sets. Okay, maybe I'm not too fond of the hats, but yeah. There are many pretty pieces to glam so I don't understand why there's hate. : o

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

The DRG/Tank Design... Seems just lazy. :/

Like, the MNK/NIN reskins were always reasonable to me. But... DRG's not a tank. XD They're not the same armor class (Chain vs. plate) so this is dissapointing to me.

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just an example:

Tortoiseshell Scale Mail

Requires: GLA MRD LNC PLD WAR DRG DRK

Also, the body of the Ark set don't look very metalic ^^

I'm so excited about the Void Ark gear! Loooving the style on that caster top and boots - and no RED to clash horribly with my character's skintone!

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Originally Posted by Felis

just an example:

Tortoiseshell Scale Mail

Requires: GLA MRD LNC PLD WAR DRG DRK

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Dragoon is in a heavier armor class (Chain) than the other DPS (MNK/NIN/BRD = Leather, SMN/BLM = Cloth)

For example:
Bronze Cuirass
Level 15
GLD, MRD, PLD, WAR, DRK <- No Dragoon/Lancer here due to it being 'Plate' armor.

For further example, take a look at the jobs that can use leather-based armors

Plundered Jacket
Level 17
Disciples of War (NIN/MNK/DRG/BRD/MCH/WAR/DRK/PLD) <- [b]there are no CLoth users in this catagory, no casters.

By your logic, all of the "Disciple of War" classes should look the same, which is a horrible logic.

The gear should be (And has always been):

[Plate] : Tanks
[Chain] : DRG (And any new jobs they release)
[Leather - Ranged] : BRD/MCH
[Leather - Melee] : MNK/NIN

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom

The other bonus is my retainers will get the 190 alex gear so they can bring back more Malm Kelp.

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Hey now, don't forget the Vongola Clams.

uhm.. yeah they are really ugly and looks like unfinished and rushed design :x

Looks like some1 homeless puts his damaged clothes in Ark Void chests and took the real good looking ones away from us.

They look like recycled WoD gear.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Plate] : Tanks
[Chain] : DRG (And any new jobs they release)
[Leather - Ranged] : BRD/MCH
[Leather - Melee] : MNK/NIN

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You make it too simple

Ninjas have a chainmale (the AF), DRG can wear some Cuiras which is plate, tanks can wear chain and the other melee can also wear gears an armorer have crafted. And you forgot [Scale].

Not the material decide it, what is written in the info text decide it.

And there are also some healer body that is leather:
http://xivdb.com/?item/8513/Serpent-Elite%27s-Robe
http://xivdb.com/?item/11166/Woad-Skydruid%27s-Fur

It's kind of starting to look too much the same as other offerings. As a WHM, do I really need another robe where the belt is over here as opposed to over there? Hopefully it least can be dyed. Notice how the WHM robe is the only white one? It's not like I need another white robe, either.

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Originally Posted by AeraLure

It's kind of starting to look too much the same as other offerings. As a WHM, do I really need another robe where the belt is over here as opposed to over there? Hopefully it least can be dyed. Notice how the WHM robe is the only white one? It's not like I need another white robe, either.

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Yeah I'm a bit disappointed that it's just a white version of the caster gear again. Why is it the only white set? I get it, I'm a white mage, but that doesn't mean all of my gear has to be white too. :/

It just doesn't fit with the look of the rest of the sets.

I do agree they are similar but they are all from the same designer. I mean surely we all like particular brands of clothes and stick with a brand (on occasion not forever).

But that aside, each set has a "theme" of some sort, like well "Dragons".... or maybe "Kabuki" or like

Well, you know this time it's got a dash of H.R. Giger so I'm going to guess the theme this time could be:
https://manicgeekydreamgirl.files.wo...uy-728x637.jpg

(I am looking forward to it!)

Most of those sets are looking really boring. Don't like them and reminds me what we currently have with slight differences.

Item level requirement should have been 185. 190 at most.


Sigh just hope its not face role content in still mad at Alexander normal and why is Alexander normal weekly lock still?

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Originally Posted by Felis

You make it too simple

Ninjas have a chainmale (the AF), DRG can wear some Cuiras which is plate, tanks can wear chain and the other melee can also wear gears an armorer have crafted. And you forgot [Scale].

Not the material decide it, what is written in the info text decide it.

And there are also some healer body that is leather:
http://xivdb.com/?item/8513/Serpent-Elite%27s-Robe
http://xivdb.com/?item/11166/Woad-Skydruid%27s-Fur

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You're attempting to use oddly specific details in an effort to undermind an arguement. Alright, challenge accepted.

(Note: Some numbers may be a little off as it's a quick check by literally scrolling down and counting in the head... which can sometimes get a little bit mussed as you go when you're also checking to identify the armor type)

A search of healer body pieces 1-50 yielded:
Weaver: 70
Leatherworker: 4
ARM/BSM: 0


A search of Pugilist body pieces 1-50 yielded:
Weaver: 60~
Leatherworker: 20~

a search of Dragoon body pieces 1-50 yielded:
Weaver: 60~
Leatherworker: 16~
Armorer: 20~

a search of Warrior body pieces 1-50 yielded:
Armorer: 35~



It doesn't take a genius to infer that the armor class of each one tends to be quite different, with "Tank" being the top-tier armor class (and likewise having access to the most pieces of armor types), Dragoon being just under them, then Monk/Ninja being a step below that, with Healers at the bottom of the 'armor totem pole.'

Now, yes - I will not deny you that there are, indeed, outliers in any scenario. However, as stated in my original post:

Dragoons are not Tanks. The design of the Dragoon gear is extremely lazy - it was literally the Tank gear with a skirt taken off (or, vice-versa: The tank gear was the Dragoon gear with a skirt added on.) and doesn't match the 'theme' of the way the armor is differentiated between classes.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

Item level requirement should have been 185. 190 at most.

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probabaly because you can only reach an ilvl over 180 with weekly locked gear. imagine you just hit lvl 60, there is this new content and you can't reach the ilvl because of weekly lockout.

"hm, shall i buy the i200 weapon and wait another two weeks or some stuff for the right side so i have the ilvl?"

and then second classes wich don't have weekly locked gear.

i think ilvl 175 was ja good decision from square.