Live Letter from the Producer - Discussion Thread

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...d/page2http://
I'm guessing minions from merch. or Mogstation will not give you any extreme advantage.

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I'm hoping that you're right, but guesses have been wrong before (Housing says "Hi!"). Also, the line "it's not like you won't be able to win" may just mean "you have a *chance* of winning, but be prepared to have your ass handed to you on a silver platter on a regular basis if your lineup isn't juuuuuust right". See also: Pokémon.

Forgive me for being pessimistic, but I've seen so many things I've looked forward to take a sideways slide at the last second that I cannot help but be skeptical. "Fool me once..."

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Will they finally be adding contested zones that we can fight others for?

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Frontlines would say hello, but it's too busy being deserted. FFXIV just doesn't seem to attract much of a PvP audience.

The relics was confirmed for 3.1??

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Frontlines would say hello, but it's too busy being deserted. FFXIV just doesn't seem to attract much of a PvP audience.

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PvPvE

You don't fight other players directly. You fight for kills and fight through a respawning living zone to kill bosses. The rewards are better though.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

PvPvE

You don't fight other players directly. You fight for kills and fight through a respawning living zone to kill bosses. The rewards are better though.

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I'm just not sure that kind of content will be inclusive enough, it sounds a liitle to close to something that a small group ofhighly geared players could dominate.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

I'm just not sure that kind of content will be inclusive enough, it sounds a liitle to close to something that a small group of highly geared players could dominate.

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Not really if a zone is big enough. If the zone is big enough there is no way a group can go through everything if another group is closer. Gear also does not matter much in FFXIV.

Also, if the players do that they deserve the loot. The other players deserve nothing. Its a contested zone. You fight other players for content.

Contested Content is fun and actually really popular. Just not something put into games these days.

However, the entire point of contested dungeons is its high risk high reward. If you try to plow through it fast you could wipe or get killed leaving another group closer to you.

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Originally Posted by Nires

The relics was confirmed for 3.1??

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yes, they were

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Contested Content is fun and actually really popular. Just not something put into games these days.

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I suspect that is because games are designed to be as inclusive as possible these days.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

I suspect that is because games are designed to be as inclusive as possible these days.

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Yes, but there is already inclusive content in the game. The new raids. This content would be fun and a nice change of pace. Contested Dungeons are VERY different from normal ones.

Its not very friendly. However its not meant for the weak.

Contested Content if its done right usually survives a lot longer then average dungeons.

Other parties mean the content is more dynamic, which means its less boring.

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Originally Posted by Avenger

omg for real!! Wish that link had been posted at the top of this discussion!! Twitch "stream" never showed anything at all for me on multiple machines, and there was no gdoc link on the page either.

To make it clear: there was no video on the twitch stream at all, just a black screen and a spinning indicator.
Tried on multiple machines, absolutely nothing.
Also there was no link posted to the gdoc.
Until now - thanks Kuroyasha!

[Edit 1: Checked twitch stream again - there's a "watch now" button which does absolutely nothing when you press it. I'm kind of baffled by this, but the gdoc link works fine.

Edit 2: The stream miraculously started playing now that the letter is over. Go figure, haha! :p ]

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The link wasn't posted at the top of the discussion (I'll edit it in now) because the person typing it out - well known XIV streamer & YouTuber Mister Happy - opted to keep it to himself until he was done, presumably to keep people watching his Twitch (as is his right considering he's the one doing the hard work for free).

No idea why your Twitch wasn't working though - nobody had issues in my FC, and there were thousands watching. Either way, hope you enjoy the read now it's available! :)

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Yes, but there is already inclusive content in the game. The new raids. This content would be fun and a nice change of pace. Contested Dungeons are VERY different from normal ones.

Its not very friendly.

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That last sentence may be an obstacle to this type of content. FFXIV almost litterally goes out of it's way to encourage teamplay, cooperative play and friendliness. Preventing players from verbaly griefing others is why 'tells' dontwork in dungeons. I'm also not sure that the highly contested element pitching warriors of light against each other fits the game.

For people who are concerned about the best of the best farming the place: RNG, competition. If you were one of the best of the best, would you spend time farming A Rank (and above) level hunts to compete with 7-23 additional people for a potentially low % chance of a i210 drop (which could have horrible stats for your job), or would you just farm Savage with no more than 7 other people to compete with for a 100% chance of a i210 drop (with stats designed to be good for your job)?

I guess I'm excited to run Void Ark and the new dungeons. Not excited for the overwhelming amount of RNG this patch looks to be bringing. :/

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Originally Posted by Airget

If you ignore the sky content that's on you, that content in itself seems to offer a more wide variety of things to do compared to what a 3rd dungeon would "add" in terms of roulette.

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They literally made me swallow my words, seriously proud of SE. An actual NEW system to obtain equipment that isn't irrelevant, a different way of doing things.

Please more of this SE, you have gained my subscription.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Yes, but there is already inclusive content in the game. The new raids. This content would be fun and a nice change of pace. Contested Dungeons are VERY different from normal ones.

Its not very friendly. However its not meant for the weak.

Contested Content if its done right usually survives a lot longer then average dungeons.

Other parties mean the content is more dynamic, which means its less boring.

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It is almost certainly not going to have anything to do with PVP. It's been left out of the translations but Yoshi-P basically emphasized that if you meet other parties out in the field you can chat with them and work together (チャットしながら進んでください）. Zero mention of fighting them, and frankly it makes sense because it would be really stupid for alliances of 24 people to just run around whomping anyone who dares queue solo or as a small group lol.

goodbye world, hello again goldsaucer

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Originally Posted by Dree-Elle

Way to be a douche, douche.

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If you did your hw before complaining about a minigame that will be a part of the MVG, the end all be all of serious content /rollseyes, then you would be aware that they already said none of those minions will provide any huge advantages.

I'm ready for those exploratory missions (and of course the Void Ark)
Give them to me

Pimps. Hope you had fun and get some much needed rest on that vacation. :)

At this point RNG is slang for "you're not allowed to have what you want, but please keep subscribing."

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

I'm just not sure that kind of content will be inclusive enough, it sounds a liitle to close to something that a small group ofhighly geared players could dominate.

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He's looking for things like old school EQ/EQ2 contested dungeons.

Which a single group with any kind of gear *can* completely dominate!

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Originally Posted by Sicno

At this point RNG is slang for "you're not allowed to have what you want, but please keep subscribing."

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So you want 100% drop rate? I'm confused, I almost thought this was an RPG and an MMO.

What does it mean by Mudra latency is being fixed? Are they going to revamp the whole system or they just going to keep the same combination and do something about the latency?

And about the sky exploration, I wonder if it will be similar to PSO2 instance whereas you go in as solo or in party, and encounter another party there.

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Originally Posted by Erendis

New Gold Saucer rewards:

http://s20.postimg.org/vxq0hd2fx/Clipboard35.jpg
http://s20.postimg.org/tufl9p2n1/Clipboard36.jpg

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I know the Afro is new, but is the hairstyle the female is wearing new too.....?

So, from what little details there are in the translation document, it sounds like we have quite a lot of content to expect from this patch. Aside from the new 24 player raid, the main thing I'm interested in is to see how the new Relic works. I never did the relic questline for weapons prior to 3.0, and as a MCH main, I'd have to wait until this patch before I can start on it anyhow. However, when I learned that after a certain point you could customize the stats of the weapon to better suit your play style, that did pique my interest, and I'm really hoping that something similar exists in these new iterations. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see for more details though.....

Is there a list of screenshots taken from the letter as well as all of the info revealed?

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Contested Content is fun and actually really popular.

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Lol, you mean like HNMs in FFXI were? No one likes being locked out of content just because someone got there first.

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Originally Posted by Evtrai

So you want 100% drop rate? I'm confused, I almost thought this was an RPG and an MMO.

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Because removing RNG from a game has to mean 100% drop rates. *rolls eyes*

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Originally Posted by Evtrai

So you want 100% drop rate? I'm confused, I almost thought this was an RPG and an MMO.

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I'd rather have a way in which if I work towards something for a reasonable ammount of time I'm guaranteed to eventually get it. I'm not saying I want things instantly, I'm saying relying 100% on luck is stupid.

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Originally Posted by Sicno

I'd rather have a way in which if I work towards something for a reasonable ammount of time I'm guaranteed to eventually get it. I'm not saying I want things instantly, I'm saying relying 100% on luck is stupid.

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wow a smart player who gets the point of why to much RNG sucks on mmos. glad to see there is still people like you :)

sadly the 100% luck based best gear thing is a common theme on 99% of all eastern mmos. which is why they keept failing on the west because we dont like LUCK = GEAR we prefer EFFORT/CHALLENGE = GEAR. this new feature has to potential to ruin ff14 if they use the typcial eastern mmo elements on it -.- which i sadly fear they will. whats the point of adding tokens to savage mode drops when you put better gear elsewere with even worse rng? may aswell not have added them then at all.

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Originally Posted by Antanias

Is there a list of screenshots taken from the letter as well as all of the info revealed?

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I posted screenshots of almost all slides in first few pages of this thread.

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Originally Posted by Pomelo

I know the Afro is new, but is the hairstyle the female is wearing new too.....?

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Not sure about that. Seems like females are getting new hat, so might not get hair.

That Haurchefant portrait is great, but I'm really hoping they don't use that as an excuse to skimp out on that minion they said they were going to make...

I wish they went into more detail on airship explorations for those of us who aren't FC members. While they did say we could still take part, the lack of details makes me feel that those of us who prefer to remain unattached are gonna get gimped compared to FC runs.

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Originally Posted by WellFooled

I like that the Void Ark is showing a creepier side of Allagan tech. We've seen Allagan based dungeons so much now, its nice to see Allagan from a different angle.

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The Void Ark isn't Allagan. It's Mhachi. The mention of the flood confirms the theory that the Mhachi void mages built it to escape the flood that wiped out Eorzea following the War of the Magi.

I have to say I'm disappointed by the delay though. I barely log in at the moment as there's nothing particularly interesting to do. We got no real 'new' content with the expansion; it was all just new versions of stuff we already had at the end of the 2.X cycle. Judging by how dead my FC and linkshells are I'm fairly certain I'm not the only one either. As much as the devs deserve a break this delay is going to impact subs I think.

The last thing in Mr. Happy's translation.

"Warning people about FC theives"

We had just prevented something like that. Someone joined us at level 1, started asking strange questions

"where's the house?"
"Where's the bank?"
*they put 10 gil into the bank*
"Can i have some money?"
*we ask why they need money at level 1*
"I need to get back to Gridania"
"When can i craft, i need money?"
(they had previously asked for several hundred thousand gil, but never specified what for)

One thing for people concerned about particular pets giving an unfair advantage:

One thing they mentioned was that each Minion has a 'cost' which goes against a total quota of minions you can field at the same time. The stronger the minion, the more it costs. That means that even if one minion has great abilities, the opponent could be fielding 2 - 3 weaker minions for the same quota cost. So you can have a couple of really strong minions but your enemy could be fielding a lot more minions than you and since this game involves defending locations, being very outnumbered could be really bad.

Still no new housing. We need new plots and housing available.

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Originally Posted by WellFooled

I like that the Void Ark is showing a creepier side of Allagan tech. We've seen Allagan based dungeons so much now, its nice to see Allagan from a different angle.

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In the summary it don't seem that allagans have build it.
It sound more that it was created by magicians at the end of the 5th astral era (war of magi), shortly before the elementals summoned the big flood to cleans the land (see 1.x WHM jobquests).

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Originally Posted by Windklinge

wow a smart player who gets the point of why to much RNG sucks on mmos. glad to see there is still people like you :)

sadly the 100% luck based best gear thing is a common theme on 99% of all eastern mmos. which is why they keept failing on the west because we dont like LUCK = GEAR we prefer EFFORT/CHALLENGE = GEAR. this new feature has to potential to ruin ff14 if they use the typcial eastern mmo elements on it -.- which i sadly fear they will. whats the point of adding tokens to savage mode drops when you put better gear elsewere with even worse rng? may aswell not have added them then at all.

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But for the EA missions he did mention that we will get points to get items as well............so maybe those items will be of equal value. I didn't touch much on them .

We have a system where, you put in the time/effort and you get the gear and look at the post of people with "nothing to do". The O.F. will welcome the RNG gods with open arms if it means having a reason to repeatedly run content.

*gazes deeply in to the crystallball* i can see the complaints incoming alrdy coz people cant get everything withing the first day of 3.1 , and that they have to grind it to much to get something , + the ones who say they got nothign to do XD