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10-06-2011, 05:02 PM
Takinagi

We got him down to 30-35% with our r45 dungeon gear so we are hoping after we make all this new gear we can get him down, either way like you said only a matter of time.
10-06-2011, 11:25 PM
Delmontyb

I wish you all the best of luck and am looking forward to this fight as well. I'm glad to hear that it is such a challenge. :)
10-07-2011, 08:40 AM
Richardd

we found the answer.
10-07-2011, 08:42 AM
Rau

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardd

we found the answer.

42

Also, GZ

/10char
10-07-2011, 08:47 AM
Richardd

4 8 15 16 23 42
10-07-2011, 09:24 AM
Royal

care to share?
10-07-2011, 09:31 AM
Richardd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal

care to share?

after it's dead, sure.
10-07-2011, 10:23 AM
Zdenka

Its most about damage evasion, you can actually dodge ALL damage it does besides tank damage in phase 1 and 2. (doesn't mean you can/will)

Its big 360 hit is scripted to go off at the same times (can run out of range to avoid)

Dash, Voids, Pulse (meele can dance it, go in do 2-3 meeles, dance out, buff WS dance out etc)

We've got the P3 (or P4, whatever you want to call it) with mostly everyone dead a few times but it seems bursting P2 is the general goal (6-8 maim/doomspike is really all thats needed)
10-07-2011, 10:33 AM
Richardd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zdenka

Its most about damage evasion, you can actually dodge ALL damage it does besides tank damage in phase 1 and 2. (doesn't mean you can/will)

Its big 360 hit is scripted to go off at the same times (can run out of range to avoid)

Dash, Voids, Pulse (meele can dance it, go in do 2-3 meeles, dance out, buff WS dance out etc)

We've got the P3 (or P4, whatever you want to call it) with mostly everyone dead a few times but it seems bursting P2 is the general goal (6-8 maim/doomspike is really all thats needed)

After nails phase Sear is casted every 10 seconds as well as zone wide Plumes. You won't be able to dance around all of it (while doing reasonable damage to burn his last 20% down)
10-07-2011, 10:53 AM
Zdenka

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardd

After nails phase Sear is casted every 10 seconds as well as zone wide Plumes. You won't be able to dance around all of it (while doing reasonable damage to burn his last 20% down)

I see, we just did an attempt where we got 2 nails down (1 dead entering nail phase) so we should be able to see the point after it soon.
10-07-2011, 05:36 PM
Richardd

update: http://www.gwcdn.com/albums/images/4...6df10066bf.jpg
10-07-2011, 07:19 PM
Richardd

front page updated.
10-07-2011, 07:29 PM
Chardrizard

I am amazed no one has taken ifrit down yet lol. Kudos for difficult content.
10-07-2011, 07:30 PM
Richardd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chardrizard

I am amazed no one has taken ifrit down yet lol. Kudos for difficult content.

it's seriously is quite challenging. we're reaaaaaaaaallly enjoying it.
10-07-2011, 09:34 PM
Actus

Getting there...

http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s...Capture040.jpg
10-07-2011, 09:47 PM
Richardd

8% ..............
10-07-2011, 10:27 PM
AreeyaJaidee

Did you guys go in with materia yet?
10-07-2011, 10:30 PM
Richardd

Quote:

Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee

Did you guys go in with materia yet?

we are using materia yes. we're pretty confident it's almost impossible without it.
10-07-2011, 10:39 PM
Arximiro

Richardd can you direct me to where you got this FFXIV Parser and what programs I need to run it? Really enjoyed parsing in FFXI and would love one for FFXIV.

Sorry if this was asked and answered already but it isn't in the OP and I don't want to go through 10 pages.
10-07-2011, 10:41 PM
Royal

If he is the same person as the thread I read on ffxivpro, the parser is not given out freely.
10-07-2011, 10:47 PM
Richardd

It's not mine to freely give out as Royal has said. I'm sure there is a download link still on xivpro though.
10-07-2011, 10:53 PM
Arximiro

I believe I found it, but no idea how to get it working.
10-07-2011, 11:02 PM
AreeyaJaidee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardd

we are using materia yes. we're pretty confident it's almost impossible without it.

I believe this is 100% true and Yoshi hinted such as if it was intentional.

One part i can see being a huge indicator is mages MP. 3 THM without MP materia still have mana conservation on a tight rope with this fight.
10-07-2011, 11:10 PM
Richardd

Quote:

Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee

I believe this is 100% true and Yoshi hinted such as if it was intentional.

One part i can see being a huge indicator is mages MP. 3 THM without MP materia still have mana conservation on a tight rope with this fight.

you guys run with x3 THM?
10-08-2011, 12:44 AM
Richardd

20 hours later (4PM EST Thursday~12AM EST Friday), our best attempt was down to 8%. We need to sleep for a few hours to revitalize. Will update when we wake up in a bit!
10-08-2011, 05:40 AM
Richardd

aaaaaaaaand back to the grind -_-
10-08-2011, 05:46 AM
Royal

You guys are just machines
10-08-2011, 05:47 AM
Belial

Good luck to you guys, you've been at it like madmen, lol.
10-08-2011, 06:02 AM
Richardd

we're trying out a new composition. KCBRN.
10-08-2011, 06:06 AM
Twentytwo

So so close..
10-08-2011, 06:14 AM
Murugan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardd

we're trying out a new composition. KCBRN.

Hmmm... KCBRN.

Keen Flurry + Chaos Thrust burn?
10-08-2011, 06:16 AM
Richardd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murugan

Hmmm... KCBRN.

Keen Flurry + Chaos Thrust burn?

nah nahnahnahnahnah
10-08-2011, 06:25 AM
Murugan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardd

nah nahnahnahnahnah

Why not? yyyyyyyyyyyyyy
10-08-2011, 06:30 AM
Richardd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murugan

Why not? yyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Chaos Thrust is 2000TP minimum and eats all TP over 2000 (after 20%). Unless you have Full, Heavy and Pierce up you wont hit 2000TP fast enough for the instant CD effect of Keen Flurry to be worth while. Also Chaos Thrust is poor damage compared to other, more optimized class specific weapons skills.
10-08-2011, 06:34 AM
Murugan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardd

Chaos Thrust is 2000TP minimum and eats all TP over 2000 (after 20%). Unless you have Full, Heavy and Pierce up you wont hit 2000TP fast enough for the instant CD effect of Keen Flurry to be worth while. Also Chaos Thrust is poor damage compared to other, more optimized class specific weapons skills.

After 20% even? I didn't know that. That's a big change if that is the case. See I would think Chaos Thrust would do more damage after 20%, and I would think with invigorate II, speed Surge II, and basic skills one wouldn't have a problem getting 2 Chaos Thrusts in 10 seconds to make full use of Maim.
10-08-2011, 06:45 AM
Richardd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murugan

After 20% even? I didn't know that. That's a big change if that is the case. See I would think Chaos Thrust would do more damage after 20%, and I would think with invigorate II, speed Surge II, and basic skills one wouldn't have a problem getting 2 Chaos Thrusts in 10 seconds to make full use of Maim.

that may have merit in a tank n' spank fight but in a mobility fight where you are moving in/out/around every 10 to 15 seconds it wont happen reliably. Even if it was consistent, there are still better weaponskills as previously stated.
10-08-2011, 07:17 AM
Richardd

scratching the KCBRN setup and going back to the survivability composition from our 10% attempts last night.
10-08-2011, 09:41 AM
Iraphine

Oh snap...it's Richardd :)

Why are you not on Palamecia. Dislike.
10-08-2011, 10:22 AM
Zdenka

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murugan

After 20% even? I didn't know that. That's a big change if that is the case. See I would think Chaos Thrust would do more damage after 20%, and I would think with invigorate II, speed Surge II, and basic skills one wouldn't have a problem getting 2 Chaos Thrusts in 10 seconds to make full use of Maim.

Depends how much buffs raise it.

Chaos Thrust for me does 69 * 5 when Ifrit is full HP, or 350 damage. Unbuffed Doomspike II does 450-500, fully buffed (for me) is 770 range. We have a LNC that is nearly reaching 900 on his (Champ Lance+2 with 50 atk materia).

But its pretty funny, we've been going 4x LNC tonight mostly and getting him to P2 (Glowing phase) in like 3 minutes. LNC does by far the most damage now.

LNC has best Ingiv2 and with 4 of them you rotate Comrade in Arms and just spam Doomspike. Also LNC avoids its Pulses in Phase2 (when it glows) by abusing the longest meele range in the game. You move to where you "jump" in for your attacks and the pulse totally misses you. The essentially gives the the survivability an archer offers, and higher DPS.

Last phase like Richardd said its ridiculous though, the ground is nearly always covered in effects. Triple charge is easy to avoid but the plumes/sears are just X.x;;
10-08-2011, 10:58 AM
Keftenk

Holy crap, phase 4 (?) is so ridiculous ;=;
Animation lock is pretty lame though ;\ But still, even without animation lock, phase 4 so D:

Making it this far and dieing so much has made me really think if these weapons are really worth it or not lol

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