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10-01-2011, 01:32 AM
Gramul

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Originally Posted by Delsus

People wanted goldsmith to be changed to GSM,

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

The classes name isn't Tanner. lol

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Originally Posted by Misha

Con for the obvious mmo term use, was conflicting!

Oh.
Well there you have it.
10-01-2011, 01:33 AM
Akira_Tenshi

Some really great things in this patch. I'm so depressed now though. I play this game on PC but I can not fully appreciate it or enjoy it because my PC sucks. I just want to play it properly on PS3 and the better the game gets the more painful the fact its still nowhere in sight is! One step closer I guess...
10-01-2011, 01:39 AM
Delsus

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

That would be a player problem and not a problem with the decision to make GC specific runs yield more. They're thinking long term.

In the long term it will do even more damage, because PS3 players that might not know this therefore as soon as they can, possibly with no linkshell, and choose a GC they want only to not get accepted to runs because they chose the wrong company.

We need clarification before the patch to ensure that we can still get the gear with differant GCs, just gil/DM/seals doesnt matter as much.
10-01-2011, 01:41 AM
PikachuLink

So Ancient Magic.....Why Nerf The Timer? no one was using it already....hahaha oh well tho and nerfed even harder without the aoe? we will just have to see how this plays out.
10-01-2011, 01:42 AM
Fear

This patch looks amazing, so much content wonder how big the file download will be
10-01-2011, 01:45 AM
Nakiamiie

And: aww for gold going useless, I guess we won't see any golden items in the game.
10-01-2011, 01:46 AM
Misha

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Originally Posted by Fear

This patch looks amazing, so much content wonder how big the file download will be

Better yet... how big the queue's will be xD They were horrid when 1.18 went live lol If you happened to get on, got kicked off... just saying, don't see myself or many friends getting to play patch till next day, on Wednesday^^ Tuesday night prob going to be even more packed than 1.18's release >.< Been prepared for this hehe
10-01-2011, 01:47 AM
Cypher

Increases in VIT and PIE granted by gear have been made to influence maximum HP and MP respectively.

Will this also hold true for passive traits purchased with Guild marks?
10-01-2011, 01:47 AM
PikachuLink

Casting magic in passive = ftw Like if you agree WOOT ^^ hahaha
10-01-2011, 01:53 AM
PikachuLink

with featherfoot mp regeneration does this mean every class should be constantly featherfooting? haha
10-01-2011, 01:55 AM
Murugan

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Originally Posted by PikachuLink

with featherfoot mp regeneration does this mean every class should be constantly featherfooting? haha

Yep, hopefully they realize this mistake and make featherfoot pugilist only (like it always should have been imo).
10-01-2011, 01:55 AM
Riv

So what's with the 30 FPS toggle? Is that going to make it run better on low end machines or something?
10-01-2011, 01:56 AM
Royal

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

That would be a player problem and not a problem with the decision to make GC specific runs yield more. They're thinking long term.

They are both the same problem. Even if there were 1 million players, you still segregate based on GC and effectively divide the population due to extreme gear/loot rewards. It may still be easier to get a group granted but the segregation is still there. It is just worse in the current situation where we have less players.
10-01-2011, 01:57 AM
Teknoman

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Originally Posted by PikachuLink

So Ancient Magic.....Why Nerf The Timer? no one was using it already....hahaha oh well tho and nerfed even harder without the aoe? we will just have to see how this plays out.

Combined with the stats being rebalanced, these "elemental bomb" spells should be really strong. Of course they still need an animation change.
10-01-2011, 01:57 AM
Teknoman

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Originally Posted by Riv

So what's with the 30 FPS toggle? Is that going to make it run better on low end machines or something?

Its to lock it at a certain rate if you dont like framedrops I guess.
10-01-2011, 02:03 AM
Reika

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Originally Posted by Nakiamiie

My favourite changes so far:

No more complaints from party members when I killed other targets by accident, hahaha!

Now, that just really hyped me! Casting spells in passive mode? Totally awesome!!!

I can't wait to try that! New use for old equipment! :D

I wanted to say my thanks to the devs who thought of that, really useful.

Much easier to target and less targeting confusion while in party, yay!

The change I am not happy with:

Seriously, why????
This is really lame, really!

The things I will definitely miss and remain nostalgic of:

Other, unrelated to the above:

Weren't accessories becoming like underwear, unbreakable?

I lol at the mp/hp recovery change, because it is strangely similar to FFXI, cept no praying :D.
10-01-2011, 02:09 AM
Vingtdeux

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Originally Posted by Reika

I lol at the mp/hp recovery change, because it is strangely similar to FFXI, cept no praying :D.

That's what happens when people cry for casting magic while in passive mode.
10-01-2011, 02:12 AM
Zantetsuken

This entire update is pure gold.. but with one exception.

Why is so much stuff in Ul'dah still?

Move the Materia removing NPC to Grid or LL. We don't need any more reasons to go overcrowd Ul'dah.

BTW, did anyone catch the enemy size adjustment?? No more world-eating toads I'll wager :D

Also, I really like the HP/MP regen while standing still - its a worthwhile trade for casting in passive and it makes one value their MP a bit more.
10-01-2011, 02:15 AM
Delsus

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

This entire update is pure gold.. but with one exception.

Why is so much stuff in Ul'dah still?

Move the Materia removing NPC to Grid or LL. We don't need any more reasons to go overcrowd Ul'dah.

BTW, did anyone catch the enemy size adjustment?? No more world-eating toads I'll wager :D

The materia lore is around uldah, which is probably why they added it all there, but with airships it shouldnt matter too much once you have done the quests.

Your waaaayyyyyy off, the toads will be 5x the size i bet, the garleans gave em all growth hormones because they dont wanna fight us.
10-01-2011, 02:17 AM
Reika

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

This entire update is pure gold.. but with one exception.

Why is so much stuff in Ul'dah still?

Move the Materia removing NPC to Grid or LL. We don't need any more reasons to go overcrowd Ul'dah.

BTW, did anyone catch the enemy size adjustment?? No more world-eating toads I'll wager :D

Also, I really like the HP/MP regen while standing still - its a worthwhile trade for casting in passive and it makes one value their MP a bit more.

I find this couter-productive to spreading people across Eorzia too. They just added another reason for EVERYONE regardless of who they follow to run to thanalan for something. Cmon now SE.... Other than that, THe patch is awesome.

I wonder how the combat and stats changes will effect everyone tho. Will it make tanks into tanks and squishies into squishies finally?
10-01-2011, 02:22 AM
Teknoman

Gigantoad species should stay the same size :p I'm not really sure what enemies could have been increased or shrunk in size though...since imo everything seems like a nice size as they are.

Unless mitelings are bigger or something. Maybe Anglers/Orobons.

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Originally Posted by Reika

I find this couter-productive to spreading people across Eorzia too. They just added another reason for EVERYONE regardless of who they follow to run to thanalan for something. Cmon now SE.... Other than that, THe patch is awesome.

I wonder how the combat and stats changes will effect everyone tho. Will it make tanks into tanks and squishies into squishies finally?

It should since for now, everyone will have defined stats for each specific class + equipment benefits. Glad lancers got a really useful ability. Full deletion of enemy TP? Yes, Please.
10-01-2011, 02:22 AM
Riastrad

This is exactly the kind of patch we needed 1.19 to be.
10-01-2011, 02:24 AM
LemmingKingXXX

so does this mean that both MND and PIE will increase MP, or just PIE now
10-01-2011, 02:32 AM
Teknoman

I think MND = Magic defense/ Healing, INT = Magic Attack, PIE = MP?
10-01-2011, 02:34 AM
Lissandra

Just finished reading through the entire thing...

I liked what I saw. ^^
10-01-2011, 02:36 AM
PikachuLink

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

Combined with the stats being rebalanced, these "elemental bomb" spells should be really strong. Of course they still need an animation change.

Yes i am hoping for this ^^; I Really want those Ancient Magic spells to be useful and massive.
10-01-2011, 02:37 AM
LemmingKingXXX

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

I think MND = Magic defense/ Healing, INT = Magic Attack, PIE = MP?

PIE has always been magic potency (which also did some nice things to the damage rates of DoTs), before 1.19 MND determined the increase in MP similarly to how VIT increased HP, they didn't explicitly state that MND wouldn't be used in the MP calculation, only that PIE was going to be used, so does this mean that both are going to be used or just PIE now
10-01-2011, 02:38 AM
Teknoman

Ul'dahn Subligar Unique Untradable / Pants / Requires: Disciple of War / Required Level: 30 Defense 43 VIT:+3 DEX:+3 Evasion:+5

Aw man...exclusive Ul'dahn pants for disciples of war are subligar :(

Gridania gets the awesome:

Gridanian Trousers Unique Untradable / Pants / Requires: GLA MRD LNC / Required Level: 30 Defense 52 HP:+20 STR:+2 DEX:+2

Limsa isnt so bad either:

Lominsan Kecks Unique Untradable / Pants / Requires: GLA MRD LNC / Required Level: 30 Defense 40 STR:+3 DEX:+3 Evasion:+5
10-01-2011, 02:38 AM
PikachuLink

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Originally Posted by LemmingKingXXX

PIE has always been magic potency (which also did some nice things to the damage rates of DoTs), before 1.19 MND determined the increase in MP similarly to how VIT increased HP, they didn't explicitly state that MND wouldn't be used in the MP calculation, only that PIE was going to be used, so does this mean that both are going to be used or just PIE now

We will have to wait and see but im wondering how this will effect gearing choices ^^
10-01-2011, 02:47 AM
Rizon

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Originally Posted by Victor

Thought the notes would be a bit longer...

Probably classified "War and Peace" as a short story
10-01-2011, 03:01 AM
AlexNiculaie

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Aw man...exclusive Ul'dahn pants for disciples of war are subligar

That should please Reinheart.
10-01-2011, 03:02 AM
zaviermhigo

Pumped about liking everything except one thing. WTF at price increasing as level increases(airship). I know we have more money but it seems like you are just makig 5000gil for gits and shiggles because we have more gil. I would like to hear their explanation for this.

Everything else though I loved.
10-01-2011, 03:03 AM
Rizon

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Originally Posted by Murugan

I don't know why everyone assumes people are going to join ul'dah.

There is no longer any prohibitive cost to travel between cities, and Ul'dah and Limsa both have extremely dorky company salutes. Add onto that the fact that Gridania's story line so far is easily the most interesting of the three, and I think Ul'dah's days of dominating the Grand Companies are over before they even started.

Everyone will still hang out in Ul'dah though, because you have to unless you are some weird loner/nonconformist.

I also chose Ul'dah because I like the theme (desert), but I think I might have to relent and join the Twin Adders in order to be in the same company as my LS (depending on how exactly this works with "rewards").

Wierd loner/nonconformist. hmmm.....do we know each other
10-01-2011, 03:09 AM
Murugan

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Wierd loner/nonconformist. hmmm.....do we know each other

That wasn't meant to be a personal attack on you. I'm just saying that people hang out in Ul'dah because people hang out in Ul'dah. Square Enix not only can't stop that, but they shouldn't try to mess with it. It builds community for people to have a central place to congregate.
10-01-2011, 03:15 AM
Rizon

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Originally Posted by Riv

Sad that the extra inventory space will eventually be taken away. But hey, maybe they will allow personal chocobos to carry extra items for us. That would be awesome :O

Patch is still made of win.

After reading this I have a feeling that we will be seeing a number of storage NPCs that will be accessable from all 3 cities. Just a guess.
10-01-2011, 03:16 AM
Amsai

There is a lot to love in this new patch. I am especially pleased with changes to Gladiator. Ive always hated the Guard mechanic. Also I am really interested in those new exp bonus items. Where would we get them, what are their restrictions? Are they scrolls or something like the exp rings from FFXI? It would fit in nicely I suppose with what Yoshi haa said recently about chargeable accessories.
10-01-2011, 03:16 AM
Murugan

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Originally Posted by Rizon

After reading this I have a feeling that we will be seeing a number of storage NPCs that will be accessable from all 3 cities. Just a guess.

How would they pull off removing inventory space? Are a certain number of your items just going to disappear from your inventory?
10-01-2011, 03:25 AM
Rizon
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Originally Posted by Kiara

Hi All / Yoshida-san,

First off, I'm super excited by most of the 1.19 Changes. Some major improvements across too many areas to reiterate here. But a few key things hit me:

New Interface Tutorials: Even though I no longer need them, I'm really glad to see SE taking the time to make it friendly for any new players to get into the game. I remember sitting in Open Beta (and explaining to my friends when it got released Day 1) how to just even get out of the opening sequence (how to open Main Menu, attack, etc.). :) This is a good update.

I love the new content for Grand Companies - So much more stuff to do. Repeatable Grand Company Leves, Caravans, etc. :)

Beastmen Strongholds! Love it! :)

New Low Level Dungeon (Open World) for newer players or those ranking new class. :)

Locked Chests! This has that excitement / fantasy / adventure feeling to get a special Key and go hunting for a Locked Chest. I wonder what's in there? :)

Ifrit Battle!

Chocobos and Airships. :) Joy!

That being said, I think Square / Yoshida-san made a few questionable mistakes in 1.19 already:

Square keeps telling us, "Oh don't worry about what Grand Company you join!" and they add this "little" caveat above?! :(

It's not all about Gear or Rewards (just doing the Ifrit Fight will be really fun), but it's questionable what they were thinking when adding this. Of course it's going to promote your friends and/or LS mates to want to join the same Grand Company.

It sets a precedence for future Dungeon / Raids to "those in the same Grand Company will earn even cooler stuff (again) and (again) etc. in 1.20 and beyond."

Maybe they were hoping that it'd promote just grabbing strangers / pick up groups, but I think it will do the opposite (especially since this is for Ifrit Hard Mode).

Promoting even MORE Centralization of Ul'dah.

I understand that for the lore, the Goblin who brought Materia to Eorzea had to land somewhere and start his business, but for all the "decentralization" that Yoshida-san and his team is trying to do (to get people to LL or Gridania), they pull off this mistake:

For the Materia System (THE new, critical method for developing Gear for Low or High Level):

All of these design choices, just further cement Ul'dah as the central city (including the Main Storyline which sends everyone over there).

It's fine for me and many others, as we're used to going to Ul'dah or staying there permanently now, but for all their hard work, it's strange that SE and Yoshida-san just decides to plop so much critical stuff back in... Ul'dah and Thanalan. :confused:

Overall, I really look forward to 1.19, but a few changes are going to be interesting to say the least.

I can't wait for next week! :)
I think their idea was to make it a central point that the citizens of all three cities could easily access. Would have been great for a more diversified population but I fear that with the current consentration in Ul'Dah what you predict will come true.
10-01-2011, 03:25 AM
Biggs

I have to say they look to have delivered a significant patch here. MANY of the issues I have hated about this game seem to be getting fixed in this patch. The claiming system and link system alone makes this patch fantastic.
10-01-2011, 03:34 AM
Geesus

I have been at work trying to read through this LOL.Taking forever and I have no real complaints but one question. Why are there only 2 spots compared to the other cities in Limsa for new side quests? O.o

That is all I have to ask otherwise I'm so excited reading this stuff ...I really am so anxious to just DO EEEETTTTT and PLAY! lmao :p

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