Please Use the Correct Form of Jump Square Enix!!!

Hmm, the "bad example" videos got removed because people actually liked what they saw there?

I vote for free jumping, not situational-type jumps. Not everyone is a child here and as for the few immature who will spend their time jumping, I don't mind since I certainly will not play with them.

"Let's handcuff everyone, because some commit crimes", this type of mentality is what kills the fun in games in my opinion.

I just want to say i think it is crazy people are complaining jumping will ruin immersion but everyone was perfectly happy when Square added the option to hide your weapon, so when drawn you pull it out of your ass, because that is so realistic. No way is jumping as big as an immersion killer as that stupid pointless feature was. Square doesn't care about things like immersion anyway. At least jumping has some practical uses.

Just so long as it isn't the 'jump' mechanism from Star Wars Galaxies or Age Of Conan, all they were were animations.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Just so long as it isn't the 'jump' mechanism from Star Wars Galaxies or Age Of Conan, all they were were animations.

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Could you elaborate on this, please? You're the second to make that argument, and I don't understand what it's supposed to mean. What else should it be? Jennestia, I think you said it too, what do you mean with "just an animation"?

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Originally Posted by Naqaj

Could you elaborate on this, please? You're the second to make that argument, and I don't understand what it's supposed to mean. What else should it be? Jennestia, I think you said it too, what do you mean with "just an animation"?

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Basically, when you press the jump button on SWG or AoC your character does a jumping animation but the game engine still operates as if you were standing on the floor, so if you try to jump off a cliff you'll slide down it as if you were running down it, and cliffs you can't run down you can't jump down. It totally defeats the purpose of having a jump button, since you're never 'actually' jumping.

Interesting! I only fooled around a bit with the free trial of AoC, never payed attention to this. Could you still jump on things at least?
The cliff thing is understandable though, being able to jump doesn't neccessarily mean you no longer have invisible barriers. There are still areas where it makes sense to prevent players from entering or leaving.

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Originally Posted by Naqaj

Interesting! I only fooled around a bit with the free trial of AoC, never payed attention to this. Could you still jump on things at least?
The cliff thing is understandable though, being able to jump doesn't neccessarily mean you no longer have invisible barriers. There are still areas where it makes sense to prevent players from entering or leaving.

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On AoC you could jump over things but it was really glitchy, it often caused characters to pass through the object or bounce around on it. On SWG jump had no practical function, you couldn't jump over or on anything, if you tried to jump over something, even if it was only one foot tall, you'd still hit it like you were running.

In FFXIV there's not really anywhere we're particularly restricted from going, jump would simply serve as a quicker way to get down a cliff instead of having to run all the way around it to get to the lower ground.

I think it's all a case of sensibility. At the moment our characters 'aren't daft enough' to try and run off a vertical cliff so we stop at the top of it and have find an area to run down. Those of us that have 'lemming tendencies' (like me :D) would rather take the risk of leaping off high places than waste ages finding somewhere to run down.

lol at 100s of people afk using jump bots. I mean really.

IMO I would like SE to do it the easiest way possible, and I think adding thousands of jump points to the game will not be it.

I so agree with the FF13 style jumping... freestyle jumping would be really strange in an FF, and it'd just be stupid to look at if all these great-looking detailed characters were just hopping around in circles throughout the cities like it's WoW. I can also imagine the havoc jumping would wreak with hairstyles and robes and stuff. Proabably wouldn't be pretty to look at someone jumping up and down constantly for 10 minutes if they had quite a few items that were flailing about haphazardly.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

lol at 100s of people afk using jump bots. I mean really.

IMO I would like SE to do it the easiest way possible, and I think adding thousands of jump points to the game will not be it.

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Both types would take equal amount of work. The engine itself already can set up "jump points" but with "free jumping" they'd have to redo a lot of geometry as well as create a whole set of other restrictions.

"Oh if people start playing the game in ways I don't want them to it would just ruin the game for me."

Hate to break it to you lovely people, but if that's all it takes to ruin a game for you then you probably weren't much into the game to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Celebcarca

I understand that FFXIV wants AND NEEDS to pool players from WoW, but if the only way they can do that is by making this game WoW, then they have already lost. Those same PvP'ers are never happy with WoW PvP unless the parameters favor them. If any of you have ever played WoW, just check chat after any major patch and watch the whining "X" class is way OP!!!. They need to nerf "Y" class because I can't beat them using the same old straegy I have always used .

People don't learn to play WoW, WoW spoon feeds them.

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Your argument is ridiculous. WoW also has swords and magic, would you prefer not to have those as well?

WoW like it or not happens to be the most successful MMO in history so obviously they have done something right. I would much prefer FF take the good aspects from WoW and mold it into something better. I happen to play both games and I can tell you that neither of them are anything alike so stop with the nerd rage.

100% agree with OP. Jump is retarded unless its an auto thing or a LNC (Dragoon) ability (which is my preferred method).

I thought they already announced that there will be free jump and its purpose beyond free jumping to irritate people is to interrupt a cast.

There should be no reason to tell the dev team what is right and what is wrong. It's their game, and if not for an early release they have much more experience in making successful games than me, you or most everyone else in these forums.

So, suck it up, and get over it. The only thing ruining the game for you, is your own limiting, unimaginative, overly sensitive view of the game. Let them finish the cake before you complain it taste bad, cause its not done yet!

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2011/08...int-one-eight/


They talk about jump being used to stop casting spells. Not free world spamz.