Triple Triad is the same thing as Atma

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

I'm not entirely sure that it's meant to be played with such intensity over a short period of time in order to farm cards, I think the intention was for it to be an aside to the main game that people can pick up and put down as they go. Honestly if people play 50+ matches against 1 NPC every day for 2-3 days and get bored, it serves them bloody well right.

PS. one definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result...at which point I would refer you to your 1st sentence.

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Problem with it being a side quest is the games "story" is so short that this is really all players have to do. Especially if they don't do coil or have no static

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

the drop rate isnt that bad.. what is it with people lately asoon as anything time consuming comes along they whinge n whinge n whinge about the effort needed to get somethin good.. ffs would u prefer they just handed you everything on a silver platter??

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Considering we pay a sub monthly, pretty much, if it was F2P then grind all you want, you're not paying of it.

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

on topic card drop rate isnt bad the problem is certain groups of gamers expect to get everything given to them on a silver platter with little or no effort. asoon as somethin that will require effort comes along they whinge like a 3 year old todler throwing a tantrum cause thier parents didnt buy them the toy they wanted at the shops

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL rng = effort? yeah right. see what you did there. thats just silly of you. plz learn what RNG means before saying this. youre blindsided one who defends a broken system which only rewards luckers and not effort. you can play tt with king elmer like 1000 times and never win your bahamut card even tough you faceroll him. and that is silly. if you can beat or outsmart an npc you should be rewarded. not because you got LUCKY AFTER A WIN. this system IS bis. i think the only way to get this to yoschis head is like give him a dice. each time he does not roll a 100 slap him in the face. maybe after 100 fails he gets the point why rng sucks and is plain unfun to most players.

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Originally Posted by Windklinge

rng = effort? yeah right.

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Well, "persistence" would perhaps have been a better word for it, but as far as the argument he was making goes, it amounts to the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Windklinge

if you can beat or outsmart an npc you should be rewarded. not because you got LUCKY AFTER A WIN. this system IS bs.

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But you do get rewarded after every win. Sometimes you'll get just the normal reward, and occasionally you'll get a secondary special reward as well, but there's always a reward.

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Originally Posted by Ranzan

This rare card rule make the game unplayable at best.

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This right here is the biggest issue. Even after collecting 60 cards and allowing free use of 3-star cards, you'll still be badly UP against NPCs that are more or less cheating and spamming legendaries. Who cares about collecting cards when I can't even use most of them?

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Originally Posted by Windklinge

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL rng = effort? yeah right. see what you did there. thats just silly of you. plz learn what RNG means before saying this. youre blindsided one who defends a broken system which only rewards luckers and not effort. you can play tt with king elmer like 1000 times and never win your bahamut card even tough you faceroll him. and that is silly. if you can beat or outsmart an npc you should be rewarded. not because you got LUCKY AFTER A WIN. this system IS bis. i think the only way to get this to yoschis head is like give him a dice. each time he does not roll a 100 slap him in the face. maybe after 100 fails he gets the point why rng sucks and is plain unfun to most players.

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broken system cause u cant get every card in n hour?? stop playing mmos if wanna whinge about somethin that works perfectly fine

My main concern with getting Triple Triad cards is there seems to be no consistency in drop rate. It seems like 1* cards and 4* cards have the same drop rate. I don't want to work for my 1* cards considering how many there are. It took me forever to get Minfilia, but she's my best card - so that's okay. I'm currently trying to get Memeroon's two cards he gives and it's infuriating because they're not 'rare' cards.

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

broken system cause u cant get every card in n hour?? stop playing mmos if wanna whinge about somethin that works perfectly fine

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keep defending a unfair system mate :) do what you like. rng is not fair. never was. if player A needs 100x times the time of player B to get the same thing done thats bullshit. no matter what you say. if it took like 20 wins to get a card its fine to me. but 100ths of wins? fuck off. thats boring and stupid.

Guys, there was a lot of rng in ff8 with triple triad. You could be reloading a save for hours to get a card you wanted. Just be fucking happy it exists now.

Personally I have given up. I can't get my head around it. I have been losing more MGP rather than gaining.

It's bull that the NPCs cards are better than yours.

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Originally Posted by Windklinge

keep defending a unfair system mate :) do what you like. rng is not fair. never was. if player A needs 100x times the time of player B to get the same thing done thats bullshit. no matter what you say. if it took like 20 wins to get a card its fine to me. but 100ths of wins? fuck off. thats boring and stupid.

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Unfair though it may be, that's just how it is. I agree, RNG can be bullshit. It's definitely a love and HATE! relationship. Honestly though, if you really hate RNG that much, you're probably not playing the right genre of game lol. RNG is literally a part of all MMORPGs. Sure, some games may try to minimize it as much as possible to give players rewards faster, but RNG is just how it is. It's literally what helps make the genre what it is. It's like projectiles in a shmup game... hard to imagine the genre without it.

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Originally Posted by Windklinge

keep defending a unfair system mate :) do what you like. rng is not fair. never was. if player A needs 100x times the time of player B to get the same thing done thats bullshit. no matter what you say. if it took like 20 wins to get a card its fine to me. but 100ths of wins? fuck off. thats boring and stupid.

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u do relise getting the ultimate cards in ff8 took hours upon hours of dueling them add the fact soft reset everytime u lost your good cards right?? in a way i wish they implemented losing cards in this version just for the QQ threads that would appear lol

It is always interesting how people make up their own meanings for words. Fair: Without cheating or trying to achieve unjust advantage. "No one could say that he played fair." According to the definition as long as everyone has the same low chance to obtain the cards it's completely fair. Triple Triad is a game of luck, minor skill, and outplaying the other player. If it were as simple as "You've fallen into my trap card, 25 times in a row, mwahaha" I don't think anyone would like it.

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Originally Posted by Kinseykinz

Ummm... it's GAMBLING....that's what gambling is all about /rng.

PS: the house always wins.

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This isn't gambling lmfao.. it is fun though, but it isn't gambling, you have nothing to lose outside of 15 mgp~30 mgp , time, and the odds are always in your favor because you're encouraged to use strategy, which is not luck. The only RNG is the drop rate.

This just isn't true. lol. I got my 30th card earlier today, opponents got exponentially easier, when you get 60 cards, you will be able to steam roll all npcs.

wat. Why would you collect cards by playing Triple Triad if you dont like playing Triple Triad? wat. wat. wat. wat.

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Originally Posted by Bishop81

It's bull that the NPCs cards are better than yours.

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If the NPC's cards are better than yours, then you're playing the wrong NPC. That's why they have various different NPCs you can play, at varying levels. The real first move of the game is choosing whom to challenge, and it seems a lot of players are making a bad first move. If you're still a beginner, with a beginner's assortment of cards, but you choose to challenge the top highest ranking NPC in the entire game, then of course he's going to have better cards than you do. When you have entry level cards, then you should be challenging entry level NPCs or players. As you get better at it, and accumulate a slightly better deck, then try the next, just slightly more advanced NPC, and so on. Eventually, as you build up your deck to a top tier one, you'll eventually be on par with the highest ranking players/NPCs.

It's a bit ridiculous that, even the very first day the Gold Saucer was released, when obviously every player there has just unlocked Triple Triad, so they all have to be beginners, there's hardly ever anybody playing Jonas. Instead everyone's clustered around King Elmer. It's like everyone's trying to lose.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

basically you keep doing the same thing over and over and hope that the item you want will drop after 2-3 hours.

Triple Triad is fun but playing with the same NPC for 50+ matches is not fun, and they use the same set of cards in every matches.

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Why on earth are you playing the same NPC for 50+ matches? This isn't Final Fantasy 8, you don't have to play Triple Triad against NPCs. The point of splitting the rulesets and obtaining cards is an organic experience while playing with other humans.


"Doing it wrong" doesn't even begin to describe this thread.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

It's a bit ridiculous that, even the very first day the Gold Saucer was released, when obviously every player there has just unlocked Triple Triad, so they all have to be beginners, there's hardly ever anybody playing Jonas. Instead everyone's clustered around King Elmer. It's like everyone's trying to lose.

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Funny thing is, I beat Elmer first time i played him. IMO the hardest guy in the casino is the one who plays on Random ruleset and the Ascension chick.