Vampires in Eorzea

their main ability would be

Scrape and Lick.

http://i.imgur.com/Henf9vb.jpg

Erhm.... Just randomely checking...

Noticed a very cute race called Grias in Final Fantasy Tactics S that I wonder WHY is NOT the 3.0 race...

T_T


Aura is so.... Meh...

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Erhm.... Just randomely checking...

Noticed a very cute race called Grias in Final Fantasy Tactics S that I wonder WHY is NOT the 3.0 race...

T_T


Aura is so.... Meh...

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Yeah I did notice that one. Like I said in the OP they are a race of draconic people(like the Au Ra) with vampire as a class. Gives you a lot of crazy ideas :D
As far as I know there are two problems with the Gria. 1. They are all female 2. They have wings that wouéd not only cause serious clipping issues with armor but also enables them to fly, or at the very least levitate.

I would really really love to play as a vampire!

I doubt we will ever be able to though :/

Seems to be highly unlikely to get a vampire race/class

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I would really really love to play as a vampire!

I doubt we will ever be able to though :/

Seems to be highly unlikely to get a vampire race/class

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Yeah it would be very complicated. Still if TESO could make vampire status work, it could happen.

At present I would be happy with even vampire NPC-s appearing. We could join later.

I would love to be a Vampire. :D I am a huge..huge...HUGE Vampire lover. You guys have no idea. lol
If the race would be able to be 'played', I would want to have some sort of levitating power, or have a Sprint ability for endless amounts of time (Kiss of the Viper NIN ability - endless, unless you take it off manually). And by God, I would love to have myself flying! If Ishgard/Heavensward can implement flying mounts, then why not us characters having some sort of class, or a way for US to fly as well?

Remember guys, this is Final FANTASY....ANYTHING can happen. :D

It's only fair if you add werewolves too. I'm a werewolf person. I want to be one of the werewolves from Ginger Snaps.

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It's only fair if you add werewolves too. I'm a werewolf person. I want to be one of the werewolves from Ginger Snaps.

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Why not? I'm a vampire person but nowadays vampires can't take two steps without bumping into werewolves. They are less represented in Final Fantasy (I think 5 is the only one) but who cares. We need innovation anyway.

I was thinking about how to impelement vampirism and came up with a system called Ascension. Unlike the armory stuff this would most likely be one permanent choice. You would pick one kind of superhuman existence that gives you a set of new abilities traits and everything you need to make it work. You would chose between saaay: Vampire, Padjal, Sylph and Werewolf.



By the way everyone, I asked about Ishgardian vampires in the Letter from the Producer Q&A. Feal free to show your support.

We might get an answer tomorrow. If my question is picked and Yoshie-P confirms vampires in Ishgard this will become the official thread. At least I intend it to be. Come to think of it, with 2.55 ending the way it did we might need a few undead characters.

Ishgard is totally the type of setting to have a few vampire elezen and hyur in hiding. Probably in plain sight, happily supporting Fortemps' drive to bring fresh meat adventurers into Coerthas' ranks... Oh wait.

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Ishgard is totally the type of setting to have a few vampire elezen and hyur in hiding. Probably in plain sight

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Exactly. This is why I brought up the issue when we are this close to getting into Ishgard. It is filled with nobles houses for gods' sake. Where else would vampires chose to live?

Okay, tinfoil hat edition. This will be long and might sounds utterly crazy, but I have figured out the story of 3.0 AND 4.0
Here goes nothing:

The first thing we have to remember is how Ascians work. Their thought process appears to be relatively simple. Random chaos=Zodiark returns. But, this is not so simple. They are always after specific goals and plan yearlong gambits to reach them. For example it is easy to see how they have been planning the finale of 2.0 ever since the very first Garlean invasion. Just look at the end result: Midgardsormr, the father of the huge primal they plan to throw on Eorzea, is pacified; the primals are summonable again; and Gaius lost favour so Nael van Darnus can take the stage with his crazy scheme to bring down Dalamud. Of course it certainly didn't hurt to have an angry Limsa sized dragon rampaging around Mor Dhona, the important thing was the ruin unearthed by the impact. Inside was Ultima Weapon a means for Gaius to solve the primal question. And Lahabrea and friends made sure that the primal question remains a relevant one. Before long the Garleans and the Ascians pulling their strings had access to a fully functional mechanical dragon. Inside that dragon is the actual end goal of Lahabrea: the ultima spell.
It is likely that a similarly specific thing is what they seek by instigating the dragonsong war. Or at the very least the recent renewal. Think about it. Much like how Palpatine played everyone for a chump during the clone wars, Lahabrea has the back of both Iceheart and the Archbishop. Of course his grip on the dragons is more loose, which is a problem because the dragons have what he seeks.
This is where the real random speculation begins. I was looking up information on Shinryu when I bumped into something curious. In Bravely Default the vampire castle that you must reach in order to get the vampire job crystal is sealed by six keystones, each held by one riddiculusly overpowered dragon. It made me wonder. Do we have six riddiculusly overpowered dragons in XIV? Well Midgardsormr had seven children and only Bahamut is confirmed dead. Ohhh. Well the numbers might not exactly match seeing that Midgardsormr and his kids predate mortal civilization but still an interesting idea. I cooked up the theory a few pages back that Ishgard is responsible for vampirism. Shiva was cursed by the Archbishop for laying with dragons, and she became a carrier of the vampire plague. The Dragons of course were nice people and wanted to help their ally. There was no cure and simply murdering them all was out of the question so instead they looked up Shiva and her vampires in a secret place and locked the door with magical stones. Each of the living wírmkings took one stone and all was well.
We know that a zombie plague destroyed Sil'dih. A vampire plague could potentially be even more destructive. Something like this would definitely interest Lahabrea. Only thing left it to kill the dragons. It is a simple matter to provoke the Dravanian horde into attacking, but Ishgard alone is not enough to win. And this is where the true trump card of the Ascians come into play. The Warrior of Light. They figured out that you may be a bit too powerful to kill. It is better if they count on you winning. But of course you are on the other side of the gate and don't really care about Ishgardians since they kept for themselves while Eorzea burned. Why would you help them? Well, because Lolorito, that's why. The warrior gets framed by puppet number one and gets rescued by puppet number two AKA Urianger. It is child's play to herd the WoL and the remaining Scions into Ishgard and watch as they win the war single handedly.
Okay, so Lahabrea has his vampires. What now? Well it would be nice to synthesize it, as an epidemic is hard to controll. This calls for an expert in magitek research. I'd imagine Nero would gladly jump at the opportunity to outdo Cid. Now all that remains is finding a place famed for its technology. Directly going into Garlemald is out of the question. That would be too reckless even for them. But there is another place that should have became acessible a long time ago. Ala Mhigo. Just imagine the three way battle between Nero's vampires, the occupying Garleans and the Ala Mhigan Resistance. It would be glorious. It wouldn't be impossible for the empire to forge a temporary alliance with Eorzea against the common enemy and perhaps paving the way for a gunblade using class.

What do you think?

I would love to see a vampire class implemented in the future.

but, as Derek Hale, I NEED to be a Werewolf è_è

A moogle race would be implemented faster than a vampire or werewolf race...

As long as they don't sparkle....

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A moogle race would be implemented faster than a vampire or werewolf race...

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Wanna bet?

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Originally Posted by Morbid

As long as they don't sparkle....

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Of course they don't. Fairies sparkle. Vamps don't.

I was under the impression that that one miqo'te that shows up during the Halloween event is "probably" a vampire.

Well, you do have Lady Amandine (Haukke Manor).

is not impossible to do, they can use the idea of the vampire class from bravely default game. but, this class is only a different way to do the blue mage (actually i prefer the principe of the vampire at the blue mage make more sense)

however, i doubt it will happend soon... if it happend.

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I was under the impression that that one miqo'te that shows up during the Halloween event is "probably" a vampire.

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0.o I might have missed that one. Only NPC I remember from Halloween is the Ogre Pumpkinhead. Do you have any more info?

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Originally Posted by Conradus

Well, you do have Lady Amandine (Haukke Manor).

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Yeah she comes up regulary in the discussion. You can see it if you look at the other pages. Oppinions are still divided wether she is a sadistic person, a succubus, or a vampire.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

is not impossible to do, they can use the idea of the vampire class from bravely default game. but, this class is only a different way to do the blue mage (actually i prefer the principe of the vampire at the blue mage make more sense)

however, i doubt it will happend soon... if it happend.

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True, a vampire class would conflict with blue mage. Then again, there are various ways to include vampires. Killable enemies, NPCs, playable race, playable class, status.

New posters please read the previous pages. Ten pages is not that long compared to some of the other discussions. Thanks ^^

I'm actually leaning towards White Magic's darker aspect making use of vampirism. Amdapor was brought down because of the extreme pride of their white mages, and we know that the elements ban widespread teaching of white magic because of how dangerous it is. Why? Because conjury (and subsequently white magic) drains the life force of the environment, people, or the user in order to work--Amdapor City's ruins are filled with poisons, rot, mold and all sort of unhealthy things. Their mages might've drained the land bone dry, and the elements got pissed and now only the padjali and the WoL use it.

But what if teaching of white magic survived when the Gelmorrans fled underground to escape the floods? There lies an avenue to bring out the "bad" aspect of white magic, through those white mages who continue to practice this kind of "vampirism" in secret. What if the duskwights that didn't go to Grid carry on the practice in secret? What if when the founding fathers of Ishgard went to follow Halone north, their people brought white magic with them?

After the 6th umbral era, magic of all type got banned in whole Eorzea. People who performed magic got hunted down and later even those who did science.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/15qopkj.jpg

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After the 6th umbral era, magic of all type got banned in whole Eorzea. People who performed magic got hunted down and later even those who did science.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/15qopkj.jpg

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Nice pic. Where did you get it?

Okay, resurrecting the old thread as we have new info from 3.0
No, we don't have vampires yet. We have gargoyles witches and even the reaper, but no vamps. However a journal lying on the floor in the Gubal Library finally confirmed that Lady Amandine is not a vampire. She is a succubus and someone in Sharlayan conspired to turn her into one.
Succubi here are corpses of women posessed by voidsent.

Count Fortemps looks a lot like a vampire, but he didn't bare his fangs.

For a moment, I thought this was a thread about the Monetarists of Uldah... Actually why aren't vampires all over Uldah? They're basically the personification of what the monetarists are!

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For a moment, I thought this was a thread about the Monetarists of Uldah... Actually why aren't vampires all over Uldah? They're basically the personification of what the monetarists are!

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Agreed. Ul'dah has thaumaturges, alchemists, monetarists and zombie plagues. It's a mirracle it isn't filled with vampires. To be fair Ishgard has the better atmosphere for them and The Black Shroud has white magic which, despite it's name is very much like vampirism. Pretty much every area outside of La Noscea should be swarming with vamps.

Can we count on Hildibrand to investigate them?

After redoing a CNJ quest, one of the fundamentals of CNJ is knowing where you get the aether you're using to cast spells. If reckless/ignorant, you can draw aether not only from nature, but your own life-force and the life energy of people near by.

Of course, this has nothing to do with vampirism, but the fundamentals exists in cnj/whm it seems

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After redoing a CNJ quest, one of the fundamentals of CNJ is knowing where you get the aether you're using to cast spells. If reckless/ignorant, you can draw aether not only from nature, but your own life-force and the life energy of people near by.

Of course, this has nothing to do with vampirism, but the fundamentals exists in cnj/whm it seems

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Exactly. Drawing from the life force of others to heal is as close we can get to vampirism without actually biting necks. My character is keeping a close eye on the Padjal.

Okay I was bored tonight so I figured I would try my hand at designing a vampire class. More or less a blue mage with attitude,
It would be a second job for the rogues as they were dual wielding elite assassins in XI anyway (I didn't play it).
Unlike other jobs they would have absolutely no cross class abilities. That is because of Blue Magic.
Granted, making believable blue magic in an MMO is hard so I tried to rip off XI again, which is a daunting task withouth prior play experience.


So Vampires would have an ability called Junction. You select one of three disciplines and hit junction, much like you would when using ninjutsu. However the effect remains untill you hit junction again.
The three disciplines are the following:
- Elemental Magic (grants access to fire, blizzard, thunder, stone, aero, and fluid aura, switches piety and intelligence with strength and dexterity)
- Curative Magic (grants acess to cure, medica, raise, protect, esuna and adoloquium, switches piety and mind with strength and dexterity)
- Physical Attack (grants acess to blood for blood, life surge. haymaker and howling fist, increases strength and dexterity, but lowers magic defense and attack magic potency)

Naturally aquiring these disciplines will require you to undertake job quests where you suck your fellow adventurers dry....errr I mean use blue magic on evil monsters.

The rest of the abilities are vampire stuff I stole from vampire enemies of previous games, or just created on my own.

Blood Feast (absorb HP and MP and inflict Sap)

Blood Pact ( 75% damage and healing shared with target)

Piercing gaze (Inflict fear in a cone before you)

Wing flap (knockback and stun) (wings grow for the spell effect)

Bat swarm (AoE DoT) (bats bite enemies for the duration)

Blood craze (halves accuracy and parry and adds the experience bonus to the damage potency of the next attack. Only usable right after killing an enemy)

I'm really proud of that last one.

As for why is it called blue magic? Because vampires consider themselves above the foolish mortal distictions of white and black. Both in morality and in magic.

Okay, a question while we wait for the Live letter. If vampire would turn out to be its own class, or a special job like the 3.0 ones, what would it use as a weapon?

Scythe? Dual wielded sickles? A wip? A sword? A single dagger? Something else?

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Okay, a question while we wait for the Live letter. If vampire would turn out to be its own class, or a special job like the 3.0 ones, what would it use as a weapon?

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Maybe a rapier like the Red Mage in FFXI ?

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Maybe a rapier like the Red Mage in FFXI ?

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Or in every other FF. Well it could work for vampires as it would fit with their styles, but the rapier might be too iconic to give to a different job. Unless Red Mage becomes the job for a vampire class.

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Unless Red Mage becomes the job for a vampire class.

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Because they are blood red? ^^

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Because they are blood red? ^^

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And both like to dress as pimps. :D Thematically vampirism fits more with blue magic, but it could work with red as well. Yes, interactable vampires and red mages at the same time.

*sigh* Still no answer from Yoshie. At the very least he said that he wants more FFXI enemies to come up. Fingers crossed for Vampyr.

I was forced to discountinue my subscribtion, but I still occasionally look at the forums. And now I found a vampire class concept:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mpire-Job-Idea
And it was also mentioned in the Void Ark discussion that it might have vampires in it.

Of course zero soild evidence, but we have something to talk about at least.

"Vampire" isn't a class or a job.. it's an affliction/Monster type/race. Technically speaking, Vampires would likely be either Ashkin or even Voidsent. So... what are we talking about here?

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Well, you do have Lady Amandine (Haukke Manor).

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Yeah she comes up regulary in the discussion. You can see it if you look at the other pages. Oppinions are still divided wether she is a sadistic person, a succubus, or a vampire.

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She's a succubus. Just like all the other succubi (handmaidens, Halicarnassus) we have in the game, and the succubus minion...

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Lady_Amandine

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"Vampire" isn't a class or a job.. it's an affliction/Monster type/race. Technically speaking, Vampires would likely be either Ashkin or even Voidsent. So... what are we talking about here?



She's a succubus. Just like all the other succubi (handmaidens, Halicarnassus) we have in the game, and the succubus minion...

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Lady_Amandine

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Well as Bravely Default shows Vampires could in theory work as a class (a variation of Blue Mage) but yes they would likely be an NPC race if implemented. Most likely gravekin, like all undead. What we are talking about here is everything related to vampires in the game. Their likely origin, the way they are implemented, everything.

As for Lady Amandine, yes she is a succubus, not a vampire, despite her Elizabeth Bathory vibe. What causes the problem is that in the translations for 2D Final Fantasy games Succubus and vampire lady/girl was used for the same creature.

I was really hoping for the Void Ark to give us a few bloodsuckers, but no luck. Well unless Echidna's Bloodguards are vampires. Still between all the creepy voidsent and Diabolos's bats, this questline seems like to be the best candidate for future vampire sightings.

Aaaand we finally get something. Sure the Vampire's Vest was worn by imps pretending to be regular people dressed up as vampires, but at the very least we can confirm that people believe in vampires that look like stereotypical movie vampires.