The single biggest issue holding back FFXIV needs to be specifically addressed.

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Originally Posted by Darrkness

just curious.. how many posts/likes of the OP dose a thread need before a dev pops in to comment or update about the thread issue? so far this makes 79 posts and 92 likes on the OP...........

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they will say something when/if they get something to say from the devs.

Not that I'm expecting a response (I'm hoping for one) but... its the weekend bro.

Oh yeah LMAO.. haha i totally spaced that.. well come Monday they are gonna have a big thread to weed through LMAO

Not necessarily. Only important post in this thread is the OP.

- Kurokikaze

the online game connections are running UDP so there always going to be weird crap going on if there servers are only in japan it going to make it that much worse. nothing they can do about.

The network stack was quickly slapped on top of the engine, rather than developed with networking in mind.

Completely agree

Looking forward to PvP under these conditions!

until they fix this don't expect to see me in any of those areas lol

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Originally Posted by Ava

Looking forward to PvP under these conditions!

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I didn't even think of that...

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Originally Posted by Ava

Looking forward to PvP under these conditions!

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don't even go there...

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Originally Posted by Ava

Looking forward to PvP under these conditions!

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i won't be goin there.. lol

I mean i though that the lag on COD Black Ops was bad or even Modern Warfare 3 now i would prefer that lag to this

....wrong thread bro.

I support this thread wholeheartedly. Even though Im sure the development staff is fully aware of this it should take huge priority over most everything else IMO.

Good post =)

Maybe we can expect more servers when we start paying? It would be harder for them to have to host servers in other countries as well until they are actually pulling in revenue, no?

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Originally Posted by Risae

I don't think they will fix it until we have to pay our monthly fee.

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Originally Posted by Risae

Same here. I don't think it'll survive much longer without the money.

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Originally Posted by Darrkness

if that what it takes then by all means! i'm more than willing to pay for it or even have a donate button as long as i know that the money is going straight to fixing the game

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Originally Posted by Seif

That's a good idea. They could have an optional SE supporter paid subscription option. Give something small to those who contribute like +100 anima. SE is doing really bad financially and I'd rather support XIV developement than see them shut down the game completely.

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Originally Posted by Darrkness

besides the sooner they make it p2p the sooner the population can be thinned out to serious players.. yes i know that the population is sparse as is but some of you have to admit that most of the players are bored kids who don't care about the game or the story lore

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yeah it was already talked about earlier in the thread.. =)

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Originally Posted by Ava

Looking forward to PvP under these conditions!

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lol gonna be like whack a mole online! "I'm over here!" "NOPE too slow now I'm over here" "Hey mans why you no live?!!"

Ahahaha. I used to wonder why I'd be seeing folks hoping from place to place around me like a dysfunctional rabbit.

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Originally Posted by Celeras

I am, of course, talking about the horrid Server/Client relationship in Eorzea. These things happen to a very small extent in any online game, but to nowhere near the extremity of in FFXIV. All frustrating occurrences to say the least, and I think I'm being pretty kind phrasing it that way.

I've given nearly a year of leeway waiting for this to be fixed. It's crippling to all facets of gameplay, and quite frankly it's pretty darn embarrassing. All the content in the world won't make the game enjoyable if this has to be tolerated, and I shudder to think of the amplified effects it will have when we're moving at Chocobo speeds.

Every patch we hear about the 'server upgrades/optimizations', when are you going to get to the one that truly matters?

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I hear ya man, but I think this is the single biggest thing holding back XIV: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...r-of-Jobs-Devs

Server/client optimisation is number 2 on my list.

This is just one of those issues we won't get a response on, they'll ignore it until the cows come home or until people are willing to just accept it.

Anyone that has played MMOs very long knows how it goes.

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Originally Posted by Starflare

Not that I'm expecting a response (I'm hoping for one) but... its the weekend bro.

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didn't realize it till it was mentioned the devs most likely have the weekend off

They seriously need to do something about this. I notice it a lot when I'm depositing items to my retainer or when I try to auto follow someone. The delay is terrible.

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Originally Posted by Forerunner

I hear ya man, but I think this is the single biggest thing holding back XIV: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...r-of-Jobs-Devs

Server/client optimisation is number 2 on my list.

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Have fun trying to enjoy those jobs with the current state of the servers. :cool:

Thank you so much for posting this!

@Square Enix: Optimize the bloody game already! I can do without the new content, I want to finally play the game and experience SOME sense of "immersion" here!

OPTIMIZE IT!

You know it's funny, I actually feel sort of relieved to see this sort of video posted. Not because I think this is a good state for the game to be in, but because after having read several articles I know they are not only fully aware of this issue, but are also working hard to fix it. It would be one thing if I thought they were aware of it, but resigned to the possibility that they couldn't fix it. However, I assume that as Yoshie P. has been extremely forward and honest, and has stuck to his guns when it comes to the issues that really matter for the game, that this game is going to shape up well in the coming months and/or year. I look forward to the day when the combat system, which has been designed based on timing and strategy, can be enjoyed the way it was meant to be. Knowing this, I can really start to picture how the game will play when this issue is fixed. And it excites me greatly.

Definitely agreed with OP. This is the major source of all frustration and until this is fixed, the game is going nowhere..

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Originally Posted by Forerunner

I hear ya man, but I think this is the single biggest thing holding back XIV: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...r-of-Jobs-Devs

Server/client optimisation is number 2 on my list.

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I agree with that also, i think they are both equally important. I posted similar thread here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ead-of-classes

If these 2 things get fixed, i think the game will have much more going for it and they can pull the masses back easily.

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Originally Posted by Lairenor

You know it's funny, I actually feel sort of relieved to see this sort of video posted. Not because I think this is a good state for the game to be in, but because after having read several articles I know they are not only fully aware of this issue, but are also working hard to fix it. It would be one thing if I thought they were aware of it, but resigned to the possibility that they couldn't fix it. However, I assume that as Yoshie P. has been extremely forward and honest, and has stuck to his guns when it comes to the issues that really matter for the game, that this game is going to shape up well in the coming months and/or year. I look forward to the day when the combat system, which has been designed based on timing and strategy, can be enjoyed the way it was meant to be. Knowing this, I can really start to picture how the game will play when this issue is fixed. And it excites me greatly.

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you know thats funny i was just looking at latest footage of CoH and thinking about goin back... looking at my background screenshot of me and my friend that i took in max graphics setting and sighed at the potential then i decided to check up on the threads and read this.. its like you read my mind 51 min ago or something.....

its optimism like that is what gives me hope.. =)

http://youtu.be/SuG76leVAbo This video is a pretty funny take on the problem... I agree with the OP it is something that sticks out like a sore thumb

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Originally Posted by Resheph

http://youtu.be/SuG76leVAbo This video is a pretty funny take on the problem... I agree with the OP it is something that sticks out like a sore thumb

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hahaha that was absolutely awesome and yeah i totally feel the effects of the delay. its really terrible.

This is a pretty big issue, especially when you consider all the focus on restructuring the battle system. What this does is makes it a very difficult situation when you encounter various monsters that require your character to stand at certain positions at specific times. (Any abilities that require you to move to dodge the attack or cast at specific position will be affected.)

I would go as far as to say that it greatly limits the amount of monster abilities and different strategy that could be created by the developers, as well, because players cannot move in a timely manner to counter those abilities to implement that type of battle where monster abilities require reflex (or a fast counter strategy of any kind.)

This is not even the only area where the client to server handshake is ultimately slow and affects gameplay. But, it is a very clear presentation of an area that can and should be better, for both the player and the developing team.

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Originally Posted by Resheph

http://youtu.be/SuG76leVAbo This video is a pretty funny take on the problem... I agree with the OP it is something that sticks out like a sore thumb

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LOL

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Yoshida has not turned this game around. On the contrary, he's just creating a WOW clone. I used to be the biggest FF fangirl ever. Now, I can't wait to the day I hear the news about SE giving up on FFXIV, or merging everything into 3-4 servers because noone plays anymore. That will be my sweet revenge for crushing my dreams of a nice FFXIV

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Originally Posted by alexi14

Yoshida has not turned this game around. On the contrary, he's just creating a WOW clone.

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But I like logging into FFXIV and seeing all the orcs, dwarves, trolls, and gnomes running around, PvPing in the open world or in Battlefields, collecting XP for exploring new worlds, swimming in the water, or getting around on flying mounts in a seamless environment!

What? That's not in FFXIV at all? Oh wait, I must have been playing WoW.

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But I like logging into FFXIV and seeing all the orcs, dwarves, trolls, and gnomes running around, PvPing in the open world or in Battlefields, collecting XP for exploring new worlds, swimming in the water, or getting around on flying mounts in a seamless environment!

What? That's not in FFXIV at all? Oh wait, I must have been playing WoW.

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Orcs? Ixali! Dwarves? Lalas! Trolls? Just look at the forums! Gnomes? Just wait for the expansion! PvPing? A flamewar can hurt people way more than beating up their weak characters! XP for exploring new worlds? What for? Everyone is R50 already!
Blame yourself if you take me seriously <.<

This issue must be what causes that annoying situation for me in DH. Being a mage, I sometimes cant heal the tank who is 3ft in front me on a incline cos apparently they are "too far away".

Im adding my signature to this, in hope that the devs will see this and raise this issue with Yoshi, so we can get a response soon enough. Power of a united front - GO!

Did anyone bring up this topic in the japanese forums yet? There seems to be quicker replies there.

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Did anyone bring up this topic in the japanese forums yet? There seems to be quicker replies there.

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That's a very good idea.
Adding my signature. Please fix this. It makes playing a healer embarrassing.

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Originally Posted by Celeras

Yoshida has done a remarkable job turning this game around. Each and every patch things get better, yet one issue consistently remains with no end in sight. We've all experienced it, knowingly or not, because it has an influence on every single aspect of the game.

-Have you ever been running throughout town, and seen a character(or enemy) in front of you jump into the ceiling or through walls?
-Have you ever attempted to heal somebody running next to you, only to be told they're out of range?
-Have you ever seen an enemy go Red with nobody in sight, only to see a party member run up 5 seconds later and attack with a melee strike?
-Have you ever done DH and seen one of the Eyes charge up their stationary AoE far away from you, then proceed to watch it 'glide' along the floor while charging until its right on top of you?
-Or, perhaps, experienced something like this?

[SIZE="5"]*[/SIZE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIJCQs-R7X4 [SIZE="5"]*[/SIZE] (I thought they added youtube embedding? :/ )

An extremely simple video that I think adequately shows the very root of the problem. While the video itself may seem 'trivial', rest assured the cause behind it is the same as in all the above examples.

I am, of course, talking about the horrid Server/Client relationship in Eorzea. These things happen to a very small extent in any online game, but to nowhere near the extremity of in FFXIV. All frustrating occurrences to say the least, and I think I'm being pretty kind phrasing it that way.

I've given nearly a year of leeway waiting for this to be fixed. It's crippling to all facets of gameplay, and quite frankly it's pretty darn embarrassing. All the content in the world won't make the game enjoyable if this has to be tolerated, and I shudder to think of the amplified effects it will have when we're moving at Chocobo speeds.

Every patch we hear about the 'server upgrades/optimizations', when are you going to get to the one that truly matters?

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I have only seen that like in the first couple months of the game. I literally never see it anymore, so I naturally thought all of that got fixed. Now the other thing that still seems to happen to me for no reason is game crashes at the worst possible times and actually some areas are extremely laggy where they used to not be like around Nophica Wells Aetheryte point.