Again

=.= seriously again....

http://www.internetpulse.net/Main.aspx?Metric=PL

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...679dca0f015fdd

They are aware of it.... again.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

http://www.internetpulse.net/Main.aspx?Metric=PL

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I'm in Japan, but my characters are on NA date center servers (Aether & Primal Data centers) and yet I also am having the mass 90k issues. So I kind of don't believe this stuff about AT&T and whatnot.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

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Again, no issues with my internet connection when connecting to the JP datacenters.

Stop spreading this misinformation, our internet service providers have LESS THAN NOTHING to do with this problem.

shiva EU can't logon. were in dungen end of snowcloak then random freezes and lag, people dc , now finally dc and i get loby server error for 10m.

It's literally out of their hands.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

Again, no issues with my internet connection when connecting to the JP datacenters.

Stop spreading this misinformation, our internet service providers have LESS THAN NOTHING to do with this problem.

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Duh. Because those are US companies. That site is tracking packet loss for US. And as of right now, there is no dedicated EU server. EU uses US.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

It's literally out of their hands.

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I disagree. As a large corporation such as SE has resources, contacts and professional staff at their disposal who understand these issues and can work towards its resolution. This is not beyond SE to fix. Stop spouting useless misinformation.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Duh. Because those are US companies. That site is tracking packet loss for US. And as of right now, there is no dedicated EU server. EU uses US.

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So how do you explain my being in Japan using a Japanese ISP, and yet my characters are on NA servers and they are still affected by the 90k errors?

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Duh. Because those are US companies. That site is tracking packet loss for US. And as of right now, there is no dedicated EU server. EU uses US.

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I'm in the US, my ISP is in the US, I ONLY have issues when connection to the NA/EU databases, not any other server in the game nor any other part of the internet. Stop spreading misinformation. It is NOT (NOT) an issue with the ISPs.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

I disagree. As a large corporation such as SE has resources, contacts and professional staff at their disposal who understand these issues and can work towards its resolution. This is not beyond SE to fix. Stop spouting useless misinformation.

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No, this is out of their hands. its literally a DNS issue up the internet backbone. anything and everything that has servers in montreal is down, not just SE.

Level 3 probably had an outage. there are major storms going through the area, and I would not be surprised if the lines are buried under 5 feet of snow.

RIP Odin :(

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Originally Posted by Vespar

I disagree. As a large corporation such as SE has resources, contacts and professional staff at their disposal who understand these issues and can work towards its resolution. This is not beyond SE to fix. Stop spouting useless misinformation.



So how do you explain my being in Japan using a Japanese ISP, and yet my characters are on NA servers and they are still affected by the 90k errors?

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The world isn't so simple and convenient. Square is a tiny ant compared to these megaconglomerates.

As long as you're passing through specific areas of the US, you will encounter these issues. If you use a Japanese ISP and use a Japanese server, you won't have them.

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Originally Posted by tocsin

No, this is out of their hands. its literally a DNS issue up the internet backbone. anything and everything that has servers in montreal is down, not just SE.

Level 3 probably had an outage. there are major storms going through the area, and I would not be surprised if the lines are buried under 5 feet of snow.

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I'm sure if it was as simple as natural disasters causing outages in Montreal, SE should have made a statement by now relaying as much.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

I'm in the US, my ISP is in the US, I ONLY have issues when connection to the NA/EU databases, not any other server in the game nor any other part of the internet. Stop spreading misinformation. It is NOT (NOT) an issue with the ISPs.

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Because those servers are not connecting to the same destination. Which is Montreal.

The internet doesn't work like you think it does.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

I'm sure if it was as simple as natural disasters causing outages in Montreal, SE should have made a statement by now relaying as much.

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Having worked in Incident management for a major corporation before (hated that job!) I can say that likely they have not found that to be the problem yet. they only know that traffic isn't reaching over, and have probably called someone at level 3 to say "What is going on, can you please give us updates". other than that, they cant tell what it is, natural disaster, power outage, coffee spill, anything. they just have to wait for Level 3 to call them back and say "this is what happened, this is how its being resolved, this is when it will be fixed."

The person who types those errors, I feel for them. their life and job really sucks.

https://downdetector.com/status/level3/map/

Heck this site tends to be reliable when Optimum goes down, judging by the map it would appear they are having issues across the US which could be causing issues with the way the information is being sent and could explain why the lag is so sporadic.

Earlier in a dungeon 2 players d/ced and never came back, then the other d/ced and finally I d/ced, but before that we all had the DC mark but then the rate at which we disappeared honestly doesn't tie into the servers themselves but how the data was being lost. The two players had their data lost the most so they were later booted while me and the remaining player waited, while it appeared stable we soon lost our own packets and were d/ced.

"(CNN) -- The ice man cometh. And does so early this year, after a former Pacific typhoon flew up toward the Arctic and rammed the jet stream.
The stream has whipped south, dragging down frigid air from Canada over the northern Plains and Mountain States and the Upper Midwest, according to the National Weather Service.

It is already plunging temperatures below freezing there and will hammer them into the teens and single digits in many places by midweek, even lower in others.

Great Falls, Montana, will shiver at 9 below zero on Tuesday night.

It's the coldest weather of the season, the weather service said.
States expecting snow this week
What is the polar vortex?

Minneapolis could soon get a foot of snow, the service said, with the Minnesota city experiencing below-freezing temperatures that could last for eight days.

Residents in the northern United States can thank a whopping tropical cyclone in the Pacific Ocean for the wintry blast.

The remnants of super Typhoon Nuri rolled up north over Alaska's Aleutian Islands on Friday, kicking off the ripple of Arctic air in the other direction.

Nuri is now the strongest known Northern Pacific cyclone on record, according to the National Weather Service Ocean Prediction Center.

Its remnants plowed into cold air adding violent energy as it went north, similar to what Superstorm Sandy did in the Atlantic two years ago."

This is what is likely causing the problem and why we may see this trend of downed servers the rest of the week

Edit: I should note that my character picture beside my post just reverted to a completely different hairstyle and class than what it was when i was last logged in.

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I'm sure if it was as simple as natural disasters causing outages in Montreal, SE should have made a statement by now relaying as much.

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its like you are being willfully ignorant. multiple people have posted the information saying what is going wrong and that the problem isnt being caused by SE, but by packet(the data being sent/received) loss from your isp to nodes(roads for said data to go thru to get to where they need to) that are owned by a specific company that is known to have this problem all the time. please, at least read what people are saying, and not simply dismiss it because "I DEMAND SE FIX THIS BECAUSE REASONS".
literally dumbed it down to where my mom would understand who and what is causing the problem.

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http://i.imgur.com/pyU9nOT.jpg

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Originally Posted by Kaze3434

its like you are being willfully ignorant. multiple people have posted the information saying what is going wrong and that the problem isnt being caused by SE, but by packet(the data being sent/received) loss from your isp to nodes(roads for said data to go thru to get to where they need to) that are owned by a specific company that is known to have this problem all the time. please, at least read what people are saying, and not simply dismiss it because "I DEMAND SE FIX THIS BECAUSE REASONS".
literally dumbed it down to where my mom would understand who and what is causing the problem.

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Actually I wasn't demanding SE to do anything. I was requesting other users to stop posting unconfirmed misinformation, and it would seem my hunch was right it was a DDoS attack and not "packet loss" between American ISP's and their users.
And yeah... SOURCE:http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...c98757b05b88f3 So I guess I win the internets! :P

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Originally Posted by Kaze3434

its like you are being willfully ignorant. multiple people have posted the information saying what is going wrong and that the problem isnt being caused by SE, but by packet(the data being sent/received) loss from your isp to nodes(roads for said data to go thru to get to where they need to) that are owned by a specific company that is known to have this problem all the time. please, at least read what people are saying, and not simply dismiss it because "I DEMAND SE FIX THIS BECAUSE REASONS".
literally dumbed it down to where my mom would understand who and what is causing the problem.

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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...755.1415578618

End of argument. Sorry folks!

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Originally Posted by Vespar

And yeah... http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...c98757b05b88f3 So I guess you can eat your words lol?

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No, she is still correct and it's been reported numerous times. The current issue may be DDoS, but Level3.net has been causing issues for SE for the past year for numerous people. Also notice how her post said: "Not caused by SE", so regardless, she is still correct even in that regard, so there's no "words to be eaten", sorry Vespar.

http://www.dailydot.com/esports/psn-...t-ddos-attack/

Not SE.

Oh and this:

http://www.cnet.com/news/world-of-wa...-down-by-ddos/

Still not SE. Unless SE owns Blizzard, PSN, or Riot (League of Legends), everyone's getting some love from DDoS attacks.

Oh! M. Night Shyamlan twist! Level 3 is causing the DDoS attacks!

Wait, is that an M. Night Shyamlan twist? I'm not good at analogies.

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No, she is still correct and it's been reported numerous times. The current issue may be DDoS, but Level3.net has been causing issues for SE for the past year for numerous people. Also notice how her post said: "Not caused by SE", so regardless, she is still correct even in that regard, so there's no "words to be eaten", sorry Vespar.

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People kept saying in this thread that level3 had an outage... But SE has just confirmed this wasn't the case. So Im less inclined to believe the folks who kept providing "misinformation" which was again... MY ONLY argument towards people on here. Packet Loss and DDoS attacks are two entirely different things, though they may be apples and oranges to someone who has no clue. Which is why, rather than believing the misinformation, I requested folks wait to hear SE's word on the matter and it turns out my hunch was right.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

People kept saying in this thread that level3 had an outage... But SE has just confirmed this wasn't the case.

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That's the thing actually - Level3.net did have an outtage recently and is currently having spotty outtages, it just happens that wasn't the case for XIV the past 2 days, however people who say level3 causes issues are correct since that too has been confirmed by numerous companies, but level3 happens to be the biggest (and cost effective) data solution people use (and clearly a pretty solid contract that companies can't just sign out of.)

So people naturally pointed towards that because that has already been confirmed to be a problem with some MMOs and services recently.

Dang these servers crash alot... not cool

DDoS attacks

DDOS still has to go through hops. It doesn't just magically show up at the server... Since it seems the servers are near level 3 hops, it would make sense that a DDOS would end up both affecting the server AND level 3 traffic. Level 3 having issues is an indicator of either bad switches, or an overload. A DDOS powerful enough could cause the 2nd so if anything the level 3 issues were an indicator of a possible DDOS that was packeting through their hops.

Which in the end - still not SE's fault