Aboloshing Anima

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

I thought that's what we were doing...



If this is how you respond to people who disagree with you, you don't deserve to have your posts read by anyone.

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By now, I surely hope this thread deters you and 98% of the people who've posted in it from reading anything else I have to say. And that 2% does not come from the "Likes" I got in the OP. ~.~

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

By now, I surely hope this thread deters you and 98% of the people who've posted in it from reading anything else I have to say. And that 2% does not come from the "Likes" I got in the OP. ~.~

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Yes. You're only allowed to read Xoo's posts if you agree with him.

Fascist.

No, you're only allowed to reply if you've got nothing but cynical and tactless remarks in response to an honest proposition.

I'm not sure what that makes you.

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

No, you're only allowed to reply if you've got nothing but cynical and tactless remarks in response to an honest proposition.

I'm not sure what that makes you.

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sorry xoo, but you argue and insult everyone who doesnt agree or priase your thread

i even broke down your last threrad with a play by play comemntary on the OP, after you complained i wasnt contributing, and then you complained that i didnt agree with you or reply the exact way you wanted me to

you just arent happy with anyone who replys to you who isnt fully on your side

Do what the Amish do. You don't like technology or society or cars or anything that makes life convenient, go live your life inconveniently. I guarantee you you'll be happily inconvenienced in your own little world walking everywhere as if it's the 1800s and nobody will care.

Nobody is stopping you from playing the game your way.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

sorry xoo, but you argue and insult everyone who doesnt agree or priase your thread

i even broke down your last threrad with a play by play comemntary on the OP, after you complained i wasnt contributing, and then you complained that i didnt agree with you or reply the exact way you wanted me to

you just arent happy with anyone who replys to you who isnt fully on your side

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you mean you trolled the s#%t out of his last thread, nobody wanted in there and you stayed cause you thought the aggro was hilarious.

Just as he's done here, and you notice he was the first to post? Gotta get that post count!

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

Just as he's done here, and you notice he was the first to post? Gotta get that post count!

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if you go to his account and check his post you'll see that most of them are all about jumping in and arguing the s#*t out of anything and everything he can. He should put his effort towards coming up with his own ideas.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

if you go to his account and check his post you'll see that most of them are all about jumping in and arguing the s#*t out of anything and everything he can. He should put his effort towards coming up with his own ideas.

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Arguing? No dude, arguing is where you take a legitimate stance. This guy just talks through the side of his neck.

trolling is when someone purposely posts stuff to get a rise out of people, etc etc just messing with people

When i posted clues as to my camp and told you to go find them yourself, that was a 100% legit post, i meant it

your response was to flame the hell out of me cuz you couldnt deal with it

then when i added commentary on the camps you had listed so far, you flamed me even more cuz you didnt like the fact i commented on your camps at all

sorry if im straight forward and blunt about things, and im not afraid to say things people just dont like or agree with, but im here, and you have to deal with it

i dont flame people, i dont sit there and insult them nonstop like most of you seem to LOVE to do.
I argue yes, but who doesnt, i also like to do something called discussing

and believe it or not, ALOT of people find my posts to be very informative(the ones that arent in response to the people who just cant seem to get over the fact i dont jump on whatever bandwagon they are riding atm like is going on here)
and its for those people i post, not for those of you who seem to want me gone cuz im not agreeing with you

I disagree with Vedis on a lot of stuff, but fair is fair. You instantly get belligerent when anyone disagrees with you, Xoo.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

trolling is when someone purposely posts stuff to get a rise out of people, etc etc just messing with people

When i posted clues as to my camp and told you to go find them yourself, that was a 100% legit post, i meant it

your response was to flame the hell out of me cuz you couldnt deal with it

then when i added commentary on the camps you had listed so far, you flamed me even more cuz you didnt like the fact i commented on your camps at all

sorry if im straight forward and blunt about things, and im not afraid to say things people just dont like or agree with, but im here, and you have to deal with it

i dont flame people, i dont sit there and insult them nonstop like most of you seem to LOVE to do.
I argue yes, but who doesnt, i also like to do something called discussing

and believe it or not, ALOT of people find my posts to be very informative(the ones that arent in response to the people who just cant seem to get over the fact i dont jump on whatever bandwagon they are riding atm like is going on here)
and its for those people i post, not for those of you who seem to want me gone cuz im not agreeing with you

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i do recall you mentioning how you get a kick out of people getting so angry in that thread. i think some of the comments may have gotten wiped so i wont bother looking for the quote.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

I disagree with Vedis on a lot of stuff, but fair is fair. You instantly get belligerent when anyone disagrees with you, Xoo.

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we all have opinions, and not everyone shares them
discussing is the way to go instead of yelling and screaming and insulting everyone(another user uses this method alot, his name is dubont, and look at where it gets him, no where and a ton of closed thread and temp forum bans)

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

i do recall you mentioning how you get a kick out of people getting so angry in that thread. i think some of the comments may have gotten wiped so i wont bother looking for the quote.

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im allowed to get a kick out of it, if something is funny its funny(and the way some of you react is downright hilarious, its like the world revolves around you and the game was supposed to be made to cater to your every whim regardless of what anyone else thinks)
doesnt change the fact my posts are 100% serious and not trolling

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

I disagree with Vedis on a lot of stuff, but fair is fair. You instantly get belligerent when anyone disagrees with you, Xoo.

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actually my first post in this thread was disagreeing and i did not fall under attack. I would not mnid a temp anima boost until the rest of the transportation issues are sorted out but i dont think anima should be unlimited. The vedis main argument is it should stay the way it is but he dual boxes so why does his opinion even matter when he is not playing the game the same way as the rest of us. This thread is for people with 100 anima not 1000.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

im allowed to get a kick out of it, if something is funny its funny(and the way some of you react is downright hilarious, its like the world revolves around you and the game was supposed to be made to cater to your every whim regardless of what anyone else thinks)
doesnt change the fact my posts are 100% serious and not trolling

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so your saying you get amusement how people are getting angry because of your statements. OK, guess i check my definition of troll along with cheating.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

so your saying you get amusement how people are getting angry because of your statements. OK, guess i check my definition of troll along with cheating.

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not just my statements, people who get angry at anyone and just go off on them in the forums
its hilarious some of you get so mad over what people write

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

I disagree with Vedis on a lot of stuff, but fair is fair. You instantly get belligerent when anyone disagrees with you, Xoo.

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Instantly? No, ma'am. Check my reply post when Foxbat initially disagreed with me in the Grind Camps thread. You cited it yourself and defended me in the same respect. Now, you've turned the tables and still haven't read the OP. So now you're disagreeing with me and agreeing with Foxbat. Sounds like a personal problem to me.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

not just my statements, people who get angry at anyone and just go off on them in the forums
its hilarious some of you get so mad over what people write

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People get angry because your responses have absolutely no tact at all -- and you think that's funny. Disagree or agree, it's like you're talking to a child when you respond to something.

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

People get angry because your responses have absolutely no tact at all -- and you think that's funny. Disagree or agree, it's like you're talking to a child when you respond to something.

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why should you care if i respond with tact or not
but pointing it out and then insulting people over it is obviously the answer
or telling people they need to speak english
or calling thjem childish

because obviously, the one saying all that is the one thats correct and the one who points out that someone is being insulting to others is obviously the childish/ignorant/tactless/insulting person right?

now where is the dev to shut this trash thread down

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

actually my first post in this thread was disagreeing and i did not fall under attack. I would not mnid a temp anima boost until the rest of the transportation issues are sorted out but i dont think anima should be unlimited. The vedis main argument is it should stay the way it is but he dual boxes so why does his opinion even matter when he is not playing the game the same way as the rest of us. This thread is for people with 100 anima not 1000.

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Exactly! Anyone with a dualbox+ is almost undoubtedly going to be biased because it's of no real concern to them as it is for other people. However, if it were, Foxbat might have a clue as to what I'm talking about.

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

Exactly! Anyone with a dualbox+ is almost undoubtedly going to be biased because it's of no real concern to them as it is for other people. However, if it were, Foxbat might have a inkling as to what I'm talking about.

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i had no problems with it BEFORE i started dual boxing either, and people were complaining just as bad about it back then too

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

i had no problems with it BEFORE i started dual boxing either, and people were complaining just as bad about it back then too

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obviously you did have a problem with it cause you wound up getting 10 accounts ad use all the anima you can.

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

Instantly? No, ma'am. Check my reply post when Foxbat initially disagreed with me in the Grind Camps thread. You cited it yourself and defended me in the same respect. Now, you've turned the tables and still haven't read the OP. So now you're disagreeing with me and agreeing with Foxbat. Sounds like a personal problem to me.

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Like I said, sometimes I disagree with Vedis. This time I do not. Just because I disagree with someone once doesn't mean I will always disagree with them no matter what.

It's people like you that are the reason why politics is so screwed up in democratic nations.

And I DID READ YOUR OP. For flux sake's, man...

It's called respect. You learn it early on in life if you ever expect to gain respect yourself. Your tactless posts evoke my anger, and as someone said earlier, "You started it".

at this point i am expecting a dev to jump in so would a dev please elaborate on SE's stance on people running multiple accounts at the same time to use dif characters anima on their main character and people having their mules tag along on quest, leves, and behest for extra gil rewards then transferring the gil to their main account. If SE can confirm this is legitimate game play then i will say it is not cheating.

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

It's called respect. You learn it early on in life if you ever expect to gain respect yourself. Your tactless posts evoke my anger, and as someone said earlier, "You started it".

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And you expect people to respect you after you hurl insults at anyone who disagrees with you?

There's a concept called "being the bigger man". If you think someone is being rude to you, sinking to their alleged level is not the answer.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

obviously you did have a problem with it cause you wound up getting 10 accounts ad use all the anima you can.

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nope, the mules were created so that i could start storing materials for future use and to sell more then 20 items at a time on my retainers

later on i figured i may as well get them the teleport points too, at which point i started to go a little overboard with it

you assume alot about what i am doing without knowing any facts

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Like I said, sometimes I disagree with Vedis. This time I do not. Just because I disagree with someone once doesn't mean I will always disagree with them no matter what.

It's people like you that are the reason why politics is so screwed up in democratic nations.

And I DID READ YOUR OP. For flux sake's, man...

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Read it again, and then leave. :D

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

nope, the mules were created so that i could start storing materials for future use and to sell more then 20 items at a time on my retainers

later on i figured i may as well get them the teleport points too, at which point i started to go a little overboard with it

you assume alot about what i am doing without knowing any facts

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in an earlier post i said i will not assume you do any of the things you dont admit to. The things a mentioned are things people do in general.

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

Read it again, and then leave. :D

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Yeah, you deserve everyone's respect...

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

Exactly! Anyone with a dualbox+ is almost undoubtedly going to be biased because it's of no real concern to them as it is for other people. However, if it were, Foxbat might have a clue as to what I'm talking about.

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I do not dualbox and I think the anima system is fine the way it is. I do believe that the system will need a change after different methods of transportation are available, but in the other direction. I believe we should be halved to 50 from 99.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

And you expect people to respect you after you hurl insults at anyone who disagrees with you?

There's a concept called "being the bigger man". If you think someone is being rude to you, sinking to their alleged level is not the answer.

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Not anyone who disagrees with me. Just you and Foxbat - because Foxbat couldn't give a good reason not to do something to save your life, and you can't give a good reason, (at least in this thread), unless Foxbat gives you one. Guess you're doomed?

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Originally Posted by Darium

I do not dualbox and I think the anima system is fine the way it is. I do believe that the system will need a change after different methods of transportation are available, but in the other direction. I believe we should be halved to 50 from 99.

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Darium, how often would you say you play?

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

Darium, how often would you say you play?

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I play 4-5 hours a day, 7 days a week.

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

Not anyone who disagrees with me. Just you and Foxbat - because Foxbat couldn't give a good reason not to do something to save your life, and you can't give a good reason, (at least in this thread), unless Foxbat gives you one. Guess you're doomed?

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What a ridiculous line of thinking. I agree with Vedis, therefore I'm not forming my own opinion about the topic?

By that logic, I can say the only reason syntaxlies is supporting you here is because you both play on Mysidia.

Im an addict player
i play 10+ hours a day and i dont have anima problems
but before people jump on me more about my extra characters to do it let me explain how much i actualy use

Per 36 hours: 8 anima for leves(2 more then what regens)
if i didnt have the mules id run to drybone and then to bw instead, taking an extra 10 minutes, and cut out 4 of that)

per 24 hours: 6 to go to iron lake and back to gather(if hala was usable id be doing it there, this is a recent change for me which will go back to the way it was monday)


so i use 14 a day right now....which goes down to 6 a day or so(averaging on monday that i really "want/need" to use and this is with my heavy playstyle)

thats a tad over what i actualy get back from regening it, which means i can go close to 2 months before i had to take time off and fully run everything to let it regen

and most people do ALOT less then i do, and the fact you can group with other people who can use their anima to get you where you need to go means its even easier to get around without using it up





but in the end, my main concern with anima usage....its a checks and balance issue, it goes hand in hand with gear damage, the fact you have to level to 50 and dont start at 50, and why bosses are hard and you actualy gotta take the time to kill them, or farm materials for your synths instead of getting them all for free

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

What a ridiculous line of thinking. I agree with Vedis, therefore I'm not forming my own opinion about the topic?

By that logic, I can say the only reason syntaxlies is supporting you here is because you both play on Mysidia.

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You can say whatever you like, as long as I say you can.

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

You can say whatever you like, as long as I say you can.

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wow, just wow

To the OP

If anima is to be removed, then I'd suggest something like this.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...t-an-Aetheryte