Discuss new relic upgrade

10 brilliant, 1 blinding, 8 gentle, 3 feeble, no aetheric progress so far.
welp, gonna keep at it.

From what I've read it seems that the following are more or less confirmed (feel free to correct or add to this):

TENTATIVE 1: Since we've seen content that gives Newborn Star also give Blinding Light, but not the other way around; I'll assume that Newborn Star is the max reward at this point.
TENTATIVE 2: I've also noticed that certain content can either give the max reward or a tier below, for example: Syrcus Tower has given Newborn Star or Blinding Light, but not Brilliant Light. If there is in fact a fatigue system, it is possible after several attempts at same content the rewards start to go lower in tier.

MAX REWARDS (in order of possible importance):

- Syrcus Tower / The Labyrinth of the Ancients give Newborn Star.
- Expert Roulettes give Blinding Light.
- Main Scenario Roulettes give Blinding Light.
- The Second Coil of Bahamut Turns give Blinding Light.
- Primal Battles (HM and EX) give Blinding Light. Confirm if all Trials follow this rule.
- Lower level roulettes give Brilliant Light.
- Brayflox Longstop (Hard) gives Brilliant Light.
- The Binding Coil of Bahamut Turns give Bright Light.
- Unhidden Treasure Maps give Gentle Light.
- FATEs give Feeble Light.
- The Hunt marks give no message of progression.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

This is probably the best upgrade step. It's just "Use your weapon in any content", what a novel idea.

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Well my question was do they force fates upon you like pretty much every new content they add, give me a free sword se to impale myself with if it's the case

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Originally Posted by BloodPact

MAX REWARDS:

- Syrcus Tower / The Labyrinth of the Ancients give Newborn Star.
- Expert Roulettes give Blinding Light.
- Lower level roulettes give Brilliant Light.
- FATEs give Feeble Light.
- Unhidden Treasure Maps give Gentle Light.
- Trials give Bright Light.

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Got Bright in T4 and T5.

Did one HM Tam and got blinding light.

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Originally Posted by Coatl

Did one HM Tam and got blinding light.

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Selected dungeon or through Expert Roulette?

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Originally Posted by Maero

Well my question was do they force fates upon you like pretty much every new content they add, give me a free sword se to impale myself with if it's the case

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Lol well in that case no, you do not have to deal with fates unless you want to.

I think the picture of the weapon is what shows the progress and the words will only change once its full. Heres 2 screenshots. The first is before i did any content. and the second is when you first open it it showns it in full light for a second.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...17415721_o.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...32840189_o.jpg

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Originally Posted by BloodPact

- Lower level roulettes give Brilliant Light

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Those 6 minute Zergflox runs seem like they will be the go-to quick way to upgrade again, because of the time/investment ratio. If I can run 5 Bray HM in half an hour and get 5 blinding lights with a pre-made, that sure sounds like it trumps one newborn star upgrade from a syrcus tower in 30-60min time (depending on your group)

Oh and I didn't mistake the timing, in full i110 the entire dungeon can easily be completed in 6 mins with an efficient group.

Anyone spammed the same instance to see if there is diminshing returns yet?

Also, great observation Ulath.

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Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter

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Well, that second screenshot was taken before the relic completely fades to black, so it's not entirely accurate. I'm fairly sure the text will change when there is an actual change though.

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Originally Posted by BloodPact

Selected dungeon or through Expert Roulette?

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Got it from Expert Roullete. I did main scenario too and that one gave me brilliant light.

Going on the assumption that Ulath is right, I took some screenshots to try to capture throughout the day. Initially, I thought I saw change....

Will update with more information when i have it.

Update - After grinding today, I didn't see any change. =/

I am so disappointed in the White Mage Nexus. It looks just like the Animus. :(

Mine so far:
Syrcus Tower
The Stardust Rod Novus emits a blinding light!
The Stardust Rod Novus emits a blinding light!

Brayflox Longstep (Hard)
The Stardust Rod Novus emits a brilliant light!
The Stardust Rod Novus emits a brilliant light!
The Stardust Rod Novus emits a brilliant light!

FATE: Northern Thanalan
The Stardust Rod Novus emits a feeble light.
The Stardust Rod Novus emits a feeble light.
The Stardust Rod Novus emits a feeble light.

Expert Roulette: Tam-Tara Deepcroft (Hard)
The Stardust Rod Novus emits a brilliant light!

Alexandrite Map
The Stardust Rod Novus emits a gentle light.

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Originally Posted by Scura

I am so disappointed in the White Mage Nexus. It looks just like the Animus. :(

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I personally think it looks more like the Zenith.

OK. Found a more organized and easier to keep track of and update thread + doc here. Please contribute as you go through your quest:
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...e_ffxiv_relic/

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Originally Posted by Kiara1

I accidentally melded 3 skillspeed instead of spellspeed cause I was tired and didn't read

and if I want to remove them I need to meld EVERYTHING again.

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No, the NPC that sells the scrolls can eliminate the infuses you don't want one by one.

Does the new sphere scroll have room for more slots or will the secondary skills stay the same on the nexus?

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Originally Posted by Estellios

Lol well in that case no, you do not have to deal with fates unless you want to.

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Hooray, gods be praised, haha

Just cleared Ramuh Extreme ( my first Extreme with Novus for Nexus )
Got this message: The Veil of Wiyu Novus emits a bright light.

Just did an ST run that took over 35 mins, still only got a Blinding Light and not a 'New-born Star' bright

Only getting a gentle light from trial roulettes now. Back to back garuda then ifrit.

edit add Titan hm as well. all gentle light. Must go down the more people do it. Probably works kind of like the adventurer in need on roulettes. The things getting done the least start giving better returns.

Peisteskin treasure map emits a feeble light.

you need gold on fate for any credit, and it was all freebie. Extreme and DR Expert was brilliant, and Coil turn 1 was just below in scare, turn 6+ and Ramuh should yield the best credit

I did ST /DR /T6 and no light at all

help

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Originally Posted by dark0past

I did ST /DR /T6 and no light at all

help

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have you talk to Jalzhan after completed the quest to seal your weapon?

I noticed this shortly after I got home from work and completed the Soulglazing quest, but the spiritbond percentage is missing from the Novus tooltip now.

I have a feeling that this is exactly as it seems to be, and that doing higher level content will net you a greater effect on your way to upgrading your Novus. The question being with this one is whether or not SE expects anyone to be able to upgrade to Nexus prior to 2.4 (if so, I intend to try) or if they're simply making this not possible (in which case, I won't waste my time spamming roulettes/ST).

It also comes to mind that after several attempts of completing duties and receiving the "Light" notice, upon checking through the Zodiac Glass the Novus still says it "exhibits no aetheric activity." This could be that the latter of my previous paragraph is true (that it'll take a long time to complete it, therefore it takes a long time to see any progress through the Glass) or that the former could be true (and that the Glass won't yield a positive report until you're actually finished with the bonding process).

EDIT: Another thing I noticed is that when you first use your Zodiac Glass you'll see the icons of whatever your Novus is with the visage of what the Nexus will be. This image quickly goes completely black and then slowly phases back in as a dimly colored version. I'm expecting this "icon" to be an indicator of progress. I wouldn't doubt SE is using this as a measure of how much "Light" your Novus has "attuned".

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Originally Posted by Klamor

I noticed this shortly after I got home from work and completed the Soulglazing quest, but the spiritbond percentage is missing from the Novus tooltip now.

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Ah good catch. I just looked and mine no longer shows a spirit bond percentage either. I was at 100% spiritbond before the patch. I just got it about a week ago and it stuck in my head since I though to myself that may be useful for the next upgrade. I think all we are doing is secretly spiritbonding them again and SE didnt want to make it seem that simple .

I haven't read through this entire thread so I'm not sure if any said this or not but if you look at the screen box when you open the Zodiac Glass, the picture of the relic is blacked out (unlike on Animus books, where it shows a color picture of the relic) - I think that possibly our progress will be measured through that - like the relic picture will fill in as we soul bond it - an obvisouly this will take awhile.

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Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter

Ah good catch. I just looked and mine no longer shows a spirit bond percentage either. I was at 100% spiritbond before the patch. I just got it about a week ago and it stuck in my head since I though to myself that may be useful for the next upgrade. I think all we are doing is secretly spiritbonding them again and SE didnt want to make it seem that simple .

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either exactly this, or else the brighter the light, the higher chance it will exhibit a change xD

It's either a simple SBing , or it's atma 2.

And given the amount of lame mystery surrounding this, I'm guess it is something lame and unoriginal and recycled but SE just didn't want to let us know that xD.

Message says indistinct after a certain amount of progress.

T6 - Blinding light
T7 - Blinding light
T8 - Blinding light

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http://imgur.com/a/WYFG4
You need 2000 Light on your weapon to finish soul attunement.

I'll update these values as I figure out more but so far:
Feeble: 1 Light
Gentle: 4 Light
Brilliant: ?
Blinding: 8 Light
Newborn Star: ?
Tiers:
'No Activity': 0 - 199
'Indisctinct Activity': 200-399
'Faint Activity': 400-599
'Slight Activity': 600-799
'Modest Activity': 800-999
'Distinct Activity': 1000-1199
'Robust Activity': 1200-1399
'Vigorous Activity': 1400-1599
'Intense Activity': 1600-1799
'Extreme Activity': 1800-1999
'Bursting Activity': 2000+ (Complete)

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Someone did the data mining.

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

Someone did the data mining.

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Any idea from where this individual gathered these numbers, or where he found the value of the separate categories of "light"? Just asking as I'd like to know the source.

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Originally Posted by Klamor

Any idea from where this individual gathered these numbers, or where he found the value of the separate categories of "light"? Just asking as I'd like to know the source.

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I hope it's true better than my doubts about is it being RNG I could of sworn I received a different result each time I did the same dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Elven

I hope it's true better than my doubts about is it being RNG I could of sworn I received a different result each time I did the same dungeon.

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My guess, it depends how many people are running certain content and how much it is in need.

So the best way to grind this is to spam ST?

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Originally Posted by zar

So the best way to grind this is to spam ST?

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Actually T4 is probably going to turn out best I'd imagine... 4-6 minutes per 4 light stats... you can get twice as much light easily from that in the same amount of time a ST run would.

When I killed t9, ramuh and titan ex it said "emits a Bright Light" i don't see "bright light" in the list...

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Originally Posted by zar

So the best way to grind this is to spam ST?

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Seems that way if indeed it's a quota you're filling and no specific conditions.