What do you guys think of people buying gil?

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Originally Posted by Amberion

He would still have to have given out enough information or gotten infected by a trojan. Also, you are comparing it to a time when banks or companies had hardly any clue about Internet security.

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exactly meaning confirming your own account being Hijacked, it wouldn't be too hard to have them put the confirm for credit card and at the same time trojan you.

If you weren't buying gil to begin with then it wouldn't of happened so yes it has everything to do with buying gil. I would say the chances of you not getting hacked are slim, because RMT they will snatch the account take your gil then sell it, then steal account take their gil sell it. that's how they operate.

Just remember FFXI sites that did the same stuff back then, also about the security companies knowing more, I don't think they do, I hear people getting jacked even using the auth. key codes and Sony and letsplay and all these game companies had security breaches even valve recently.

yes they improve but so do scumbags.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFvIdTbaMhA

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I would say the chances of you not getting hacked are slim, because RMT they will snatch the account take your gil then sell it, then steal account take their gil sell it. that's how they operate.

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You have to remember that they are a business, doing that would not be good for them. And while there exist those shady once that would probably do that, they are the minority.

It's a lot easier for them to just bot/farm or buy from players, then it is to hack accounts. Not only that, RMT is legal. Why would they risk everything by doing something illegal like hacking accounts?

So while the risk exist, it's very small.

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Originally Posted by HeroSamson

First thing (SE) should have done was made GIL Un Tradable, the only way to get it would be the Auction House or Vendor, set a Limit on the Auction House low levels cannot sell anything over 30k until they hit 50 which unless higher selling prices.

Even bags of bronze, Silver and Gold pouches cant be traded. that's how I would stop them.

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If SE did that how do you expect people to buy large houses if you couldnt trade gil?

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

Except that it DOES affect my game. if no one bought gil, server economies wouldn't suck. If no one bought gil, I wouldn't have to deal with spam tells harassing me.

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This.

If I ever found out someone I know bought gil, I'd promptly black list and report them. By buying gil from RMTs you're saying that you support spam and hacking accounts.

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Originally Posted by PrimeEvilPanda

Now if the majority of the gil buyers could please post in this thread and voice their opinion, that would be greaaaat...oh wait

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http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...s_perspective/

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if you ban the buyers and make it known that buyers will be banned, rather then ban sellers, people will think twice because they would pay real life money and then get banned thus a net real life loss....and for some people it is still alot of money even if a few dollars.

Remove buyers and sellers will disappear. If there is no demand, what is the point in having the offer right ?.

What amazes me though, is the number of gil sellers banned, it is very very low. Only a few hundreds, when me alone on one server I have my black list full of ..only gil sellers, me alone I have 200 gil sellers blocked. I have informed SE that my black list is only and exclusively full of gil sellers..They are still there ...so really I find it amazing that within the number of servers and the like only 400 or so gil sellers are banned now and then when they decide to check. Fact is there is no real will as such to remove them from the game, this is my perception of course.

Mei

The best way to fight against gil sellers is giving the players no reason to buy gil.
Like during 1.0, where a leve reward gave you around 10k gil and sometimes even 50k gil or 100k gil (with revalue the reward of a new leve through already finished leves). And the only real gil sink at launch was the NPC repair, with repair cost of 80k gil for a level 45+ gear (and it only got repaired up to 50%). Many people just gave the next crafter 5k gil for a 100% repair.

Of course we would then have inflation, because more people would have enough gil to stabilize many items at a high price.

I personally don't care if people are willing to risk their accounts for gil (that in effect does nothing but buy gear which is arguably 3rd best, or houses), as long as it's from a 3rd party site or another player. I would however rage if SE offered some way of supplying players with gil through additional cash on-top of a subscription fee.

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

200/200 on my blacklist and not one of them is banned yet.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

I have my black list full of ..only gil sellers, me alone I have 200 gil sellers blocked. I have informed SE that my black list is only and exclusively full of gil sellers..They are still there

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How do you know they're not banned? If you're waiting for the names to be marked "Deleted", or for SE to remove the names from your list, it will never happen. When SE bans an account, they do not delete the account, and they do not alter anyone's blacklist. This prevents the gilsellers from reusing the names of banned characters. The only way to tell if a blacklisted character has been banned is to remove that name from your blacklist and see if you still get messages from them.

Delete the top 100 or so names from your list, and I can pretty much guarantee they're all banned by now (if they were all on your blacklist for being gil spammers).

If they aren't banned they are at least throw away characters and won't be used again.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

Delete the top 100 or so names from your list, and I can pretty much guarantee they're all banned by now (if they were all on your blacklist for being gil spammers).

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Didn't know that, thanks. :) But still, the fact I even had 200 gil spammers on my blacklist says something in itself.