The Grand Companies Are Coming! (07/15/2011)

Im a Botanist so hope there is stuff for me to do.

For Gridania!

Looks good, only thing I'm *slightly* disappointed about is that rather than building cool-looking company HQs into the cities they're instancing them off separately with the wards. Whatever though, that's easily changeable in the future (this could be temporary, considering they've mentioned redesigning the cities to an extent with the other maps.)

Excited to see how it turns out, don't let us down SE!

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Originally Posted by Starlord

*uses Feint to back up* ( Which is not avoidable*) =)

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Damn you, and I forgot my stoneskin :(

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

:3 ok that enough of spams we make, overall grand companies.. i'll pledge my loyalty to err.... The Order of the Twin Adder!! :X Long live Guridania!!!

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Awww do we have to, but The Immortal Flames will save you poor Gridanians if we have to I guess.

maybe its the golden patch after all :3

Wait does this seal business mean that they're all repeatable like leves and have no story like the leves (except for that flavor box)?

After all this time it's even harder to keep expectations low.

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Originally Posted by Seif

Wait does this seal business mean that they're all repeatable like leves and have no story like the leves (except for that flavor box)?

After all this time it's even harder to keep expectations low.

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it means they are very likely to be like imperial standing, assault points or allied notes.

I'll stay with Gridania. Our leader is a girl with horns. HORNS. The battle is over before it begins.

We will also Most likely get to hear another FFXIV theme in the Grand Companies area =)

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Originally Posted by Starlord

We will also Most likely get to hear another FFXIV theme in the Grand Companies area =)

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Hope so! :D

I imagine it'll be largely like the campaign system of FFXI eventually. We'll be getting hamlet defence in the end, and chocobo escorts etc which is all likely to be related to this company system. We'll also have these things coming for recruits in 1.18, which I imagine will fit the role of campaign ops.

Looking good!

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Originally Posted by Sephr

I imagine it'll be largely like the campaign system of FFXI eventually. We'll be getting hamlet defence in the end, and chocobo escorts etc which is all likely to be related to this company system. We'll also have these things coming for recruits in 1.18, which I imagine will fit the role of campaign ops.
Looking good!

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And Beast-tribes Stronghold assault. I think they should also put Empire patrols (normal and NM) around, with guarded checkpoints.

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Originally Posted by Munba

Hope so! :D

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I'd Imagine this could be it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBgqv...eature=related

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

Thing that has me a little worried about Grand Companies is that Yoshi never lists FFXI in his list of games he has played, which is fine, but I guess I am personally hoping to see more FFXI-esque or -inspired content (e.g., Assault, Salvage, Nyzul). I am afraid, given his experiences, he might go more the WoW, Rift, that-type-of-mmo route for content. You could argue, "Well some content is better than no content (which is the current case)". And you would be right, but I don't want any content, I want good content. To me the latter isn't good. I rather wait longer for something inspired then churned out go-fetch quests with over-powered rewards (reminds me of when I did first Burning Crusades quests and the armor was 20xs stronger then the stuff I had).

Anyway, those are my concerns, I hope my instincts are wrong and they end up creating an awesome new system.

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Everyone keeps mentioning/hoping it will be similar to past FFXI content but based on Yoshi's experiences I don't think it will.

hopefully they do more with this, i think FFXI did it interestingly, having a constant reason to help out your country (opens up some shops and outposts for warps) I want to see this be more then just a glorified quest system with tokens.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

I'd Imagine this could be it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBgqv...eature=related

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Very triumphal indeed and probably suitable.

Or maybe this (one of the first in the official site): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8doI-...eature=related

Gonna have to be Limsa for me. Nothing like working under a strong woman with authority :p In all seriousness though it's where the Musketeer's guild is and they have boat magic. What else could one want?

As far as "Will it be like XI?" goes, from how people are explaining it I don't see how it could be different. There are many games that do similar things though so it's not just from XI. Join faction, do missions for faction, accrue currency and renown in said faction, redeem for stuff, do more missions, etc.... It's not exactly a new thing though there are a variety of ways to handle it I suppose.

At any rate it doesn't sound like bad content so to me that's good content.

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Originally Posted by Picoman

Im a Botanist so hope there is stuff for me to do.

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You can hand out flowers while the Miqo'te in the granny panties dances in front of a goobbue.

If they're REALLY smart, they will pace these Grand Company storyline missions slowly from Rank 22 - 50+

From a content perspective, i'd rather see thirty main storyline missions at one per level,
Than a 22 one, 32 one, 42 one, and 27 top rank ones,
as the former would create a legitimate content based progress to rank 50.

But hey, in any case, i am looking forward to this.

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Originally Posted by Munba

Very triumphal indeed and probably suitable.

Or maybe this (one of the first in the official site): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8doI-...eature=related

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That could very well be as well... or maybe both plays 1 as the actual theme, and one plays when you come back from a Succeeded mission? =)

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Gonna have to be Limsa for me. Nothing like working under a strong woman with authority :p In all seriousness though it's where the Musketeer's guild is and they have boat magic. What else could one want?

As far as "Will it be like XI?" goes, from how people are explaining it I don't see how it could be different. There are many games that do similar things though so it's not just from XI. Join faction, do missions for faction, accrue currency and renown in said faction, redeem for stuff, do more missions, etc.... It's not exactly a new thing though there are a variety of ways to handle it I suppose.

At any rate it doesn't sound like bad content so to me that's good content.

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It certainly doesn't sound bad, I think it was a great system in XI and would have made the cut if they took the best parts of that game to make the new one.

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Originally Posted by NefarioCall

If they're REALLY smart, they will pace these Grand Company storyline missions slowly from Rank 22 - 50+

From a content perspective, i'd rather see thirty main storyline missions at one per level,
Than a 22 one, 32 one, 42 one, and 27 top rank ones,
as the former would create a legitimate content based progress to rank 50.

But hey, in any case, i am looking forward to this.

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Yeah I hope for something similar. It would've been nice if the missions that stopped at rank 15 had carried on via the companies, but honestly I'm not sure that would work now considering you can select any company no matter where you start, unless they simply accommodate for that in the storyline.

I dont understand why the Company Headquarters need to be accessed by teleporting through the wards. In much the same way as the Path of the Twelve, there is no reason this cant be a physical place in each city. There are so many roads and doors blocked off that it almost seems lazy to not fill the places, but rather create another instance.

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Originally Posted by Leenk

I dont understand why the Company Headquarters need to be accessed by teleporting through the wards. In much the same way as the Path of the Twelve, there is no reason this cant be a physical place in each city. There are so many roads and doors blocked off that it almost seems lazy to not fill the places, but rather create another instance.

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I think the Development Team is waiting on the hardware/server issues to be resolved before they start making structural changes to the zones. At least that is what I am hoping.

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Originally Posted by Sorel

I think the Development Team is waiting on the hardware/server issues to be resolved before they start making structural changes to the zones. At least that is what I am hoping.

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Yeah, that's what I'm hoping as well. We know they're planning to change up the cities though, so don't worry!

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Originally Posted by Leenk

I dont understand why the Company Headquarters need to be accessed by teleporting through the wards. In much the same way as the Path of the Twelve, there is no reason this cant be a physical place in each city. There are so many roads and doors blocked off that it almost seems lazy to not fill the places, but rather create another instance.

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well they are supposedly re-doing lots of the maps, including the citys, so for me its a moot point, might be completely different down the road....besides im not exactly against mass crowing at counters (lag hell)

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Originally Posted by Sephr

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping as well. We know they're planning to change up the cities though, so don't worry!

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Yeah its probably Instances for the time Being, till they have everything put in place for the places that have Instances to be part of the world

I'll join the adders i always thought girdania was the prettiest city..though i like ul,dah to lol umm...oh boy anyways anyone on besaid wana group msg me or leave your ingame name and i'll track ya down and we can defend girdania!

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Originally Posted by Scars_Humora

I'll join the adders i always thought girdania was the prettiest city..though i like ul,dah to lol umm...oh boy anyways anyone on besaid wana group msg me or leave your ingame name and i'll track ya down and we can defend girdania!

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Starlord Ravine here =) Not on currently but I will be soon to shout my excitement for all this stuff were getting :P

Edit: actually Im getting on now :P

alright :D i'm currently being a guinea pig for science till monday so i might be able to see ya then at the very least tuesday :D i'm buying a beautiful young filly the 26th any suggestions for names? :D

wana name her after a chocobo

Anyone else find it awesome that we can switch companies? A lot of my LS wants to join the Adders, but I'm an Ul'dahn though and through. I don't wanna miss out on any of their adventures because of that.

I am thinking about making 2 other Characters 1 for each Grand Company

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Adventurers may check the amount of seals in their possession by selecting Attributes in the main menu, and then clicking the Grand Companies tab.

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'Grand Companies' tab, or the 'Currency' tab?

I guess it's best to assume this content will be like quests and leves until the patch is released. Honestly at this point in the game I was hoping for some coherent storylines with a beginning and an ending and proper cutscenes like in most XI quests.

I guess the release pace of the patches is so slow it's safer for SE to dish out grinding material than unique quest-lines.

Honestly I'm just trying to psyche out myself from expecting too much from this patch, back to repeating "it's mostly about AA".

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Originally Posted by Calandra

'Grand Companies' tab, or the 'Currency' tab?

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Might need a separate tab detailing your progression in the company. Its curious though.

Hm. Might be time to reinstall.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Anyone else find it awesome that we can switch companies? A lot of my LS wants to join the Adders, but I'm an Ul'dahn though and through. I don't wanna miss out on any of their adventures because of that.

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I'm the other way around I want to be an Adder but my shell voted Ul'dah. :O *flails*
This is good news though, for now anyway I wonder when they'll ask us to choose?

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Originally Posted by Cendres

I'm the other way around I want to be an Adder but my shell voted Ul'dah. :O *flails*
This is good news though, for now anyway I wonder when they'll ask us to choose?

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Probably when the the Mission that makes you the Next rank up from Recruit.. it will probably warn you that completeing this quest will bind you to this Company

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To enlist with a Grand Company, first make your way to its headquarters, which can be accessed from the host city-state's market wards entrance. Once inside, speak with the recruitment officer and you will be asked to undertake a mission,* the completion of which will earn you induction into the organization as a recruit.
* Available only to adventurers rank 22 or above.

As recruits are not yet bound to an organization, adventurers are encouraged to use this opportunity to discover firsthand with which company's ethos they most closely identify.

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So, as far as I can tell from reading the above, we're bound to only one Grand Company after we pass beyond the rank of recruit. Am I wrong? Will we not be able to experience all Grand Company storylines?

Ahh okay yes that's a very good assumption guys. If it's anything like XI missions you can defect if you want but you need to start ALL over with the faction you are going to. I'm comparing City missions with these Grand companies....