Hidden power Downs 87 Headrip Ogre kill

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Originally Posted by Kallera

I'm at work, so I can't see the video, but how much in normal attacks should a PUG expect to do here to effectively damage deal targets this high?

Like, there's a parser, what numbers should a Pug be pulling?

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You should be specializing in DEX and VIT with STR ocming in 3rd for a fight like this. That being said: The damage is going to be not so great BUT accuracy is crucial for every class involved in this fight. You will see that when you notice the disrupts.

Congratulations

If you do something your proud of post it, its just preparation.

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Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee

Do you two have anything to contribute? Or still just trolling?

Any advice on the fight? Anything to add about this mobs individual abilities/aggro type?

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Your leader explained something completly diffrent.
From what i understand (and feel to correct me if im wrong & prove your ls leaders explantion complete bulls***)
You are practicing for the upcoming Dungeon boss. (in wich isnt even proven it's the final boss yet)

You dont even know if it has the same abilities than the one you fought in the video or not, or do you?
You still wanna call this trolling, or simple discussion?

No, you two made this topic all about bragging, in wich obviously your LS leader do NOT approve of.
Now... if i were you it start apologizing for letting your LS leader down by being complete ass-hats and feed on your own ego.

And ya if have some advice to you and how to gain respect, dont be freakin asshats.

Oh..and last advice... start "Practicing" hate distrubution durin those Heal-spams, wich the new "Enmity" content, all your practicing will be for nought.

But you are correct in one thing, know your enemy, however... that mob...isnt the enemy.

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Originally Posted by quantumsaint

A) I can't believe I read all that.

B) I can't believe there's drama over something in a game that has nothing worthy to have drama over yet.

C) Congratulations on your kill. I'm sure we'll see more videos in the future.

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Thanks for the congrats man. Sorry about all the haters spamming our thread :/

We will continue to put out videos and hopefully people will get something good out of our efforts :)

Take care dude :)

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Originally Posted by Malevolance

If you do something your proud of post it, its just preparation.

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I'm not so sure the ogre in the dungeon is going to be as easy as this one was.

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Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee

Thanks for the congrats man. Sorry about all the haters spamming our thread :/

We will continue to put out videos and hopefully people will get something good out of our efforts :)

Take care dude :)

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Do you know you get hated on? This is why.

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Originally Posted by Laughlyn

Your leader explained something completly diffrent.
From what i understand (and feel to correct me if im wrong & prove your ls leaders explantion complete bulls***)
You are practicing for the upcoming Dungeon boss. (in wich isnt even proven it's the final boss yet)

You dont even know if it has the same abilities than the one you fought in the video or not, or do you?
You still wanna call this trolling, or simple discussion?

No, you two made this topic all about bragging, in wich obviously your LS leader do NOT approve of.
Now... if i were you it start apologizing for letting your LS leader down by being complete ass-hats and feed on your own ego.

And ya if have some advice to you and how to gain respect, dont be freakin asshats.

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First off you're misinformed.

Malevolence Apathy and Areeya Jaidee formed and still maintain HiddenPower LS

All of our Officers maintain a public face. We are going to talk to Gath, but you REALLY need to STOP trolling our threads.

Why would you care what Gath says anyway? Are you really that immature? He is ONE person stating HIS beliefs. Why should you care about that? Really, It seems there's a deeper reason for your animosity.

This isn't the first time you've trolled our threads and it isn't respected.

I don't know you OR your server and I don't care about them either. If you don't have anything positive to contribute about the fight quite boosting our post counts.

Thanks :)

I have no idea why this thread should exist. At least here. I don't think anyone else made threads about "we killed (insert NM/normal mob), aren't we awesome?" Nice personal achievement sure but why should people really care?

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Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee

First off you're misinformed.

Malevolence Apathy and Areeya Jaidee formed and still maintain HiddenPower LS

All of our Officers maintain a public face. We are going to talk to Gath, but you REALLY need to STOP trolling our threads.

This isn't the first time you've trolled our threads and it isn't respected.

I don't know you OR your server and I don't care about them either. If you don't have anything positive to contribute about the fight quite boosting our post counts.

Thanks :)

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Stop giving us a reason to.

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Originally Posted by Petori

I have no idea why this thread should exist. At least here. I don't think anyone else made threads about "we killed (insert NM/normal mob), aren't we awesome?" Nice personal achievement sure but why should people really care?

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The original poster is apparently their in house troll. I guess he took it upon himself to make this thread and proceed to "be better than everyone else". I'm sure you can imagine how well that flies.

So now we have the rest of his ls coming to his rescue to change the direction of this thread into a positive one. However this thread still serves no purpose.

I don't really care about their kill, anyone can do it I'm sure. I'm more concerned about his tone.

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Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee

First off you're misinformed.

Malevolence Apathy and Areeya Jaidee formed and still maintain HiddenPower LS

All of our Officers maintain a public face. We are going to talk to Gath, but you REALLY need to STOP trolling our threads.

This isn't the first time you've trolled our threads and it isn't respected.

I don't know you OR your server and I don't care about them either. If you don't have anything positive to contribute about the fight quite boosting our post counts.

Thanks :)

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Shame...i just gave you the best advice you'll ever need.

And i just think you told me that "You" (me) arnt allowed to be on the forums is that correct?

When the group in the Video got to the Dungeon ogre there was about 13 min on the clock, I wanted to see how long it would take us to kill the highest tier ogre in the game currently that we could find and we killed him in about 10 - 11 Min, I Never said it was the end dungeon boss but that's what they showed on the video, but it was fun to at least attempt it and know we are ready for anything SE throws at us.

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Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee

#1: We're not on Wutai and don't really care about Wutai. If we were on Wutai we would still be the same LS we are.

#2: We're not bragging. Gath acts a little silly in public but he's really a nice guy in real life.

#3: Again, We're not bragging. This video is to edify the community and show people different stuff to do in Eorzea :)

Earliest i could find is Sep 30 2010. Sorry for being off by a few days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZVhacta2s4

BTW: Several people have reported you for overstepping your social boundaries and being way to offensive over a simple video thread. Have a nice day.

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Question... if you're not bragging, then why even post something like this. It doesn't offer any strategies or tips for fighting the ogre, just you guys killing it. I would say its bragging a lot. and Gath really didn't start the thread of in the aims of avoiding anti-bashing with the last line he put in.

And really, without needing any proof, every monster in the game has likely been killed prior to this video. Especially since in your video, you have the full party buff. Something very recent. I'm sure someone somewhere went and destroyed these when we could have 15 people in our party and no buff.

Also 2. A more impressive video would be one of you guys killing a storm basilisk lvl87+. I'm pretty sure, because of the attack they start the fight with, they might possibly insta-wipe your party. plus they attack much faster than ogres.

LOL button clicker...so pro

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Originally Posted by Malevolance

When the group in the Video got to the Dungeon ogre there was about 13 min on the clock, I wanted to see how long it would take us to kill the highest tier ogre in the game currently that we could find and we killed him in about 10 - 11 Min, I Never said it was the end dungeon boss but that's what they showed on the video, but it was fun to at least attempt it and know we are ready for anything SE throws at us.

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This is a post i respect, dont be alarmed i wasnt "attacking" anything you wrote.
I used the official video of the new dungeon fight as refrence not yours.

What i would like to read however from you & your ls is,.... how much / less diffrent was the lv84 Ogre compared
to the real one you see in the video. (after you have completed it)

(now that topic im looking forward to read, if you some of you grow up & get your act together.)

Maybe even i'll actually go back & play when it's released and give it a shot myself & my ls. just to have something in the backpocket if "Some" people still want proof, no matter how useless it will be.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

Ill give you a C for effort.

Pug standing in the wrong spot gets 1 shot
No THM dots at all (even though you have them main healing)
No battle regimens at all.
Protect and Shell wear out at 3:52 and don't get reapplied AT ALL
Nobody uses thread reduction skills and consequently the PUG dies a 2nd time.
Lancer pulls threat off the tank and dies.

Grats on the kill, but sloppy as hell.

I sure wouldn't have posted that.

Its embarrassing for your shell.

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Is this what we were supposed to be "jelly" about, if so, I'm very jealous that we are as uncoordinated as they are lawls /sarcasm

I just posted it because I haven't seen anyone kill one yet and wanted the community to know that they can be killed. there is no hurt in that but everyone is raging about it.

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Originally Posted by Reika

Question... if you're not bragging, then why even post something like this. It doesn't offer any strategies or tips for fighting the ogre, just you guys killing it. I would say its bragging a lot.

And really, without needing any proof, every monster in the game has likely been killed prior to this video. Especially since in your video, you have the full party buff. Something very recent. I'm sure someone somewhere went and destroyed these when we could have 15 people in our party and no buff.

Also 2. A more impressive video would be one of you guys killing a storm basilisk lvl87+. I'm pretty sure, because of the attack they start the fight with, they might possibly insta-wipe your party.

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#1: We aren't bragging. You're spinning the view that we are. Myself and Mal do these videos to show people what types of party buildups can fight these mobs.

#2: Gath stated his personal views and people are saying THATS why they are trolling this thread (Which each troll admits to trolling in their own words if you backtrack). Now, WHY would you let ONE person get you all so flustered? He is ONE person stating HIS belief. I say you people need to be a bit more mature and focus on the fight and elements of it. We are trying to help the community out.

#3: How would you have done this fight? Anything to contribute?

Only reason why I'd be offended by the OPs tone is if I were jealous. It's true, if you can accomplish the same task or feel you and your LS mates are capable of it then there is nothing really infuriating over what he said. If he has a big ego then let him. Unless he is personally targeting you and affecting you in the OP I don't see anything to flame him or his linkshell over.

They stated something pretty valid. If you are thinking about trolling them for the video, focus that energy on getting a group and downing it yourself and sharing the pride in the accomplishment.

Instead, all I see is bitching over the tone. Who cares about the tone. Also, it was later stated that they wanted to put it in general to give players insight on that mob type (which seems to be a dungeon boss). That was my impression for why it was posted before it was even said. No one else got that?

True.

But the raging isnt about the killing, it's about the self-proclaimed awesomeness & bragging.

Try find anything i wrote / trashtalked about whoever tanked w/e mob, (don exist) cuz i dont play tank.
Helli dont even have a proper tank in my ls, i have 3 mages & well thats basicly it, everyone else is taking a break or quit.

I dont controls peoples real-life or tell them what class to play,
i let them go as what they like to go as.

And we make the best of our abilities, and so far..we done spanktastic. (and thats saying alot for 3 mages)

oh shit, i think i just bragged..but im proud of my current active members.

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Originally Posted by Malevolance

I just posted it because I haven't seen anyone kill one yet and wanted the community to know that they can be killed. there is no hurt in that but everyone is raging about it.

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Again all mobs 80+ have been killed MONTHS ago and the reason you don't see posts about it is because people are humble and don't try to piss their self believed epeen all over public forums. There is a reason no one does this on BG because it makes you look like a complete and utter tool.

Its a hard fight people can say what they want thats there "right" but its a hard fight its harder than any NM currently in the game just get a group and go try to fight it "ITS NO JOKE" I just want my guys to have some type of experience of what this mob type is capable of. ^^

And I was doing what I needed to do stay alive and not die.

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

Only reason why I'd be offended by the OPs tone is if I were jealous. It's true, if you can accomplish the same task or feel you and your LS mates are capable of it then there is nothing really infuriating over what he said. If he has a big ego then let him. Unless he is personally targeting you and affecting you in the OP I don't see anything to flame him or his linkshell over.

They stated something pretty valid. If you are thinking about trolling them for the video, focus that energy on getting a group and downing it yourself and sharing the pride in the accomplishment.

Instead, all I see is bitching over the tone. Who cares about the tone. Also, it was later stated that they wanted to put it in general to give players insight on that mob type (which seems to be a dungeon boss). That was my impression for why it was posted before it was even said. No one else got that?

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Very true. Thanks Brucey :)

People shouldn't get so easily offended by a video and then blame it on someone stating their viewpoint.

I encourage everyone to try this fight out! In fact if your contemplating R45 Dungeons then I would HIGHLY advise doing this fight.

It is good teamwork and good practice for being more than prepared.

We also believe that the Ogre is only a mini boss. SE wouldn't show us a video of the MAIN boss and not expect people to over prepare for it. They know R45 players are going to be more aggressive in gameplay when they have a outright goal to achieve.

Here's hoping this training pays off :)

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Originally Posted by Req

Congratulations, your linkshell has a semi competent tank and a bunch of lancers. That is really all you need to kill any high level mob.

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R-O-F-L
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Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee

#1: We aren't bragging. You're spinning the view that we are. Myself and Mal do these videos to show people what types of party buildups can fight these mobs.

#2: Gath stated his personal views and people are saying THATS why they are trolling this thread (Which each troll admits to trolling in their own words if you backtrack). Now, WHY would you let ONE person get you all so flustered? He is ONE person stating HIS belief. I say you people need to be a bit more mature and focus on the fight and elements of it. We are trying to help the community out.

#3: How would you have done this fight? Anything to contribute?

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I'm saying, usually videos that are attempting to offer tactical advice have a lot more informational text throughout it than the beginning title. other than that, it is just you guys killing the boss. In my experience, only elitists who are bragging about their accomplishments do that, but usually on their LS/Guild/whatevers web page.

Saying no one else has ever killed a headrip ogre ever just helps prove your bragging about your kill. The video was cool and all, good job killing it. But it mainly comes off as a brag. If anything it could have just stayed on youtube with its tags so people could find it at their own leisure, but instead, you guys absolutely had to make sure the FFXIV community knows you killed a headrip ogre by posting it on the forums. Its bragging.

I don't have anything to contribute. I think of the Eorzia's over-leveled monsters as a waste of time to go kill, except for bragging rights >.>. If anything, my party would have used more battle regimens and debuffs.

well I haven't seen any proof so I guess were the first to actually record this right ?

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Originally Posted by Laughlyn

True.

But the raging isnt about the killing, it's about the self-proclaimed awesomeness & bragging.

Try find anything i wrote / trashtalked about whoever tanked w/e mob, (don exist) cuz i dont play tank.
Helli dont even have a proper tank in my ls, i have 3 mages & well thats basicly it, everyone else is taking a break or quit.

I dont controls peoples real-life or tell them what class to play,
i let them go as what they like to go as.

And we make the best of our abilities, and so far..we done spanktastic. (and thats saying alot for 3 mages)

oh shit, i think i just bragged..but im proud of my current active members.

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1: There is no shame in having pride in your accomplishments. Gath has a strong connection to his accomplishments and his LS mates accomplishments. That makes him seem obnoxious to other people.

2: The quip about controlling peoples classes and such was cute: However, This is how you run a successful End Game LS. The leaders usually handle these type of concerns in their planning meetings.

- In HiddenPower we do it a bit different: We still plan but we ALWAYS collaborate with our members on THEIR input and we don't discourage their growth or accomplishments OR pride in accomplishments. It's a family over here. We are tight knit and pride ourselves on that. No one here really cares how you take that or if you even care about that. It's just who we are and what we do.

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Originally Posted by Malevolance

well I haven't seen any proof so I guess were the first to actually record this right ?

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Why would anyone else go out and do this, correction, why would anyone go out and do this AND record it, posting it to the forums?

Greetings!

Although I can certainly appreciate your wanting to discuss your victories, strategies and whatnot, this thread seems to have turned a bit negative. I will be locking it at this time.

Please try to keep threads positive even when making a post where you might disagree with another member.

Thank you for your understanding and apologies for any inconvenience!

-=Game Master Emdub=-