Instanced Raids Unveiled!

Anyone else confused as to why SE is calling it a raid? From what I gather, these are single party dungeon instances, amirite?
And no I'm not complaining. I can't wait to run these with my LS!!!!

Bunch of ungrateful heathens those of you complaining. This is what happens when you have to try and rush new content. Be lucky you're even getting anything at all.

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Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess

Bunch of ungrateful heathens those of you complaining. This is what happens when you have to try and rush new content. Be lucky you're even getting anything at all.

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'Heathens' makes no sense in that context, unless you consider FFXIV to be a religion or are some kind of zealot.

The church of stupid's doing pretty well these days, is that what you meant?

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PrettyPrincess

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Oh, nevermind. What I said above is pretty much a given.

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Originally Posted by Sephr

'Heathens' makes no sense in that context, unless you consider FFXIV to be a religion or are some kind of zealot.

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Isn't that basically true for 75% of the posters here?

Shutup you CAB

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Originally Posted by Nero

I think the Pic of the 3 "new" Gear-pieces is of course not all we could we get. Like they also posted just 3 Pics, when they released the NM's, and we were able to get a lot of new Items.

So i wouldnt worry about that really.

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still so far we get the same gear pieces with different colours... now even the dungeons? i DO hope they come up with all new gear and don't recycle every gear possible ... this game has so much potential but i see a lot of this thrown out of the window... i hope they prove me wrong though

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Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess

Shutup you CAB

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CAB...?

/10char

hehe you'll never know what is stands for ^_^

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Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess

hehe you'll never know what is stands for ^_^

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My life will be empty forever.

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Bunch of ungrateful harlots this community is.

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Haha, just found that in your post history. Heathens and harlots? Your grasp of the English language is lacking somewhat severely.

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Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess

Bunch of ungrateful heathens those of you complaining. This is what happens when you have to try and rush new content. Be lucky you're even getting anything at all.

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We're lucky we're getting anything at all eh?
I'd say SE is luckier that anyone is still playing this game at all dont you think?

Yeah, I'm with the "harlots" on this one... the new raids at first glance are very lackluster. Reskinned armor rewards, same old monsters, etc. I won't knock it until I've run through them, but if this is the new team's triumphant example of what awaits the future of FFXIV, I doubt I'll be playing much longer.

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Originally Posted by Aveline

Yeah, I'm with the "harlots" on this one... the new raids at first glance are very lackluster. Reskinned armor rewards, same old monsters, etc. I won't knock it until I've run through them, but if this is the new team's triumphant example of what awaits the future of FFXIV, I doubt I'll be playing much longer.

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there seems to be enough people who are hoping that 1.18 will be some amazing huge patch that will make the game "good" and when it comes out and its not as big or as exciting as they hoped, they will be let down pretty bad. Ive even seen plenty of these "if 1.18 does not deliver, im done with this game" and at this point, if the new raids are as half baked as im guessing they will be, cont me in the "this game isnt even worth following" boat.

too bad they didnt put caps on the dungeons so people get their level adjusted to the proper dungeon level...

=> the 50ies will rush through it like the nms they will rush the 25 dungeon and the 45 i might think as well.. depends

i dunno why SE doesnt implement level sync so people can acutally enjoy the new content instead of rushing through it.

Well ok you can always make a new character for it or level another job... but thats a bit retarded.
No caps or syncs for dungeons... why did they even bother... its cant be so hard to implement and its a great feature.

Almost no mmo has these features and thats why nobody does them... or IF people get rushed through... great idea... i hope they fix this...

How can you base an opinion on two screenshots and 3 images of gear. For all we know that gear could have way better stats than anything in the game right now. But how can you tell from the image? The screen shots don't show the entire dungeon either.

You people are out of control... just a bunch of trolls really.

Uhh no, Molly, having a difference of opinion from you does not make half the members of this board trolls. It makes us people with brains who aren't afraid to say what we think. Sorry we aren't sycophantic enough for you, but that's how it is. Who cares about gear stats, anyway? The way gear is in the game right now, you can tank naked and will hardly be penalized for it.

Guys, you can't judge a whole patch just by looking at two pictures! I am very happy, if these are dungeons to start, it's very good for me!Good job Yoshi and good job to you and your team!

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Originally Posted by Aveline

Uhh no, Molly, having a difference of opinion from you does not make half the members of this board trolls. It makes us people with brains who aren't afraid to say what we think. Sorry we aren't sycophantic enough for you, but that's how it is. Who cares about gear stats, anyway? The way gear is in the game right now, you can tank naked and will hardly be penalized for it.

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You do know the way stats work is changing, right? And I'll say it again, do you even know what you're complaining about? There is not even enough information to based a solid opinion about in that post on the front page. You're complaining about pure speculation.

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

there seems to be enough people who are hoping that 1.18 will be some amazing huge patch that will make the game "good" and when it comes out and its not as big or as exciting as they hoped, they will be let down pretty bad. Ive even seen plenty of these "if 1.18 does not deliver, im done with this game" and at this point, if the new raids are as half baked as im guessing they will be, cont me in the "this game isnt even worth following" boat.

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a lot of people im talking to in game ls members, friends who had their hopes up for so long (like me) are feeling the same. They don't log on, peoples level gaps increase further, so even if we are all on we cant do shit together... level sync would help a lot but i doubt they will implement it and if it will take forever.

People get impatient for a good reason, almost 1 year (and if you count the last beta stages and release, where nothing actually changed we HAVE the 1 year already) has past and nothing happened. At least nothing that justifies the laughable small updates we had so far. The trade menus the retainer trading, checking, macro, gear switching, crafting menu responsiveness, etc. etc. is still almost as bad as it was after launch... These things should, no matter if other stuff gets overhaul, be fixed by now. They seem untouched for months now...

People are getting irritated since they dunno what SE is really working on, and how long things will take.
They are losing hope. I would love to see some kind of a plan, The "big picture". So i know what i can expect in the future,
if its worth waiting, or if im just crafting and leveling for grind-sakes here.
The way the game is now the ps3 release isnt even close. And if its planned anytime soon, we need really big patches the next months, which i doubt. i would love to see REAL dev posts, from all the team, people for graphic, engine, server,
content, etc. I wanna know what their visions and plans are, what they are working on. Perhaps a longer video like they did on the dvd they delivered with the game. But this time i wanna get the feeling how they are planning to change the game.
Examples, graphic changes, class-specific gear in 3d (teaser) something...

I know most people will write: be happy with what you got, or give them time, or i am expecting too much.
I don't think i am, since 1 year has past (counting the last beta where no (or almost no) changes were made compared to launch).

I do enjoy some parts of the game but i can't imagine and i don't want to imagine something that MIGHT be in the future only to get disappointed in the end... I think its time to show us more of the hopefully brighter future!

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

You do know the way stats work is changing, right? And I'll say it again, do you even know what you're complaining about? There is not even enough information to based a solid opinion about in that post on the front page. You're complaining about pure speculation.

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which is... SE fault again. They never give us concrete stuff. And IF they had new gear to show, which they had when NMs got live... they would show us... so its more then likely we won't see new gear, only some colour changes.

If a car vendor has the latest porsche to sell, do you think he would show everyone the old version of it?...

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You're complaining about pure speculation.

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Actually, I'm not "complaining" about anything. I said if the dungeon is as lame as the pics make it look, then I'm out. Don't be sad, Molly, I'll still play with you if you want! <3 Calm down and stop harassing people for having a different opinion than yourself. *hands Molly an anti-troll cookie*

Not enough doom speculation in this thread

If it's not in this list, it's speculation.

The only things we really know about the dungeons so far:
- there are two dungeons, one for r25-30 the other for 45-50
- we know where the entrances are
- there are pre-requisite quests to get into these dungeons
- there is a 60 min timer for completing the raids
- you can get gear from the dungeons
- we know what 3 pieces of that gear looks like but not the stats

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

If it's not in this list, it's speculation.

The only things we really know about the dungeons so far:
- there are two dungeons, one for r25-30 the other for 45-50
- we know where the entrances are
- there are pre-requisite quests to get into these dungeons
- there is a 60 min timer for completing the raids
- you can get gear from the dungeons
- we know what 3 pieces of that gear looks like but not the stats

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-We also know the basic mob types for each(and NOT by what the pictures show)

1 has alot of feral beasts
1 has troops of foreign origin taking up residence

OMG i actualy read the descriptions!

LOL this thread is just flat out ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

You do know the way stats work is changing, right? And I'll say it again, do you even know what you're complaining about? There is not even enough information to based a solid opinion about in that post on the front page. You're complaining about pure speculation.

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Who honestly cares if the gear has better stats if it's just the same bland re-skins of the same bland gear we've had for almost 10 months now?

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

How can you base an opinion on two screenshots and 3 images of gear. For all we know that gear could have way better stats than anything in the game right now. But how can you tell from the image? The screen shots don't show the entire dungeon either.

You people are out of control... just a bunch of trolls really.

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Who's the bigger troll? The people discussing the game or the one trolling them with copypasta "facts"?

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Originally Posted by LateReg

Who honestly cares if the gear has better stats if it's just the same bland re-skins of the same bland gear we've had for almost 10 months now?

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ehhh the reskins in this game are pretty good, but i do agree they need some new basic designs. reskins are excellent when you got a lot of choices, but we dont have that many choices, and its been 10 months, its bound to get old, reskins of current were cool back when were 3 months in. Seeing npc versions of higher level stuff was interesting, but that got old about 5 months ago.

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Originally Posted by LateReg

Who honestly cares if the gear has better stats if it's just the same bland re-skins of the same bland gear we've had for almost 10 months now?

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LOL Theres still a few colours of each type they haven't made yet, give them time!!!

You mean almost a year after launch and at least 4 years of development are still not enough time? Also, considering they wanted our input in Alpha/Beta and we gave it to them and they pretty much ignored it all and told us we were playing the game wrong? No no no.

2 months of no significant patches and they decide to add only 2 dungeons without changing, or at least no announced changes, to current systems in place? Crafting is still broken, they are overhauling the entire battle system: which means even after they put in these dungeons we will have to relearn how to play through them with each patch afterward. no new guild leves we still have to select only 4 for each camp out of a random 10 per camp from 1-50, a handful of sidequests only designed for lowbies, a task board for questing...but it only has crafting quests and only til rank 10, there was mention of making those hamlets outside of main cities questing areas and that was never mentioned again!

What they need to do is flesh out each of these things before arbitrarily adding more stuff. I too want this game to do well, I defended it vehemently in beta forums and to my own LS members. but they keep doing this thing where they throw out an idea and rather than finishing it up do it sort of half-baked. What they need is focus or more man power to develop these things simultaneously if they insist on not just throwing in new things without fixing current issues.

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Originally Posted by Seraphita

LOL Theres still a few colours of each type they haven't made yet, give them time!!!

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what? you mean these?

http://mooglebox.com/articles/item-preview.php

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

what? you mean these?

http://mooglebox.com/articles/item-preview.php

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Those look awfully familiar. SE palette swapping at its finest...because it's HD palette swapping now!

palette swap or no, I want the purple plate armor

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

palette swap or no, I want the purple plate armor

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lot of those palette swaps are pretty cool, id want them in game. they also sometimes have interesting accents, but id also want more basic gear designs with variety.

Question - What does RAID mean? I thought it was when you have large number or people (usually more than your regular party like Dynamis in FFXI) does 4 people + 8 people limit dungeons actually considered RAID?

I know if you do those large scale RAID dungeons with fewer people than it normally takes then sure, it still can be considered since the dungeon itself is still made for RAID... I dunno, to me it don't feel right when SE says RAID and being only 4-8 people.

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Originally Posted by Anty

still so far we get the same gear pieces with different colours... now even the dungeons? i DO hope they come up with all new gear and don't recycle every gear possible ... this game has so much potential but i see a lot of this thrown out of the window... i hope they prove me wrong though

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Thats what ppl get for complaining and forcing SE to hurry. I understand that most ppl here dont understand Stuff like that and im not surprised about comments like that. Trolls also need their rooms and i /welcome them all to give me some Funtimes.

But that is beside the point. Even if its recolored, even if the Dungeons are in the Game since Beta, you couldnt enter them till they release Dungeones. That gear of course dont have the same Stats than existing Gear.. They are changing the whole Battle-System, AA, new Animations, re-writing Landscapes and so on. SE is changing A LOT at the moment and i seriously dont get how people dont see that.

For the all the Stuff the ppl in this Forum are screaming for and complaining about, SE would need a "BASE"-group of 150 Programmers, to get it done in a certain amount of Time. Its nearly impossible to pull out a total new Area, with total new Mobs and total new Gear in like 3-4 Weeks. Ppl really think its possible? Go learn programming, write an Application, send it to SE and start dealing with whining, crying, complaining ppl who wont ever Thank you for the work you putted into a Project.

... lol if i would work for SE i would say: "Fuck those guys.. they dont even deserve getting a good game, send them back to WoW".

;)

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palette swap or no, I want the purple plate armor

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Oh noes.. want to be a DRG? XD

raid
   
–noun
1.
a sudden assault or attack, as upon something to be seized or suppressed: a police raid on a gambling ring.
2.
Military . a sudden attack on the enemy, as by air or by a small land force.

It's always lovely to see people assume a bunch of nonsense from two pictures (without even reading the text, mind you), that look nothing like the dungeons we can currently play on, by the way. Let alone the fact that we have no idea on how they'll play.

I'll wait to see what the dungeons look and play like before crying wolf. Because you know, I have a brain and I can use it.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

It's always lovely to see people assume a bunch of nonsense from two pictures (without even reading the text, mind you), that look nothing like the dungeons we can currently play on, by the way. Let alone the fact that we have no idea on how they'll play.

I'll wait to see what the dungeons look and play like before crying wolf. Because you know, I have a brain and I can use it.

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^ One of the smartest comments i've seen in this Thread today.

Same mobs re-textured. Same zones re-textured. Same gear re-textured. I have gotten used to SE doing this with XI but I honestly expected more, especially with the game in so much trouble at it's current state....

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Originally Posted by Reaux

raid
   
–noun
1.
a sudden assault or attack, as upon something to be seized or suppressed: a police raid on a gambling ring.
2.
Military . a sudden attack on the enemy, as by air or by a small land force.

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LOL I mean in a MMO - but anyways going with yours, so does 4-8 raid qualify for these? w 4 military guys taking out 100's of mobs, or even 1-4 people taking down 100 mobs in a dungeon considered raid?