Gaming Addiction

I think a lot of the people who don't think they're addicts, would qualify as one according to official criteria, and those who do, in typical addict fashion, are in denial and don't want to do anything about it, and just make excuses as to why it's 'ok for them'. I commend the OP on his initiative, but it's like telling people to stop smoking. No one is going to do it until they're ready, regardless of how much they're hurting themselves and those around them by their behavior.

this poosted in an MMORPG forum.... hehe funny

People with addictive personalities are susceptible to any form of entertainment or substance that one finds enjoyable, you can't really peg it to just video games. If it's not one thing it would probably be another. Also while your OP may have been well intentioned it does come off as telling people how to live their lives. If they prioritize gaming above all else and they truly enjoy it but can still function as productive members of society, who are you to say whether or not they should or should not be outside during their free time? I understand that people with full blown addictions cannot function in society but at that point you can't just tell them to go outside.

I feel most people here are big boys and girls and can handle their own lives and free time. Your OP comes off as telling people what to do and that's why some people get defensive. Your posts since have progressively grown more trollish though.

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

I've lost relatives and friends to addiction. While I may not have a degree related to the study of addiction, I do know a fair bit about it, as I've dealt with their addictions and my peronsal addictions. I know what addiction is, I was a heavy smoker for 9 years and I quit smoking 4 months ago. As far as gaming goes, I am an addict, for whatever reason I use gaming to escape whatever issues I have that I don't want to deal with. It is hard for me to go a long time without gaming, but it is significantly easier to stop as apposed to drugs/liquor/nicotine as there is no physical withdrawl symptoms. To say that gaming can't be an addiction is to say that gambling can't be an addiction. Just because there is not enough evidence due to lack of research does not mean that it can't be an actual problem.

Ravani it's cute how you think you're intelligent, but really you're not :P

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For someone knows the pain of losing people to addiction, I wouldn't expect you to be using the name of an alcoholic drink in their name. I hear that stuff's pretty addictive. You must be all torn up.

Also, patronising people is only making you look like more of a douche on this self-righteous post of yours. I love that now you've come out saying you're addicted to gaming whilst previously going "You live in xxx?! If I lived there I'd never do xxx!" That in itself is weak justification for a habit.

Who's the one lacking intelligence now?

Wow guys, i didn't know i needed a guide or a manual to read to find out if I am an addict or not. >_>

Im sure most of us will realise it soon or later, and will adjust. ...or not. :P

And for those who have some kind of disorder, I was diagnosed with severe mental illness at age 21, and I've overcome it completely, and I can tell you the longer you make excuses for yourself, the longer you'll stay stuck in your situation. You can't undo your illness, whatever it is, but you can live life to the fullest no matter what your situation. And spending 12 hours a day on FFXIV is letting your life waste away, trust me in that. Cudos OP.

Anyone know the statistics on playing video games actually killing people? Also, I find it ironic thread poster goes by the name Jack Daniels too.

I guess my point is there is no official, what one person may call an addict others may not. So what makes it official? Someone who went to college and has a piece of paper with PH. D. on it?

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Originally Posted by Gicker

And for those who have some kind of disorder, I was diagnosed with severe mental illness at age 21, and I've overcome it completely, and I can tell you the longer you make excuses for yourself, the longer you'll stay stuck in your situation. You can't undo your illness, whatever it is, but you can live life to the fullest no matter what your situation. And spending 12 hours a day on FFXIV is letting your life waste away, trust me in that. Cudos OP.

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Congrats on overcoming your illness. Now if only there was a cure for my diabetis...

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Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia

Tehbi you are just an addict in general and Video games was your choice drug and now it is exercise, but not everyone follows those guidelines and people have different standards on what they would consider an addiction.

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I'll admit that it's kind of creepy being called an addict, but you may be correct.

To the people requesting that this thread be locked: I personally think that MMO addiction is a relevant topic and that an MMO forum is the perfect place to discuss it.

If we all had to be perfect to try and make this world a better place, the world would be much worse than it is right now. If you want to be afraid of people calling you a hypocrite and end up making no efforts to improve the world around you as a result, that's your choice. It's always the do nothings who criticize those who actually push this world forward out of jealousy and resentment, but it's people who DO without FEAR of reprisal, knowing their imperfections that make this world better. You choose what you want to do, but at the end of the day if even one person does something about their gaming addiction because of Jack's post, then he's made the world a better place... and what have you done for all your nay saying and undermining of a not a self righteous effort, but a truly righteous effort. Again, cudos to Jack.

Why are you all still breathing? Bunch of oxygen-addicts. You should start going out and inhaling more hydrogen instead of wasting your lives away.

Read the whole post Nuru. Overcoming does not equate to curing. Overcoming means ruling your own life, not letting your illness rule it for you.

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Originally Posted by Tebhi

To the people requesting that this thread be locked: I personally think that MMO addiction is a relevant topic and that an MMO forum is the perfect place to discuss it.

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No doubt, but this is going nowhere. Look around - very few here are taking this seriously. This thread is hurting the topic more than it's helping.

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Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia

I guess my point is there is no official, what one person may call an addict others may not. So what makes it official? Someone who went to college and has a piece of paper with PH. D. on it?

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Well considering you have to do intense study and research and discussion on a topic for 7+ years to get a PhD, and then spend the rest of your life doing the same, yeah I would say that makes a PhD more qualified on the subject than yourself. And besides, self diagnosis is never objective.

Thank you Gicker, at least some people are taking this seriously.

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Originally Posted by Leowilde

No doubt, but this is going nowhere. Look around - very few here are taking this seriously. This thread is hurting the topic more than it's helping.

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If you go by that logic, not a single thread on these forums should last longer than one or two pages, have you ever taken a good look at this community?

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Originally Posted by Leowilde

No doubt, but this is going nowhere. Look around - very few here are taking this seriously. This thread is hurting the topic more than it's helping.

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Those who were actually discussing seriously got bombarbed by "OK SURE BUT I AIN'T TALKING WITH YOU GIMME SOME REAL ADDICT TO DISCUSS WITH WHY ARE YOU ALL SO DEFENSIVE I MUST'VE HIT A NERVE".

I didnt open this thread to have a debate about wether or not this is a legitimate addiction. Not every topic on every forum is an open invitation to argue you know?

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

If you go by that logic, not a single thread on these forums should last longer than one or two pages, have you ever taken a good look at this community?

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I have. And it's practicly the same story every time. One person tries to say something sensible, whether that be listing the good things about the game instead of complaining or, like in this case, casting light on a well known problem, it turns into a feast of picking on other people. At the moment this forum isn't very well suited for this debate, as you can see. I would very much like your point to be taken by people, but this aint the place for it.

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Originally Posted by Gicker

Read the whole post Nuru. Overcoming does not equate to curing. Overcoming means ruling your own life, not letting your illness rule it for you.

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Yeah i know that, but i still have limitations on the things I can and cannot eat, due to the illness. Its not ruling my life at all, but it still comes with a list of rules.

FFXIV General Discussion Board.
yea, this topic is not needed.
seriously, if someone thinks he needs help with his addiction he'll find a way to get helped.
but noone will seek help for his addiction on a gaming board.
good intentions OP, but just not the right board to have a discussion about addictions.

btw asking for a thread to be closed is against the rules, if you truly believe this should be done, report the thread and ignore it. Also, do not expect it to be closed (if they consider it really should) at this time, the managers are usually active a few hours from now.

I find it funny that the whole conversation started because JackDaniels said that Gaming Addition is a horrible thing and should be controlled. JackDaniels who has been on his computer everyday making posts about gaming addiction. What is the difference between playing a game or posting on forums? You are still on your computer. People need to blame something for bad events that I do believe happen because ones "Technological" addiction, but it is the persons choice on what actions they take, don't blame something just because its there. Otherwise I should blame the people that distilled and made the Alcohol that sold it to the bar that sold it to the guy that got in his car and killed my parents in a car wreck.

I am addicted to Internet Forums and constantly checking to see if anyone has commented on my posts or quoted me.

"Everything in Moderation" when referring to ANY kind of "Addiction" (official or not). /nuffsaid

Many people around this forum are more addicted to being right (about their/others' opinions, nonetheless) than being addicted to gaming or FF14.
It doesn't matter if you come in posting trying to have a casual laid-back discussion or not. Most people around here are defensive & will snap and quote any comments for the sake of argument alone.

It's no better than the metal heads trying to argue what the heaviest bands are. At the end of the day it just doesn't exist outside of opinion.

Live your life the way you want. If anyone else has a problem with it, they can go QQ. Life is all about experiences and some have to learn the hard way before they can understand.

I think the OP should've expected negative feedback from the way that he introduced his post.

even the truly addicted can still say "I can quit when I wanna!"
and not every forum goer is game addicted. Some attend the forums more than the game, and that's a different beast altogether.

There is no difference between posting on the forums every day all day and playing every day all day. The only time i've brought up gaming addiction on a forum ever was today, i dont know where you get every day from. I barely play ffxiv anymore, and I use the forums even less. People if you don't have anything constructive to post in this thread then stop it. This isn't a debate over the legitimacy of this addiction. Stop attacking my character while you're at it.

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Originally Posted by Tezz_Xivectro

"Everything in Moderation" when referring to ANY kind of "Addiction" (official or not). /nuffsaid

Many people around this forum are more addicted to being right (about their/others' opinions, nonetheless) than being addicted to gaming or FF14.
It doesn't matter if you come in posting trying to have a casual laid-back discussion or not. Most people around here are defensive & will snap and quote any comments for the sake of argument alone.

It's no better than the metal heads trying to argue what the heaviest bands are. At the end of the day it just doesn't exist outside of opinion.

Live your life the way you want. If anyone else has a problem with it, they can go QQ. Life is all about experiences and some have to learn the hard way before they can understand.

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Very well said. Life is about choices, good or bad.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

Yeah i know that, but i still have limitations on the things I can and cannot eat, due to the illness. Its not ruling my life at all, but it still comes with a list of rules.

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For sure, I agree. My life still has rules as well. I have to avoid loud and chaotic places, take medication on a daily basis, keep my stress levels relatively low. But glad to hear are keeping the illness in check :)

My intent is not to flame people so I apologize for my hostility. It just bothers me that people are attacking Jack when all I've seen is him make an attempt to help people.