Scholar as healer??

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Originally Posted by Steeled

Were people dying or near death while you're dps'ing?

If yes, then you're playing wrong.

If no, then keep doing what you're doing.

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Not at all, and no, I wasn't running out of MP or anything.
But as Conjurer, I've ran into tanks who've gotten pissy if I "step on their Toes" by casting Stone or Water to help them out a little if everyone's health is under control. Been yelled at for that because tanks have said I'm causing more Aggro doing that, the. Told "your job is to heal, so just heal" so I don't wanna run into the same situation where someone's pissy because I DPS (secondary over healing) but now know heals first, DPS second

Honestly, not being there, can't say, but they're probably doing something wrong.

As long as you're attacking their primary target, and they should be marking, your dps should be welcome.

In Dungeons, a healer should never outhate a tank on his main target and it's not difficult for the tank to outhate the healer on all targets. Just always make sure you're fighting his target.

lol, I wanted to play as a scholar until I found out that it was a healing role. I don't want to be a healer...but I thought the fairy and unicorn looked awesome. So...once I found out, I went the route of summoner. I'm much happier, and it's nice being able to pick up the slack if the healer in my party is pretty shitty & people constantly die. I'm thinking of leveling up cnj just so I have better healing abilities with my summoner to help better in dungeons. But yeah, I understand this post, I was confused at first too...

btw: I'm level 39 summoner...not sure why it's showing level 30 archanist on the side here.

arc / sch is a rather unique class / job progression, because for 30 levels you are playing as a DD, and only at level 30 do you begin to play the healer roll. It seems odd to spend so much time practicing one roll to change to a different roll at that point. And where do you put your bonus attribute points? Do you put them all into mind planning on becoming a sch? That would inhibit the function of the arc for 30 levels since arc does not have cleric stance. It's a little confusing that SE did it this way, unless it was to make it a more challenging character to play.

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Originally Posted by Iolair_Silverwing

Thank you, and see, here's another confusing part. As scholar, I can go through my hunting log and my kills get credited to the Arcanist log. Same goes with White Mage and Conjurers hunting log, hence another reason I assumed DPS over Healing

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I don't see how that's confusing. You are still the base class, WHM stems from CNJ, you are just a CNJ with more healing-based skills. Exp earned as a job credit the exp to the base class, and vice versa which of course means it's the same Hunting Log. It's really not that difficult.

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Originally Posted by AridElf

I don't see how that's confusing. You are still the base class, WHM stems from CNJ, you are just a CNJ with more healing-based skills. Exp earned as a job credit the exp to the base class, and vice versa which of course means it's the same Hunting Log. It's really not that difficult.

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Which is why I assumed the Scholar job was DPS, seeing that the Level 30 for it is Arcanist, not Conjurer

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Originally Posted by Panthan

Most classes have room for improvement, some more then others.
I think the main thing that would help is a clearer class discriptions, especially in cases like this where 1 class can split into 2 roles.
I cant Judge for the sch quests, but the whm one was very clear about whm being a healer, Im assuming this is the case for sch quests too, if not.. thats another thing that could help avoiding the confusion.

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Sch quest is about, Healing, Dmg mitigation, Bluff and Debluff and DD when needed.

A lot of depends on PT setups. If your PT got Blm that knows how to sleep mobs, Tank that does not behave like a wet Tofu, go crazy with Cleric Stance, DoTs and stuff.

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Originally Posted by Iolair_Silverwing

Which is why I assumed the Scholar job was DPS, seeing that the Level 30 for it is Arcanist, not Conjurer

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Scholar is Arcanist with a sub class of Conjurer which is why it's a healer. Summoner is Arcanist with a subclass of Thaumaturge which is why it is a DPS. It's not very confusing at all especially since all the jobs have color coded party icons, green = healer, red = DPS, blue = Tank. Scholar, White Mage and Conjurer all have green icons while Arcanist and Summoner have red. The first skill you unlock as a Scholar is a heal.

If you could heal and dps and you were not pulling hate then keep on doing whatcha doing. Last night it was myself and 2 friends at temple of qarn, I'm a blm my friends are blm and pld. We DF'd for our healer and it was a scholar. I was wondering if they'd be able to handle it because our last healer was really new for some reason and wasn't keeping our tank alive.

Anyways, he kept the tank healed and his dps kept up with us! We blew through that dungeon so fast it was such a nice relief to get someone who just hit the ground running. So don't be discouraged if you're helping the team in more than one way. That's the way it should be done. Just remember your first priority.

LMAOOOOO This is the best post ever!