AF+1 Costs WAY Too Much

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Originally Posted by Madruk

If it we're that easy to get there would be no point to doing other things like Coil. Even CT that's coming out in 2.1 is supposed to be ilvl80ish. The AF +1 is meant to supplement or fill in gaps in your current gear that you don't get from the RNG chests.

I agree though, only one viable end game dungeon to actually get said myth tomestones outside of Coil needs to be addressed. This seems more like throwing a bone to people that either can't spend the time to do the higher end content or aren't able to complete it.

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I gotta ask then, if this is the case why is it so damn hard to get? If it's just a gap filler, it shouldn't be so insanely troublesome to attain.

Also, it's rather disturbing how many people equate the game's "difficulty" and overall fun-factor with how many times you have to repeat existing content to move on. I dunno, I've always seen such filler repeat content as a cop out, not a value add. I mean, I've enjoyed the relic quests because they're so insanely difficult, and force you to master them (it's incredibly satisfying to spank Ifrit HM and Garuda HM, at least for me -- still working on Titan), but the tomestone requirements just insult to the intelligence of the player community at large.

What the hell? I saw a guy with an AF+1 this morning...?! Did he no-life or exploit/hack?

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Originally Posted by GilbertLapine

I gotta ask then, if this is the case why is it so damn hard to get? If it's just a gap filler, it shouldn't be so insanely troublesome to attain.

Also, it's rather disturbing how many people equate the game's "difficulty" and overall fun-factor with how many times you have to repeat existing content to move on. I dunno, I've always seen such filler repeat content as a cop out, not a value add. I mean, I've enjoyed the relic quests because they're so insanely difficult, and force you to master them (it's incredibly satisfying to spank Ifrit HM and Garuda HM, at least for me -- still working on Titan), but the tomestone requirements just insult to the intelligence of the player community at large.

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Because if you could farm myth in the same way you could philo stones id probably have 5-6 full sets of AF +1 by now. As I said before it's not meant to fully gear up on, but to give you a reward for time spent in the game. I never agreed it was the best way possible to do it, but at the very least it gives people that can't or won't do the harder content a way to get gear that's relevant to people who do spend that time and effort to get there, if by a slower and more tedious route.

OP, tell me which FF isn't grindy? :P

I personally don't mind the prices, I do however mind the way the cap is done. I don't mind having the cap, but more having it per week is bad. It should be a semi lifetime earned cap. ie 4 weeks after they introduced the cap, you could only have earned at most 1200, so the end result is the same, however you don't have people who are ahead due to server maintenance clearing the cap for them, and it also allows people to catch up.

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Originally Posted by Lucipurr

What the hell? I saw a guy with an AF+1 this morning...?! Did he no-life or exploit/hack?

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Hard to say. It's only been 4 weeks since early access, so technically it has only been possible to make 1200 mythology tomestones. Since Faerie isn't legacy, its really unlikely anyone's gotten that many (given at least a few days to clear story and get 50). Might have one or two pieces, however, if they got the 900 tomestones from starting the week after EA.

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Originally Posted by Feyniphia

OP, tell me which FF isn't grindy? :P

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Theres a difference between "grindy" and 5-months for a single gear set grindy.

Thats assuming that there aren't new dungeons besides AK to get Myth tomestones within those 5 months or so. The game did just launch a few weeks ago. I'm just assuming that they will come out with another dungeon or 2 with higher rewards. They will prolly raise the cap on tomestones per week or remove it entirely. Something harder than AK that will require better gear but also give a bigger reward when it comes to tomestones making it a lot easier to acquire your relic+1. Level cap will eventually be increased, meaning newer things will be comin out, newer armor sets to replace your AF+1 eventually.

5 months aint really that bad anyway considering it looks awesome, and has some of the best stats atm. In 5 months though Relic+1 might be old news, a sort of middle ground for the better gear that is coming out or already came out by then and will prolly only require 1/2 the time if not less than what you've predicted to acquire it based on any changes they make.

Af+1 might still be hard to obtain compared to better gear that comes out at that point, but then who knows there might be an AF+2 thats even more amazing and requires you to put in the time and effort if you wanna be the best while looking the best.

I don't see why they wouldn't keep an upgrade system on the iconic class defining gear afterall. I know this isn't FFXI but what they did was come out with AF between lv50-60 and it was pretty good, but at 75 you could +1 it and make it really good. Relic armor came out at 75 and was usually a replacement for some if not most gear (depending on your class, some pieces were just silly) and then they made it so you could upgrade your relic armor to +1. It wasn't easy to do either at the lv cap of 75 either unless you had a dedicated linkshell and even then it would take time and a lot of effort.

In more recent times you can even +2 your relic now making it even more useful, but then they came out with AF3 (Empyrean armor) when Abyssea came out. Which was also upgradeable to +2 and dwarfed everything till that point. Of course now Empyrean in XI is old hat and its all about delve or something, i haven't been keeping up with it really.

I'd rather just craft iLvL70 HQ gear and put materia on it...
i can do that right?

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Originally Posted by GilbertLapine

Theres a difference between "grindy" and 5-months for a single gear set grindy.

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While I agree it takes a lot of time, the grind is just set for them to get their bragging rights until they put better stuff.