Please buff Succor.

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Originally Posted by BrodyAlgana

I think FF needs this: White Mage, Paladin, Monk, Black Mage. That's it. Only four classes and maybe people would stop complaining about the differences between the classes. 1 tank, 1 healer, 1 melee dps, one range dps.
Otherwise you are just complaining because you want your class to be unstoppable.

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Talking about balance is what gets things fixed. There are quite a few issues with scholar which do infact put white mage reliably ahead of them in terms of healing output. Yes scholar has things that whm doesn't but the issues with scholar make it so that in a group I would gladly step down in place of another whm if it meant we could more easily finish an objective. This is a bad thing for balance.

It isn't about wanting a class to be unstoppable as it's like you said I can always swap. That said just swapping away from a poor pick instead of trying to work it out is what pigeon holes the game into 1 tank, 1 healer, 1 melee dps, 1 ranged dps which is again a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk

The instance in which you need to aoe heal happens a lot more than every 60 seconds; stop being naive. Do Titan HM with just scholars and see how well the Tumults are handled.

A 15 duration proc that happens fairly often at the rate you use cure I can easily be used to absorb spike damage. It's just like a BLM holding on to Firestarter procs when he expects a burst phase.

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You have a 35% uptime on Whispering Dawn for heavy AoE healing moments. For the other 65% of the time you can cast Succor and spotheal to your heart's content. How many fights actually REQUIRE that much consistent AoE healing? Maybe the last phases of Garruda, but it's certainly nothing beyond the capabilities of a SCH. HM Titan is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. maybe something in Bahamut after turn 2, I haven't really taken a hard look beyond that.

Titan is a major AoE healing fight the likes of which isn't seen prior to that point in the game, and it caters perfectly to the WHM strengths and the SCHs weakness. SCHs keep pointing at Titan like it's some sort of litmus test for game balance. How many fights are better served or equal by having a SCH as your healer? Damn near all the light party content is due to their flexibility. The ones that favor WHM are generally because of some ill thought out mechanic that doesn't consider pets. I know it sucks because Titan is the major roadblock to getting the Relic weapon and opening up Bahamut's; but it's still only one fight. Regardless, it's very rare I cast more than a Medica II more than once per minute on 90% of the bosses in game.

No, it's nothing like holding a Firestarter proc. Firestarter actually increases throughput damage by letting the Mage stay in his fire tree longer (thus more damage) as well as instant casting a fire spell. How exactly do you think Freecure works? a Cure II freecure does nothing different than a regular Cure II; it's just costs no MP. The free-cure proc isn't something you hold onto to deal with spike damage, it's no more effective than a regular Cure II. You spend it at the first reasonable point that isn't going to result in an overheal. . Our mana situation is not as stable as yours, we need to get every ounce of healing out of our free cure II as possible. It's the same reason we generally use our Shroud purely as a mana tool instead of an aggro dump. Freecure is just a bonus thing when it procs at convenient times, you absolutely do not factor it into the way you deal with spike damage. When the tank is spiking or you are behind, you use Cure II regardless of what's going on with Freecure... same as SCHs and Adlo. We also having nothing near as convenient as Lustrate, our oh shit's on a 5 minute cooldown and is saved for only the most dire of circumstances. I can only dream about how convenient it must be to be able to rapid fire off a 600-1200+ instant heal while on the move. Of course I wouldn't think to rage about Benedictions inadequacy in comparison, because that's a SCH strength and I'm perfectly fine with that.

the only thing i dislike about succor is the sacred soil chance

sacred soil is a 30s cooldown and consumes an aetherflow, make the free succor just be part of it instead of such a low chance it's not even worth noticing

Well, it was repeated over and over again that SCH and WHM were to be complementary and synergize well together. So stop complaining that 2 SCH cannot do the job properly because they are simply not meant to. 2 WHM work better together than 2 SCH only because HoTs stack when shields don't. But don't forget that other MMOs have shown how game breaking shields can be, so i understand why SE is treating this with extreme care. Imo, greater control over Faerie is improvement SE should focus on for making SCH a perfect job.

Not sure if it should be doubled but it does need buffed. As it stands, I end up being the single target healer and the WHM is the AoE healer.

What I've tended to do (only level 40 here, so this probably doesn't work out well at 50) is I'll pretty much for Eos to cast Embrace on the tank between every action I make. So Eos is pretty much healing the tank, while I heal up party members, unless the tank is tanking too much damage and then I'll only heal the tank.

So far, the only thing I think needs to happen to the scholar class, is for the faeries to only cast Embrace while in Steady. That way I can control when Whispering Dawn gets used. If I could use that during the AoE phases, things would be a lot better, but its generally on cooldown. I tried setting up keyboard macros to make it so that I would cast Embrace, the immediately Steady, followed by Obey, but it seems like half the time that doesn't work and she still casts Whispering Dawn when I don't want her to.

I think what a lot of people miss about scholars is that they are better are preventing damage vs healing through it. If we want to go back to Titan AoE garbage...

Titan is about to jump, Succor your group. 250~ shield on the group. thrown down sacred soil, group just took about ... 800-1200 less damage from his landing on the platform. hit group with another succor + a WHM medica 2 and group is at full HP, most likely with a shield on them again.

Titan is about to stop: Succor your group, Fey Illum. and AoE regain ability. + 1 medica 2 and group is at full. You can succor inbetween stomps also if you time it right so you'll get a little shield back on + the healing.

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Originally Posted by Mindcl0ud

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All this aside, granting an AOE preshield as strong as a 150 potency heal+10% damage reduction comes nowhere near healing twice the AOE damage with half the time, and MP with a basic medica.

WHM can still have their niche thanks to medica ii, and cure iii (not to mention regen), but as is, SCH have no decent options at all for AOE healing, and the aoe damage reduction doesn't make up for it. Succor should be buffed, or just tag medica useable by SCH so there's an alternative much like the choices between physic, and adloquium.

This will likely not be a popular post, but here goes...

Honestly, I feel SCH is pretty OP as it stands. I'm healing just fine (up to Darkhold currently) and still able to find time to apply my DoTs and Virus to mobs/bosses. Sure I make mistakes from time to time doing this, but more often than not, I keep the party alive and add some minor damage to the fights.

If my heals get buffed, I would feel that SCH would be too powerful on the healing side as Physic already does plenty. There's no need to buff Succor, just stack crit hit chance and get those awesome crit shields.

FYI, I also don't control my pet since there is no way to macro it in currently. And no, I don't feel it's necessary just yet to do so. Would I like it, sure, but do I need it... Nah.

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Originally Posted by peaches

In situations where everybodys HP is dropping super fast from unavoidable AoE, there isn't much I can do. Everybody is constantly losing HP, but I can't just cast Adloquium on the tank to heal the dps, since he's taking that AoE plus the damage of the boss/adds. So I have to focus on my healing, and hope my fairy heals the dps, until a point where the tank is fairly stabilized and I can spare 2.3s to cast and another 2.5s gcd.

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Let me just say in this case you should be manually controlling the fairy and telling her who to heal between your spell casts. If you leave Eos or Selene on auto and forget about them you are missing out on half of the Scholars power.

That said, Succor has a place. Not a very big place, and usually only after you get a free proc of it. I honestly have no problem with its potency, but the cost for what it does is rather high.

One of my favorite tricks as a scholar? Healing two people at the exact same time. try that as a white mage!