Chance of Relic Armor ???

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Honestly, I wish they didn't use the terms artifact armor and relic weapons in the first place.

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That's what they're called though. They're relics and artifacts. They're used properly, or I've completely misunderstood the concept and definition.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Honestly, I wish they didn't use the terms artifact armor and relic weapons in the first place.

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Just out of curiosity. What would you call it instead?

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Originally Posted by Laume

Just out of curiosity. What would you call it instead?

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In most games, it's just "epic" gear- usually each class has its own set of epic gear form a given content and the set has its own unique name. Sometimes they're tagged with "tier X" where x is the number of the set in terms of how many sets had been released before it e.g. the tier 3 WHM set.

The term "artifact armor" is unique to FFXI. I can't think of another game that used this. Part of the reason is most games had more job specific sets than FFXI ended up having (three). Coming up with different names for each tier is cumbersome- In fact, in FFXI, most people just said AF / AF2 / AF3 even though these terms were ambiguous because the first second and third original AF quests were often refered to as the AF1, AF2, and AF3 quest. Very few people ever said "relic armor" and "empyrean armor." Thus many games used the generic "tier" terminology.

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Originally Posted by lucytestarossa

Posted at the wrong place xDD

Is there any chance, SE going to release a set of relic Armor for each classes ?? or upgrade version of Artifact Armor??

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i remember yoshi-p saying that they may have a higher version of AF later on maybe high level.

@Alhanelem i think they are going to release AF2 seeing how i know i read it somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

IThe term "artifact armor" is unique to FFXI.

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Ah, so that's why you dislike they used it, got it. Petty reason but eh, it's not like there's an actual definition to the words or anything. I mean, the artifact gear in XIV had zero significance to the job's lore or anything, you know..the culture and history, usually what an artifact is.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Don't forget the Wandering Minstrel in 1.0 wore what could only be described as BRD AF2 (same design just different colour) - Yoshi-P's proxy gave us a sneak peak of what's to come in ARR perhaps? ;)

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No that wasn't af2, that was simply a re-coloured Bard AF (which they mentioned we would be able to dye sometime in the future).

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Originally Posted by Colino

No that wasn't af2, that was simply a re-coloured Bard AF (which they mentioned we would be able to dye sometime in the future).

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i remember them saying you never going to be allow to re-coloured any of the AF amor. The color is part of the job itself changing the color would change that fact.

Yoshi-p char had a different bard color just to make him standout.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Yoshi-p char had a different bard color just to make him standout.

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I distinctly remember a dev post saying that at first it would not be possible, but that after some time they might allow it. I really can't be bothered to go find it now.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Ah, so that's why you dislike they used it, got it. Petty reason but eh, it's not like there's an actual definition to the words or anything. I mean, the artifact gear in XIV had zero significance to the job's lore or anything, you know..the culture and history, usually what an artifact is.

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I can kind of understand his point. I mean the weapons and armor in ff5 weren't called "artifacts" either. I mean, I know a rose by any other name smells just as sweet. But if you tell someone, they're about to step in rose, it'd be a completely different outcome if by "rose", you mean 'dog fecal matter'. I think the artifact armor in ffxi was never meant to be standard issue. Same with relic, mythic, etc, etc. I mean, there are only so many ways you can say "powerful armor of a lost age." It kind of loses it's meaning after a while. Well, I personally don't mind a different term for the armors, just as long as we get a chance to improve on the gear we worked so hard for on our 1 job.

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Originally Posted by Laume

I can kind of understand his point. I mean the weapons and armor in ff5 weren't called "artifacts" either. I mean, I know a rose by any other name smells just as sweet. But if you tell someone, they're about to step in rose, it'd be a completely different outcome if by "rose", you mean 'dog fecal matter'. I think the artifact armor in ffxi was never meant to be standard issue. Same with relic, mythic, etc, etc. I mean, there are only so many ways you can say "powerful armor of a lost age." It kind of loses it's meaning after a while. Well, I personally don't mind a different term for the armors, just as long as we get a chance to improve on the gear we worked so hard for on our 1 job.

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I agree with this... and " the notion of christening them as a "powerful armour of a lost age" actually has a nice ring to it... "Allagan Armour", "Crystal Set" or "Cuirass of Emperor Xandes"... I really think the names are what makes obtaining them unique.

In the end, I just want it to have superb spiffy stats, look spiffy, and let it have some spiffy lore added to it.