Chrono Fantasy XIV

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

As for the power of the echo, we really don't know much about it. We could be reading and manipulating memories as far as we know.

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That's exactly what the Echo is.

The Echo allows the user to dive into the usee's memories, and experience them firsthand as though they were happening right before the user's eyes; and, to an extent, you can interact with that person's memories and manipulate them, and they WILL have an effect on that person. But the changes of a memory only effect that single person and nobody else.

The Echo isn't so much time travel as it is diving into a person's subconscious to view their memories in real-time.

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Originally Posted by Yucie

That's exactly what the Echo is.

The Echo allows the user to dive into the usee's memories, and experience them firsthand as though they were happening right before the user's eyes; and, to an extent, you can interact with that person's memories and manipulate them, and they WILL have an effect on that person. But the changes of a memory only effect that single person and nobody else.

The Echo isn't so much time travel as it is diving into a person's subconscious to view their memories in real-time.

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Ah, thanks for the clarification. I haven't been keeping up with that side of the story really.

So yeah, no time travel has really occurred yet.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

^ Proper use of sarcasm.

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FFXI doesn't have an awful time travel story, no. But he said almost always.

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

Where did they release this tidbit of information? The power of echo was certainly timetravel: when you interacted with people during the echo, they remembered in the present.

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No, you were able to interact with their memories NOT time travel

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

The thing is, we don't travel to the future.

We're put in stasis in another dimension for the five years.

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Welcome to the chamber of time!

Yes, you've been here for five years!

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Originally Posted by Raldo

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No more of this time travel crap.

Use it once to get us to 2.0, but after that, never again. Time travel almost always leads to bad bad stories.

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Gotta agree with this guy, though not necessarily with the bad stories part.

I realize that making whole new zones are harder(/more expensive) than taking a preexisting map and modifying it. But the maws and different dimensions are getting old. In the future, if they want to make an expansion, I would rather it be a completely new region than a recycled map.

Not only is the sense of exploration greater, but it makes the world as a whole seem larger.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I haven't been keeping up with that side of the story really.

So yeah, no time travel has really occurred yet.

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Yup. But there are some people that realize what you did. Like that one Seedseer that gets pissed at you for using Echo on her.

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Originally Posted by Rau

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I was thinking of this a while ago (I have no idea how long this meme pic has been around but I've seen it circulating for about a week) and eventually came to the conclusion that the stasis idea is the lesser of two stupid storytelling evils. Time travel is dopey, the Echo would be horrid, and time travel into the past would be even worse. Honestly, if they were going for the least cheesy and disappointing of hammered plot devices, I'll take the one they've given.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

Would you say that someone who awoke from cryogenic sleep (if it were possible) would have time traveled?

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No, though some people might argue for Rip Van Winkle, which is widely considered a time-travel narrative. However, how does being "sent beyond the reach of time" equate to cryogenic sleep? It seems like you're handily conflating the two.

As far as what's been shown to us, the characters are moving between two different points in time, unaffected by time's passage relative to Eorzea. See time dilation.