Live Letter Alpha rubber-banding and lag

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Originally Posted by IloveYouPumpkin

The live letter is filled with footage of this happening but it's really noticeable at about 1:31:58. You start seeing a lot of running in place and teleporting. Keep watching the bottom right when they minimize the game and you'll see a lot more.

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i was going to bring this up, but for obvious reasons i left it well enough alone.

people that are saying its just alpha fail to realize that Rubber Banding is a number one issue in all Finished MMO's, not do to poorly coded clients but do to a servers inability to handle data. XIV's original launch was just as crappy and this was with 1000's of people in the starting area's, not 800 people. Regression is not good

in the 1.0 alpha, just getting off the ferry dock at the beginning of the game was an exercise in frustration. People don't really realize how much a game usually changes from alpha to release. 1.0 changed a lot from alpha to middle-of-beta, the problem was it didn't change from beta to release.

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people that are saying its just alpha fail to realize that Rubber Banding is a number one issue in all Finished MMO's, not do to poorly coded clients but do to a servers inability to handle data. XIV's original launch was just as crappy and this was with 1000's of people in the starting area's, not 800 people. Regression is not good

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We're not regressing. I haven't played one MMO where there was rubberbanding that was not caused by poor connectivity. Rubberbanding in any online game occurs when your client and server eaach believe you are in a different location than you actually are- this is generally caused by severe lag, not any particular flaw in the client or server itself.

This reminds me of Alpha Testing 1.0

exact words were words to defend the game...

Lets hope it doesn't happen again

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Originally Posted by Thunderz

This reminds me of Alpha Testing 1.0

exact words were words to defend the game...

Lets hope it doesn't happen again

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Actually I kinda hope it happens again. That way they can fix it. Again this is assuming the worst case scenario that they didn't notice and fix anything but are just following the same motions again.

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Originally Posted by Genjuro

Actually I kinda hope it happens again. That way they can fix it. Again this is assuming the worst case scenario that they didn't notice and fix anything but are just following the same motions again.

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I don't want to BETA test a game again

if they screw up ARR I won't play this game simple fact

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Originally Posted by Thunderz

I don't want to BETA test a game again

if they screw up ARR I won't play this game simple fact

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True. This is SE's last hope. I'm sure that a lot of people will feel the same.

If this doesn't make it, I'm sure a whole new restructuring will be in effect, and it won't just be the development team, it'll probably be the head of SE, Wada himself.

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Originally Posted by IloveYouPumpkin

If you can link or tell me where in the live letter they talk about it I would appreciate it. For now I'll just take your word for it. Anyways, this thread is just pointing something out that irks me. I want to love FFXIV just like everyone here, that's why I point these things out.

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Keep in mind, though... You mention it happening almost at the end of the video. For the entire video up to that point, consider how smoothly and well it performs.

How many people you reckon were on-screen with him at any given time, as well as in the immediate area but that exceeded the draw limit? All the running, jumping, emoting, fighting, spell-casting, people on Chocobos, running around mobs and NPCs, etc. Look how smoothly it's running -even for an Alpha build.

I was pretty damn impressed with how great it looks and smoothly it's running for being an earlier Alpha build. That they felt confident enough to show that live while doing the broadcast, and were relaxed enough to joke around, and speak very frankly and confidently about the game speaks volumes as well - or should anyway.

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Originally Posted by IloveYouPumpkin

Just because I'm sure they noticed it doesn't tell me they're going to spend more money and resources fixing it.

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With the expense they've put into turning this game around to date, all the revamping, re-building, all the staff they've dedicated to it, the expense put into even creating that "End of An Era" video we just saw (which is not cheap to produce), the months they lost revenue by keeping the game running without charging players a dime to log in and play, you seriously need to be told that they'd do what's necessary to fix an issue with lag in order for you to believe it?

Wow. I gotta say, there's cynicism... and then there's you, which I'd rank at verging on obstinate intellectual dishonesty.

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Originally Posted by Inaaca

This is exactly the attitude that got us the 1.0 launch. Don't assume that SE will fix everything to your expectations if you don't say anything about it.

Please please criticize this game if you see problems with it. If you don't, how else will SE know what you want or where they need improvement?

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You obviously weren't there on the 11th final event and how we weren't able to move or do shit at all for that matter with only 200 ppl in mor dhona which is a HUGE zone bcuz of massive lag that alpha footage is pulling off something x1000 better already so STFU with that over used card already

Hope you're right Preypacer.