New playable Race [[[[[ Moogle ]]]]]

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Capturing "some" does not a playable race make. You do not explain the purpose for this. This makes the whole thing sound like it's pulled out of thin air, and not the stuff of good storytelling.

An example. The miqote of Ala Mihgo are cat girls, but then GARLEAN SCIENCE! They lost their rails in 2.0! And now fight the garleans!

Sahagin were a bunch of ornery seadogs, now playable because GARLEAN SCIENCE! Changed their colors!

Behemoths not ridable? The GARLEAN SCIENCE came from the north...

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You didn't actually read anything I said did you.... also your forgetting some rather important facts about 2.0... They are 1. Rewriting a lot of the lore, moogles might be one of them, and 2. We are going to be at the end of the 7th umbral era, in the future, an unannounced amount of time has passed since we were sent away. Many things can happen. Maybe we were away for 100 years, and the Garleans enslaved these captured moogles and force breed them over 100 years to the extent of a mass population of them.

All I was doing was hypothesising a way they can make it fit into the story for us current players on how they could possibly introduce Moogles as a race, of course I am not saying it is fact. I am just saying how it could happen. Also in all honest I think at least 100 or more years have passed since the meteor even that will happen to us at the end of 1.0 to 2.0 because you can see the destroyed old big trees scattered around and uprooted, but there are younger newer trees growing which would take sometime after a hellfire from the skys burn them down.

Again we won't know till either the info is released.... or 2.0 is released. I am just wanting to express my favor for a Moogle PC race and how from the lore I picked up in the game how it could occur, with the info given to us.

I dont know why people are acting like it is so out of the realm of possibility for their to be 2 different subspecies of moogle when each playable race has 2 different sub races attached to them during the character creation process. This picture specifically:

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Originally Posted by TaalAzura

http://www.finalfantasyd20.com/ffd20...2-moogle-a.jpg

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Reminds me of the differentiation between highlander and midlander. One is slender and baby faced while the other is rugged and built.

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Originally Posted by Xmbei

You didn't actually read anything I said did you.... also your forgetting some rather important facts about 2.0... They are 1. Rewriting a lot of the lore, moogles might be one of them, and 2. We are going to be at the end of the 7th umbral era, in the future, an unannounced amount of time has passed since we were sent away. Many things can happen. Maybe we were away for 100 years, and the Garleans enslaved these captured moogles and force breed them over 100 years to the extent of a mass population of them.

All I was doing was hypothesising a way they can make it fit into the story for us current players on how they could possibly introduce Moogles as a race, of course I am not saying it is fact. I am just saying how it could happen. Also in all honest I think at least 100 or more years have passed since the meteor even that will happen to us at the end of 1.0 to 2.0 because you can see the destroyed old big trees scattered around and uprooted, but there are younger newer trees growing which would take sometime after a hellfire from the skys burn them down.

Again we won't know till either the info is released.... or 2.0 is released. I am just wanting to express my favor for a Moogle PC race and how from the lore I picked up in the game how it could occur, with the info given to us.

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I think this is bad idea, and that you are not justifying it properly with saying on one hand you're "using the lore" you picked up from the game, then claim SE is "rewriting the lore" when you are called on making completely different creatures and still calling them ffxiv's version of moogles. Garlean science is not some magical plot beast to rewrite already existing elements in the Eorzean setting.

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Originally Posted by Colino

Nice hyperbole there.

I never said it's specifically because there are NPC moogles, but rather that they will be serving a really specific function in the game (that ONLY moogles will do).

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By which reasoning you conclude that it is impossible for them to be a playable race, because of a specific NPC function that their race is to serve.

The hyperbole is on your part. I merely satirize. (o.0 )

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Originally Posted by Eagleheart

By which reasoning you conclude that it is impossible for them to be a playable race, because of a specific NPC function that their race is to serve.

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I said nearly impossible. And yes that is my conclusion as I personally find it highly unlikely they will ever be a playable race for reasons I already mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Eagleheart

The hyperbole is on your part. I merely satirize. (o.0 )

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Satire is ironic hyperbole, it doesn't change what you said were gross exaggerations and misinterpretations of what I said.

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Originally Posted by bahley

I think this is a great idea if they looked more like the bunny-like moogles of FFXII. These things just wouldn't work as a playable race lol

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UGH! LalaFAILS are bad enough and every fracking where as it is, we don't need even more tiny people wondering around.

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Originally Posted by TaalAzura

After years of evolution, some moogle has evolved into more combat-oriented beings:

http://www.finalfantasyd20.com/ffd20...2-moogle-a.jpg

i would play the hell out of that race.

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That's not a Mog. That's a Lalafail wearing a Mog's skin. Don't you see the stitches on the arm and leg.

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Originally Posted by Colino

I said nearly impossible. And yes that is my conclusion as I personally find it highly unlikely they will ever be a playable race for reasons I already mentioned.



Satire is ironic hyperbole, it doesn't change what you said were gross exaggerations and misinterpretations of what I said.

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The point, sir, is that your reasons are completely illogical. (O.< ) Because an NPC race serves a noted function in the game, it is unlikely for them to be made a playable race.

You state "It is unlikely that the Moogle race will become playable because they serve a vital NPC function."

I state "Therefore, there should be no playable Rogadeyn females, no? Or, for that matter, Hyuran females."

You then state that it is hyperbole to make such a comparison. Elaborate as to why.

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Originally Posted by Eagleheart

You state "It is unlikely that the Moogle race will become playable because they serve a vital NPC function."

I state "Therefore, there should be no playable Rogadeyn females, no? Or, for that matter, Hyuran females."

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There is no function in the game that an NPC Roegadyn can do that an NPC Hyur can not. However if we are getting the mognet (which we are) that is something ONLY mogs do. And it's not just the mog net I'm talking about.

How much of the game have you played through? Did you see any of the stories about the elementals and how the shroud works? Do you know that in the lore Moogles essentialy serve as messengers of not only the mystical elementals but also the Gods themselves? They are essentially forest priests.

Again I'm not saying it's completely impossible but lore wise it does not fit at all as they are supposed to be mystical and magical characters that are the sort of "missing link" between normal folk like us and the elementals. Making them a playable race would kind of spoil all that.

So lore and some binary are the only things making them unplayable.

Running counter to the above reasons, Moogles are popular and very integral to FF as a whole. Ask a dozen people for their favorite character from FFVI, four of 'em gonna say "Mog!"

As for lore making it unreasonable to introduce a new playable race, that begs the question how they'd be managing anything they introduce. Some folks want Bangaa, I am not among them, but there it is. Others want Viera. In what lore were Viera ever mentioned? Never. Dev Team gonna change things and make it up as they go, fitting the lore to the race. The same could be done for moogles.

Plus, it's the end of the world. All bets are off!

Moogle Bard playing songs buffing the PT

would be kinda cool

or Mime, like ff6