Monthly Sub Increase

Give me one example of a game that increased its subscription prices and actually became better according to the playerbase as a result. I'll wait.

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Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura

Hate to tell you this but that program wasn't used to cheat in Raids. Might wanna do some research on the actually ones.

Other notes, mogstation helps them keep the sub the same price. If they were to increase the price they would have to increase the content in the patch cycles to make up for it.

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I hate to tell you, that she/he meant 2 different things. The mare addon and the one that's been used to cheat in raids. A glance at a comment doesn't always work.

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Originally Posted by Antharaes

I hate to tell you, that she/he meant 2 different things. The mare addon and the one that's been used to cheat in raids. A glance at a comment doesn't always work.

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I hate to say it but I failed to see that so tell me where in that reply does it mention anything of the sort?

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Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura

I hate to say it but I failed to see that so tell me where in that reply does it mention anything of the sort?

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I hate to ask, but if I can differentiate the 2, why can't you ?

Sooooo.. because they are failing to invest their money into making the game better and instead invested in FF16 and other sideprojects. Its our fault we arent forking enough subscription money to fund their... what? Improving the game? Havent seen it.

Let me put it like this. If they raised subfees. I would quit out of principle.

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Originally Posted by Kurando

The sub pricing has barely changed at all for many years; perhaps changing this could result in whatever is necessary to improve the current state of the game, i.e. more staff, more resources, more frequent/better content etc. I'm rather surprised it has not increased yet with the current on-going global financial climate.

Do you think it would make much difference? Would you or the wider player base will willing to accept one?

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No. I'm not fronting them the money. They need to deliver more first, and at this point it now needs to be more for me not more for other players. Then I might, yes. But to be clear the way they spread content across many many many months, but saved up content is braindead by the time you've saved it up that's too the way overgearing kills it so quickly, they will need to produce a LOT more content for a price hike. The game is cheap for what I expect, but currently way overpriced for what I was getting.

Putting aside the... shall we say divisive reception DT has received, it's simply a much better and far less risky venture to toss more stuff on the Mogstation. Raising the sub fee comes with the serious risk of driving away enough customers over time that any financial benefit erodes over time whereas adding some extra stuff to the Mogstation just milks players who willingly offer their money.

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Originally Posted by Kurando

The sub pricing has barely changed at all for many years; perhaps changing this could result in whatever is necessary to improve the current state of the game, i.e. more staff, more resources, more frequent/better content etc. I'm rather surprised it has not increased yet with the current on-going global financial climate.

Do you think it would make much difference? Would you or the wider player base will willing to accept one?

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The problem is not the money, it is that they don't get enough staff. I mean, on how many live letters did they try to get more staff for this game at the end of the live letter? They try to get more staff for the game but have problems with this, not the money.

The sub price may not have directly increased, but indirectly the longer patch cycle means we pay 1.5 additional subs more for 1 patch worth of content (that is the same ammount or less of said content)

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Originally Posted by KurisuCerrias

The sub price may not have directly increased, but indirectly the longer patch cycle means we pay 1.5 additional subs more for 1 patch worth of content (that is the same ammount or less of said content)

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I was going to say this. It already has gone up 50% so no.

The real issue is the fact most of the money we put into that sub is spread all over SE and not put back into FFXIV. That's been an issue for most of FFXIV'S life. We technically financed games like Foamstars and Forspoken.