FRU has been cleared without Tanks!

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Originally Posted by Kandraxx

Meanwhile they don't add Trust for Ultimate, Savage or generally all content which would easily be possible given it's nature or else the clear rate would be 100%. So, in full Yoshi P style to keep up the FFXIV endgame charade and artificial difficulty whenever and wherever possible you need to get 7 others by using a 3rd party site, align everyone's schedule, actually get along with them, they need to get along with you and each other, multiply the memorization process and chance for slip ups x8 and turn something what would take a solo player 1-2 hours to clear into a dozen hours ordeal.

But they don't even get the not-so-subtle hints as to why the endgame participation is somewhere at or below 10% and 2/3 Ultimate clears are bought when the boosting sites have sales.

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There's a world of difference between "I want to do this content with 7 other people on a limited job that's restricted from it for arbitrary reasons" and "I want to play my massively multiplayer game without having to interact or deal with other people", wtf are you smoking?

Can’t wait for this clear to be used as an excuse to nerf spreadlo

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Can’t wait for this clear to be used as an excuse to nerf spreadlo

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I doubt they even care enough about the state of tanks or healers to even address it.

I would say wait until 8.0 but we all know tanks will get upgraded Bulwark, thrill ect. While healers will get two new heal ogcds and likely dots removed to make space.

Easy fix. Give TBs the same mechanic that explodes when the target dies, as certain other attacks do, or

Suck it up and force players to join ultimates with "standard" comp.

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Originally Posted by Inputnamehere

Easy fix. Give TBs the same mechanic that explodes when the target dies, as certain other attacks do, or

Suck it up and force players to join ultimates with "standard" comp.

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This is the worst way to approach a design issue with tanks and healers. Your not actually fixing the issue that tanks and healers should feel impactful, your just making them be there for the sake of being there.

The difficulty of this fight was the result of many people normalizing the use of third party tools to solve mechanics in TOP, thinking they were entitled to clear every fight.

*Cries in Warrior Unga Boongas*

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

This is the worst way to approach a design issue with tanks and healers. Your not actually fixing the issue that tanks and healers should feel impactful, your just making them be there for the sake of being there.

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Not me. The development team.

Looking at where the game's heading, I won't be surprised if they resolve to take such measures.

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Originally Posted by Asari5

i have no clue about thst fight, but sounds as if tank busters are the only reason tanks are 'needed'.
they really need to increase the frequency we get dmg... not just in fru

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Not really anything new. It's arguably been that way since late Shadowbringers but certainly since Endwalker.
Tank busters are the only remaining mechanic that attempts to make tanks look like more than simplistic DPS with an innate -20% damage debuff.

Exactly this all boils down to a design issue generated from the loss of agro as a mechanic

With no agro tanks functionally don’t have any job mechanics. Tankbusters are the only mechanic that exists that forces them to engage with their mitigation toolkit

Because of this loss of tank agro tanks have basically been given as compensation healer mechanics which pushes healers to the side because tanks are bulkier and do more damage than healers

The design of the game needs to engage with tank design so tank design doesn’t encroach on healer design which will fix both roles