New Yoshi-P Interview

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

That's not what he's saying at all. He's saying he came to the realization that there is no perfect design that will make everyone happy and any time the devs make a choice there will always be people who want the opposite, so that's just something they have to take into account when making decisions.

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I agree that he's saying that, but if you break it down a logical conclusion, all I see is excuse making at worst and redundancy at best. Yoshi P is saying it's inpossible to please everyone. But players are not asking for that, and even if they are, it's the product maker's obligation to interpret it sensibly. Everyone knows there's no magic patch cycle that will please 100% of players-- redundacy. It's extremely possible to deliver a patch that satisfies a range of player concerns and preferences-- he's just making excuses here to defend their egregious lack of accountability for delivering updates and content that reflects the all time highs Endwalker delivered.

And what I mean when I say that, is that EW delivered them immense critical and commercial success, extreme sales, but DT is well agreed upon to reflect the same (low).investment.

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Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe

he's just making excuses here to defend their egregious lack of accountability for delivering updates and content that reflects the all time highs Endwalker delivered.

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more like an excuse for being lazy, sticking to the same formula for the past 10 years and not think about a solid gamedesign. what's more crazy is : they probably won't shake that formula for the years to come at all cost even if it mean killing the game (not saying the game will die but you got the idea)

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Originally Posted by Fatch38

more like an excuse for being lazy, sticking to the same formula for the past 10 years and not think about a solid gamedesign. what's more crazy is : they probably won't shake that formula for the years to come at all cost even if it mean killing the game (not saying the game will die but you got the idea)

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I think its both tbh. Yes, it's true that issues are ongoing regarding the patch cycles. But I think part of why there's so much criticism now as far as "is the sub worth it" is born of the financial gain SE garners from XIV, particularly hitting an all time high of subscriptions, sales and perhaps most importantly, player good will with 6.0.

And that's not to say they're doing nothing. I think it's nice they're working on more midcore content-- too bad it's at the end of the expansion life cycle. I think it's nice they are looking at job updates-- who knows when we will see those ("wait until 8.0").

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

I love him but its easy:

You HAVE to make hardcore and easier stuff AT THE SAME TIME. No ifs or buts, you need more, if you cant do that, you need a bigger team.

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Exactly this.

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Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus

For all the rainbows, lollipops, holding hands and kumbaya singing NA believes them to be, I love how blunt and vicious the JP forums can get compared to ours. Almost makes me wish I knew Japanese.

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The EN forums are plenty blunt and vicious if you ask me. I know some Japanese and occasionally lurk on the JP forums. The sunshine and rainbows impression is only because it’s way more heavily moderated over there and they’re pretty aggressive about quickly deleting/locking offending posts/threads.

But at least it shows that somebody from SE is actually reading posts on JP forums, unlike the crickets we always get over here.

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Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe

I agree that he's saying that, but if you break it down a logical conclusion, all I see is excuse making at worst and redundancy at best.

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That is because you're twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to find things to be mad about. The game isn't without issues but this armchair game dev tin foil hat nonsense is a waste of time to discuss.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

That is because you're twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to find things to be mad about. The game isn't without issues but this armchair game dev tin foil hat nonsense is a waste of time to discuss.

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Yoshi P himself has commented on lack of a budget and outright said they have a lack of qualified hires that they would need to execute work. Not that you need his statements, you'd have to be completely naive to think they don't absolutely pad the hell out of their content purposely.

They do it because they know there's a baseline of subscribers who will happily accept it.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

I see we're still in the plugging his ears part of the cycle with yoshida, hopefully he actually gets the feedback at some point and desn't just continue with his "the beatings will continue till morale improves" sitaution where they push certain characters to the front, load up on high end content, and then shut down any criticism and pretend like everything is all according to keikaku.

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the feedback he'll listen to is the mass unsubs that will eventually happen

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

I love him but its easy:

You HAVE to make hardcore and easier stuff AT THE SAME TIME. No ifs or buts, you need more, if you cant do that, you need a bigger team.

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it's what's needed but will never happen, they're stuck taking away and replacing things in the place of what's taken away, but never ADDING to the content.

He talks like this is his second year on the job and not the 10th of one of the most popular MMO out there and SE's money maker.

I don't think anybody pays attention to "just get more budget and make 4x more content" feedback. Even if it probably is a reasonable expectation given the games financial success, expecting any sort of fairness from corporations is not how reality works.

The issue to me is so much side content that's released is poorly designed, there's no consideration made for keeping it playable after the subsequent patch release.

Blue mage? Dead
Bozja? Dead
Variant dungeons? Dead
Island sanctuary? Dead
Eureka orthos? Dead
Unreal trials? Dead because they literally scrap them the next patch (Unsub whenever you want but also make sure you keep repeatedly resubbing or you'll miss out).

Even the baseline content in roulettes has become boring thanks to an overpowered item sync breaking most of the remaining content (bosses are skipping phases entirely, dungeons are a face roll).

If yoshi-p can't decide on which audience he wants to keep and appeal to I will argue it should be the ones interested in the game as advertised.
I want a fantasy adventure that encourages socialisation and cooperation with other adventurers that is styled after classic final fantasy games while paying homage to those titles.
I do not want to be mindlessly solo grinding mobs, sitting in limsa for 1 hour waiting for my party finder to fill or to be afk beeskneeing with modded TOS breaking catgirls in a cyberpunk themed clubnight.