M4S has officially been beaten without healers in week 2

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

I mean, this isn't strictly true. This game actually has a recurring mechanic where everyone in the party will be reduced to 1 HP and given a Doom debuff which must be cleansed by healing to full. The only oGCD which can resolve that entirely on its own is Macrocosmos, and prior to level 90 that mechanic does not trigger it. (Fun fact you discover if you do Seat of Sacrifice EX unsynced to mount farm.)

Now, I'm not saying that is a difficult mechanic by any stretch of the imagination. (Or that healing in this game is remotely in a good place.)

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The thing is I don't even know if I would call those a heal check for the healers. Unless it's meant to check "do you actually have a healer".

When we have a DPS check, it means not only the DPS have to hit button, they need to have certain level of competency and optimization to meet the check.

On the other hand, most of the healer check is more like a "are you moron?" check. Every healer check can be overcome easily as long as the healers care enough to just spam their GCD. Most of the time when a healer check is fail it's usually because the healer try to sneak in damage GCD during the mech.

Is that how much of a joke the DPS check is? But congrats to the team that pulled it off in such a short span of time.

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Originally Posted by Derio

Is that how much of a joke the DPS check is? But congrats to the team that pulled it off in such a short span of time.

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I was under the impression tanks dealt more damage than healers.

That's awesome, congratulations to them. I'm guessing they're some fairly high skilled players!

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ok cool story, gamers be gameing. love it

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Originally Posted by Derio

Is that how much of a joke the DPS check is? But congrats to the team that pulled it off in such a short span of time.

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Its not like the PLD were playing clemency gaming.
They got one of the 25 fastest kill at the time of their kill.

And onto the speedrunning argument, there is a big difference between breaking a 10+ year old game where speedrunner know every bug exploit and tricks possible and a live game currently being balanced / patched / fixed, done on the second week since this content released

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Originally Posted by All_Nonsense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xINq44-heQc

Please discuss.

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And what's the issue? 99% of people can't do that

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

And what's the issue? 99% of people can't do that

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The issue is it being possible at all on week 2 of content release.
Pretty sure 99% of players haven't cleared M4S yet.

healer are already useless in most form on content, and know, in the hardest content in the game, on the second week, we are already shown that it is better to play with tanks instead.
Healers do the least damage in the game, are the most fragile role in the game, and their niche isn't even useful to the group since tank can do it + do better damage and be safer, what more do you need ?

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

-elite players

-not optimal comp

-PF too stupid to do this

-can you do it

Upvotes to the left thanks

(/s just for safety)

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"it's not a problem i swear guys"
point to any other mmo's endgame raids final boss being cleared without healers week 2, i'll wait.

I am not discredeting the skill of the players involved, but this should never be possible ever.

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Originally Posted by All_Nonsense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xINq44-heQc

Please discuss.

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I appreciate them posting the evidence.