Held Hostage in the last Dawntrail Trial

Let Phoenix Downs be used in combat. OT would be a perfect person to run over to the downed healers and pick them up.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

Far too many here are ok with all this.

When the healers die the dps will follow sooner or later because of unavoidable damage and there quite a few dot this time.
When I die then as a dps is that also my fault? BLM for example has no self healing.
It’s not always my own fault for dying.
A wrong stack or spread, a tower not taken, a cleave. All these can kill someone who did a good job till then.

There should just be a restart vote ingame.

„Just watch YouTube“
No thanks I prefer to actually play my game. That’s also why I hate crystal tower.

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I agree.

People forget that tanks can make more mistakes than DPS, unfair for them to judge other players first time to a trial. I am sure the tanks made mistakes in the first tries, but there were no direct consequences for them, healers will keep them alive.

People learn more by doing, than watching. You can watch a guide, but actually learning the fight by doing it. People need to learn from their mistakes and try again. It is not nice for the tank (or any other player) to ignore other players that are asking to reset the fight. You are part of a team having fun, not to show off your skills.

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Originally Posted by Karious

There's already two active threads on this topic.

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Maybe the problem isn't the threads but the bad game design.

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Originally Posted by Karious

Just don't die???

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Do you ever get tired of being ratio'd is the real question...they died to a raidwide, genius.

I'm pretty sure you can just leave the duty, once you are dead

if you really cant cope with someone carrying you

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

I'm pretty sure you can just leave the duty, once you are dead

if you really cant cope with someone carrying you

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You can’t, while a party member is in combat you can’t abandon duty

It’s why if you get a really really slow tower run people will drop after the first boss not during it

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Originally Posted by Bopsheezi

Let Phoenix Downs be used in combat. OT would be a perfect person to run over to the downed healers and pick them up.

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I'd double down on my stance:

Give Tanks a hardcast raise (like healers have, no swiftcast)

THEN, give ALL remaining DPS a hardcast raise, but make it melee range. (Call it First Aid or something, make it a long recast time if need be)

Items are fine, but having it as an ability means it won't be a point of contention later (people mad you forgot one) and I personally just don't want to dedicate a slot of my bag to a niche item.

I would add though, if they added raise for all, that phoenix down should be instant-cast, and usable in combat as a kind of pinch-save move.

They do need to add some kind of special tuning to tanks where they take increased damage from failed mechanics. As it stands now, eating 2-3 aoes on healer or dps is a death, fine, but on tank you can eat 5+ aoes in succession and not even feel it.
About asking tanks to reset, I will agree with others posted that it really doesn't work.
In my experience it just makes them get an attitude in chat and insult the party for dying. In reality they usually failed the same mechanic, they just took less damage from it or can self heal between hits.

I wouldn't mind more Jobs getting the ability to raise, but instead of a cast time you could give it a longer CD... Something like 2 minutes...

I am rather sure from the sounds of it, it goes in the opposit direction and Summoner loses there raise.
Atleast thats what they mentioned.

But making Phoenix Down the item usable in combat would probably would help aswell.