Please don't change Viper

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Originally Posted by DES_VII

agreed leave it be. Well positionals is such a archaic thing to me, Could careless about removing some. Other than that the Class/Job is fun I love it.

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I think the positionals have their place in Viper. Unlike most melees Viper isn't a weaving heavy job with your only true weave being the end of your normal combo since the long CD attack has a longer GCD so weaving isn't really a thing since it's so easy.
Positionals make up the skill ceiling instead of weaving which I think is good for the job. It's not like it's incredibly positional heavy, it does less than Samurai and probably even Reaper per minute.

I don't have a horse in this race as melee just doesn't appeal to me, but I've seen jobs I like be destroyed by SE trying to please the people that don't like them.

In this game where you make it as easy as possible for a player to play as many classes as they want, please let each one cater to the people that like that specific gameplay.

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Originally Posted by DES_VII

agreed leave it be. Well positionals is such a archaic thing to me, Could careless about removing some. Other than that the Class/Job is fun I love it.

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Melee rotations are so simple at this point that positionals are the only thing that make them even remotely engaging, and most hard bosses nowadays are just wall bosses anyway.

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Originally Posted by Singularity

I don't have a horse in this race as melee just doesn't appeal to me, but I've seen jobs I like be destroyed by SE trying to please the people that don't like them.

In this game where you make it as easy as possible for a player to play as many classes as they want, please let each one cater to the people that like that specific gameplay.

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unfortunately, SE caters to the lowest possible denominator. some half blind one armed armadillo somewhere probably had a problem with Viper and pleaded for it to be changed. after that extensive feedback, it was deemed important to fix.

Would this be a classic Blizzard "Fun Detected" moment?

Eh, I'm never going to feel bad about the removal of positionals since they don't add anything to my gameplay experience by trying to do them, so I end up ignoring most of them anyway. I'll stay on rear as Ninja, and flank for everything else, but that's it, I'm not here to dance around so I can do a tiny bit of extra damage I won't even notice.

General rotation is a different story though, was it not the point of Viper to have fast-paced strikes and such with the constant glowing buttons?

People need to learn the job before complaining about it, hugh, if you can't process how to play Viper after playing it enough, it's a you issue, not the job, damn, please don't change it square, especially when it come to "busyness".

Not even one reply could be posted before a healer made it about themselves.

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Originally Posted by freekyfreezer

Not even one reply could be posted before a healer made it about themselves.

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It was more a cheeky comment about the design philosophy in general for everyone playing , more so than healers specifically. I.e: if theres even a small amount of friction between a player and the ability to pilot a particular job, it will more than likely be made "more accessible". Like with what we have here. A summoner would've been just as valid making a similar sarcastic comment

Anyway, i do think its a bit ridiculous to push forward changes when its only been a week, for one. For two, i dont see how "busyness and positionals" are a issue? This has been monks identity for years, even in spite of the accessibility changes over the years. And while theyre not the most popular, people still love and play them lol

DO NOT CHANGE VIPER PLEASE