Dawntrail's mediatour dungeon was already cleared without healers.

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Originally Posted by Enjuden

You can't expect dungeons to actually be difficult when they never have been outside of one instance, yes?

LCDs can't be bothered to hit cooldowns so healing will be harder. Because that's who we should clearly balance toward :) /s

If you don't play content higher than regular dungeons/story, then you're not allowed to have fun in any role. That's just how the game always has been. Again, they cried about not being able to clear Vishap/Shinryu when it was current, so how do you expect them to do harder dungeons, or having content that requires a pulse, let alone a semblance of thought?

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They shouldn't make big promises about improving encounter/content design when one of the longest standing sour points is that anything that isn't extreme or higher tends to be a snoozefest.

Them caving to those few people who wanted everything to be made easier instead of forcing them to actually improve was also a mistake to begin with.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

They shouldn't make big promises about improving encounter/content design when one of the longest standing sour points is that anything that isn't extreme or higher tends to be a snoozefest.

Them caving to those few people who wanted everything to be made easier instead of forcing them to actually improve was also a mistake to begin with.

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You're a bit behind on the news there. That's been mistranslated and we've known this for weeks now.

I was pretty excited too then heard that, so my hopes for Dawntrail being anything less than more of the same went down the drain. Only thing I can think of is maybe they'll do something with EX/Criterion, but I bet you'll get the same people complaining how they can't do the content.

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Originally Posted by Espon

You seem to be confused and think I'm defending the current state of the game when all I'm saying is that that it's pointless to expect sweeping changes to the game's designed when we knew a long time ago that was never going to be the case. It's like a kid being told he's not going to get a Playstation 5 for Christmas then on Christmas Day he's angry because it turns out he didn't get a Playstation 5.

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Wanting to not be bored in a dungeon is not a sweeping change but a minor tweak to HP values and damage output/ intake.

It could easily be solved with something gaming addressed literally decades ago. Difficulty settings. XIV has that, but only going down from "normal" to easy and very easy. Why not also to hard? Or incentivise min ilvl where you can up the damage percentage with five times the drop rate or turn it into a daily roulette for Moogle tomes.

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Originally Posted by Enjuden

You're a bit behind on the news there. That's been mistranslated and we've known this for weeks now.

I was pretty excited too then heard that, so my hopes for Dawntrail being anything less than more of the same went down the drain. Only thing I can think of is maybe they'll do something with EX/Criterion, but I bet you'll get the same people complaining how they can't do the content.

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I mean no it hasn't, he doubled down on enhanced encounters in his response to job homogenization and why the 7.0 job update was so tame.

Hello Kitty island adventure was more difficult.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqBWp00XNZs

Not a fan of this guy in particular but I think its pretty sad we're still here in this same boat again.


Guess the healers aren't going to have any engagement outside of ultimate raids again. :rolleyes:

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I am 100% sure that if healers weren't mandatory in roulettes people would just go with premade. Sometimes it does feel like you are griefing by playing healer, and would do a much better job just taking a RDM instead.

That with the addition of some changes literally looks like a big F you to the Healers.
WHM gets a dash - this is good, you can think of it as the wind itself picking you up and pushing you to safety (or danger)
SCH - gets WHM cosplay, the ability itself is nice, but it's more button bloat with a small ability you can activate every 3 minutes. And all the DoTs the SCH players have been begging for since SHB? You can have 1 every 2 minutes...
AST - Got the RNG removed and the playstyle of using cards to buff your allies. Have fun with the streamlined deck every 60 seconds.
SGE - Also seems to get it good, being given the DoTs the SCH players were begging for!

Literally, why haven't SCH and SGE abilities been switched?
SCH is the strategist who uses different tactics to their advantage, shields to protect their allies, DoTs to inflict their enemies with status effect and having their trusted Faerie handle the healing on the go, with some aid from the SCH when needed. They could have just given SCH all of their DoTs back, make them instacast (to prevent the whine about not healing because of casting) and use different resources to get to them (MP, Faerie gage, eather flow, followup to a healing ability, or the one that we did get after Chain)
SGE is a futuristic doctor who manipulates crystals, eather and uses Math to find the best ways to heal a wound, while at the same time dealing copious amounts of damage to their enemies. (turn them into a cyborg that heals and shoots lasers)

Once again my genuine hope for DT is anyone who is even 10% competent at healer simply abandons healer and forces these god tanks and DPS who support the god tanks to wait in 30 minute queues to get cure 1 spammers so the entire trinity can burn down around them

The absolute disrespect to the healer role is beyond a joke at this point and if you still support the tank design in modern 14 I hope you suffer with crap queues the entire expansion

This look perfect not gonna lie.

Many healer players like myself suffers from extreme anxiety and having to cure the tank feels very very stressful like uff you won't believe.

Now in DT having to cast cure 1 every 6o seconds sounds great! I m looking forward to let others jobs revive by themselves.

Thanks SE for listen to us after many years complaining. Healers aren't for DPS or utility they are for h e a l i n g

Should've known this thread would popup. The fact that non-Healer jobs have so many sustain abilities in DT is insulting.

Paladin: Gets personal barrier application.
Warrior: Gets personal regen & OP BW.
Dark Knight: Gets personal Excotigation.
Gunbreaker: Gets personal Protraction.
Monk: Gets an AOE heal.
Pictomancer: Gets an AOE heal, personal barrier, and AOE barrier.
Summoner: Gets an AOE heal.

Do non-healer players not realize how dumb this is? Having the Healer role being meaningful in only Savage and Ultimate fights isn't good for the game. I know dungeons are supposed to be easy content, but not THIS easy. Especially after 70+ levels. Give me more opportunities to heal, please!!

I am once again asking for unlimited stun on holy to see how tanks feel being a vestigial role