Reintroduce Maat in 2.0

I always liked how if you reraised inside the Maat fight, he'd just spam Asuran Fists until you died again. :D

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Originally Posted by Elexia

The second we learn he mastered every job in Eorzea is the second we know the truth.



An NPC involved in breaking level caps by giving you a fetch quest (50), fetch quest with NM fights (55), forcing lazy people to explore dangerous locations to show them what a real adventure is (60), to show people that adventuring (playing MMORPGs) isn't purely about battles and loot and forced you to seek out certain NPCs (65), then someone who mastered all jobs but Aht Urhgan and Wing of the Goddess jobs and you had to fight him one on on as your job and beat him before he mauls you...basically a test of skill as your class with support abilities locked off and only medicines and a prayer to support you.

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Actually, it was just a bunch of annoying speed bumps. designed to delay the initial rush of reaching the new level cap. Don't sugar coat it to be anything more than it really was.

Beating maat isn't a sign of skill with your jobs, everybody has to do it and everybody does eventually do it. You can't tell if someone is any good or not just because they did a quest to reach the max level.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Don't sugar coat it to be anything more than it really was.

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Subjective. Read the dialogs sometimes. To people like you:

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it was just a bunch of annoying speed bumps.

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I bet you also spammed through dialogs and cutscenes in both XI and XIV.

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Beating maat isn't a sign of skill with your jobs, everybody has to do it and everybody does eventually do it

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It was a sign of skill. If you sucked at your job you will not beat Maat. The only exceptions would be THF which is purely luck based and WHM due to SE forgetting about Repose being low level rather than high.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Subjective. Read the dialogs sometimes. To people like you:



I bet you also spammed through dialogs and cutscenes in both XI and XIV.

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Speed bumps are still speed bumps, even if the dialog is interesting (and yes, I read every word)

I bet you also jumped to a lot of false conclusions about everyone you met in both XI and XIV. In fact I watch every cutscene and read every dialog, much to the dismay of the people in my party who dont give a rats behind about the story that makes the games unique.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I bet you also jumped to a lot of false conclusions

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Learned it from you on the XI boards.

Also i would like to point out

you CAN NOT reintroduce something that was never implemented to begin with

therefore your thread title is full of tons of holes in itself

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Learned it from you on the XI boards.

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I don't know you, but I imagine if I did, I'd have learned what a troll you were in advance and not posted.


.... It in fact pisses me off that you can't watch the CS in this game when they happen (nobody lets you), and in one case, doing so can even get you killed (Moogle fight).

Take your sig's advice. You can't just make up shit about people, plug your ears, and pretend it's the truth.

Also, you can suck at any job and beat maat. It doesn't test you, and if you're really having a hard time you can just read a guide and beat it. Learning to win one fight is not learning your job.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

It in fact pisses me off that you can't watch the CS in this game when they happen (nobody lets you), and in one case, doing so can even get you killed (Moogle fight).

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Me too, and they say "Oh just watch it in your inn room later!" I don't WANT to watch it later. I want to watch it in context with the fight I'm about to enter!

I wish SE made all cutscenes non-skippable.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I'd have learned what a troll you were.

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Yet for someone that supposedly reads dialogs and watches every cutscene:

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Actually, it was just a bunch of annoying speed bumps. designed to delay the initial rush of reaching the new level cap. Don't sugar coat it to be anything more than it really was.

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You sure do deny exactly what I stated, which is exactly what Maat states in-game, not me "sugar coating it".

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Me too, and they say "Oh just watch it in your inn room later!" I don't WANT to watch it later. I want to watch it in context with the fight I'm about to enter!

I wish SE made all cutscenes non-skippable.

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Iirc didn't they add in the feature to skip a little bit after one of the first updates?

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Me too, and they say "Oh just watch it in your inn room later!" I don't WANT to watch it later. I want to watch it in context with the fight I'm about to enter!

I wish SE made all cutscenes non-skippable.

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no, I just wish everyone had to skip it for it to actually skip (e.g., people dont get put into the battle until everyone is done watching or have pushed the skip button)

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You sure do deny exactly what I stated, which is exactly what Maat states in-game, not me "sugar coating it".

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I do not in any way whatsoever deny what you said. I can read and enjoy the dialog and cutscenes, without pretending to myself that the gameplay purpose of the quest is nothing other than to slow you down from reaching the level cap. That's what ti does, that's what it's function is from a gameplay context. The dialog and cutscenes mask this very well of course. But I'm smart enough to know what lies underneath (but enjoy it all the same).

I do read every dialog and watch every cutscene. Maat quests are still speed bumps. That's their DESIGNED INTENDED FUNCTION. They're very fun and enjoyable speed bumps.

Any quest that is absolutely necessary for progression is technically a speed bump. This isn't -always- a bad thing, sometimes it can be an effective device. But I would rather maat keep dancing in front of the mansion in ru'lude and let FFXIV do it's own thing.