6 New wards Added to All housing districTs PER WORLD!

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Shiro is the busiest, but there are a tonne of empty houses, especially smalls outside of shiro. If you really want one, same advice for years, get the worst and upgrade in the next round or in January. Don't hold out for a LB41 then throw up your hands saying "no haus left, I give up"

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Totally agree best to get a house if not a prime location if getting one has been an issue. Transfer is always an option in the next round and at worst if you lose you won't be homeless when you attempt a transfer to a better more competitive location.

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Well, there is likely more need for FC wards so wouldn't surprise anyone.

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It wouldn't surprise some people but I imagine it would anger most people. I doubt there is a large demand for FC houses other than FCs trying to get larger plots and wouldn't be surprised if they did allocate that many wards that most of the smalls would be empty until enough single player FCs popped up or until SE opened the new wards to personals, kind of like last time.

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Based on how it was on the new EU worlds, we're still having a ton of houses available. Especially in the FC wards.

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FC wards does no good to me or a lot of people if you're not cheating the system with solo FCs. Personals is what people want.

On Seraph atm, easily the most crowded of the new US wards, Shirogane has 20 open plots, Lavender Beds 30 plots including 2 mediums and 1 large. Goblet still has about 60% of it's plots open, Mist around 35-40%, Empyreum about 15%. By comparison, Marilith and Maduin Goblet wards are about 80% empty atm. Still waiting for a certain faction to downsize it's domiciles (wonders if upcoming crafting tribal stuff might be contributing to that).

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

FC wards does no good to me or a lot of people if you're not cheating the system with solo FCs. Personals is what people want.

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Yeah well I'm looking at Hallicarnassus right now and housing is still plentiful. Sky isn't falling, you can still get a house even if it isn't the prime plot you tried for in round 1.

Hopefully they're all private.

https://i.imgur.com/SIIQxkn.png

Less than 4 hours after this plot went up. Cant wait to see how awful it gets

This is all so stupid. It's like watching a 200 car pile-up with no inclement weather. All the football players and the crowd dogpiling on top of the running back after he's hit the floor for like 10 years straight. That one video where the whole crowd throws chairs into the wrestling ring. So, so absurd you really would have no choice but to believe it's from some tone-deaf international company that doesn't take feedback from anywhere other than its home state.

For the love of the God, just make an custom-size instanced housing plot option.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

It is a shame, I moved to Dynamis to hopefully get a house but it looks like all the personals will be taken in the next lottery. When these new wards come out you get exactly 2 lotteries to get the small you want and then it's just all gone.
They either need a rule change to stop people using shell FCs and alts to farm up multiple houses, or just need to double the existing wards to make sure people can actually get one.

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What exactly is the relationship between people making shell FCs and personals being taken up?

edit: I just looked at Halicarnassus and as others have mentioned there are tons of houses left. Unless you're going to try to compete for a premium plot in this round, you should be finalizing a house purchase after the end of this lotto entry period.

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Originally Posted by Pablomaldito

What exactly is the relationship between people making shell FCs and personals being taken up?

edit: I just looked at Halicarnassus and as others have mentioned there are tons of houses left. Unless you're going to try to compete for a premium plot in this round, you should be finalizing a house purchase after the end of this lotto entry period.

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There isn't. Not anymore. The issue people have is they clutch pearls at the idea of people creating small FCs to get housing. That somehow this is morally bankrupt. I don't blame people for doing so, in many instances it's actually made it easier for people to acquire housing and they tend to share it with friends and family. Somehow people conflate this with violating the ToS and RMT, which is hilariously untrue on both fronts.

I don't care if someone gets a house via creating a small FC or lands themselves a personal plot. I celebrate them finally getting the thing they've been wanting.

Editting this to add: I find it clever and resourceful that people use 'shell' FCs to buy housing. Gives them access to the workshop, and they can even have all their alts in the FC create rooms. In a way personal housing can't.

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Originally Posted by Nepentha

There isn't. Not anymore. The issue people have is they clutch pearls at the idea of people creating small FCs to get housing. That somehow this is morally bankrupt. I don't blame people for doing so, in many instances it's actually made it easier for people to acquire housing and they tend to share it with friends and family. Somehow people conflate this with violating the ToS and RMT, which is hilariously untrue on both fronts.

I don't care if someone gets a house via creating a small FC or lands themselves a personal plot. I celebrate them finally getting the thing they've been wanting.

Editting this to add: I find it clever and resourceful that people use 'shell' FCs to buy housing. Gives them access to the workshop, and they can even have all their alts in the FC create rooms. In a way personal housing can't.

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I know quite a few house enthusiasts that make shell FC's to buy up houses on other servers like crazy, and worst part they can't even see for themself as for what they do is bad morale and just not ok in anyway.

Owner of 1 FC per Account Owner of 1 House per account, and then removal of grandfathering and shell FC's based over what is on accounts, and if some of these FC's is heavy inhabited they can just find another leader of in those FC's and still be member with SIC rights.

I know there is a few here that may say it is ok to have like 2 personal houses or the likes as well, which is still wrong.

There would be nothing bad in SE enforcing the TOS as it is, if it end with a couple of people quitting over it then they are not playing the game for Final Fantasy XIV anyway but for a housing simulator, the SIM's and various other apps/programs is better suited for that.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

There would be nothing bad in SE enforcing the TOS as it is, if it end with a couple of people quitting over it then they are not playing the game for Final Fantasy XIV anyway but for a housing simulator, the SIM's and various other apps/programs is better suited for that.

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To the best of our knowledge, SE is enforcing the ToS. There are only 2 housing situations addressed by the ToS: any use of RMT for housing sales, and purchasing a house with the intent to resell (whether for real money or gil).

That's it.

Ownership of multiple houses isn't against the ToS. It's not even against the limitations listing in the housing guide. Personal house restrictions are per world. FC house restrictions are based around the character who purchased the FC house for the FC. Once that character is no longer in that FC, the player is free to purchase another FC house with that character or any other characters they have on that world.

It's not enforcement that's the issue. It's the rules themselves. Multiple house ownership might go against the intent of the rules but they do not violate the letter of those rules and it is the letter of the rules that is subject to enforcement.

If you want change, SE needs to rewrite the rules.