Criterion dungeons - will there be 'preferred' jobs?

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Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre

Was wondering about Criterion (savage and normal) as to whether or not people think a 'preferred' job meta will form. It seems with limited raise and such that they may perform a bit differently than normal. Also, I saw somewhere either in the live letter or interview where Yoshi-P said pulling carefully and in the right order or a good order would be important - meaning perhaps jobs best suited for W2W pulls wouldn't be as stressed? Thoughts or ideas?

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Also remains the question whether or not Sleep worrks on trash and if it can be a relevant CC method for safer pulls.

Holy could be potentially a great asset as well. It is already a super strong mitigation method on regular dungeons, I would imagine it being even more valuable on a situation where the trash is even more dangerous. Again, assuming that it will work.

I'm hoping all the trash in Criterion dungeons are completely immune to CC. That in and of itself would be a good first step toward making sure the kid gloves are well and properly off.

Not rezmage thats for sure :(

Yeaaaahhh... Barring significant change to its kit (or at least its potencies), I think we can safely rule RDM out of being any use at all in Criterions. Pity, because the job itself is fun. It just sucks.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

Yeaaaahhh... Barring significant change to its kit (or at least its potencies), I think we can safely rule RDM out of being any use at all in Criterions. Pity, because the job itself is fun. It just sucks.

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If they turn this into content where you need no healers again Ill flip the table.

A table, not mine.

Of course there will. As evident by island sanctuaries, people will always min-max the **** out of any content.

However i would probably quess every job is gonna be able to clear it, especially with some higher item level, but some are clearly gonna better than others.

Depends entirely on how strict the DPS checks are since they've stated that enemies will get stronger as the instance drags on.

Hopefully they learned their lesson from pre-nerf 8S and didn't tune it too tightly.

I'm expecting the trash to be more along the lines of what was encountered in later PotD/HoH floors in that you have to actually respect their mechanics and set kill priorities in some cases if you don't want to wipe.

Expertly played DPS will always outperform moderately played DPS, regardless of the job. Especially if the jobs all play off each other's synergy, like in 8-man raid content. The DPS differential between jobs only matters if you have an expertly played MCH (for example) against an above average SAM (for example). If that's your group's problem, you'll probably be fine anyway.

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Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre

Criterion dungeons - will there be 'preferred' jobs?

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Will there be jobs that the forum/discord/reddit declare unplayable based on minute differences in DPS? Yes.

Will those jobs actually be playable? Also yes, but forum/discord/reddit will discourage players from playing or accepting non-meta jobs.

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Originally Posted by dspguy

Expertly played DPS will always outperform moderately played DPS, regardless of the job. Especially if the jobs all play off each other's synergy, like in 8-man raid content. The DPS differential between jobs only matters if you have an expertly played MCH (for example) against an above average SAM (for example). If that's your group's problem, you'll probably be fine anyway.

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Oh that's a good one. Rolling on the floor right now.

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