Why does a looter shooter have better housing than FF14?

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Because FFXIV is not really designed for housing at all, and if you want housing that much and it is a need, there is much better options with alot of other games, that goes for all who seem desperate for housing, if you don't like the FFXIV game as it is an housing is the only thing, then FFXIV is not the game for you or anyone at all.

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FF14 is very well designed for housing. Look at all the houses in the game. Look at all the instanced dungeons, zones, and content. Look at the housing items that exist and are constantly being added. The dev kit for world design in this game is probably great.

The problem is they do not want to give that kind of power to players. Or even a small place in the world to players. There is no technical limitations. That is a blatant lie. They do not want to spend the time, and it does not fit Yoshi's 'VISION' for how they want housing to be.

The developers are the problem, not he game engine.

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

FF14 is very well designed for housing. Look at all the houses in the game. Look at all the instanced dungeons, zones, and content. Look at the housing items that exist and are constantly being added. The dev kit for world design in this game is probably great.

The problem is they do not want to give that kind of power to players. Or even a small place in the world to players. There is no technical limitations. That is a blatant lie. They do not want to spend the time, and it does not fit Yoshi's 'VISION' for how they want housing to be.

The developers are the problem, not he game engine.

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Not really MMO's from around 2003 that had housing much better implented and not even instance based the way people apparently crave for.

So nope, Housing for FFXIV is and always has been not a really well working feature at all, and most likely never will be, I hear new people in MMO's or only having played a few of the mainstream ones talking all about these super instanced solution as well, which is also dekadent compared to for an instance a game like Star Wars Galaxies, that had housing at a whole other level than what any MMO has ever provided.

These modern games is not designed for it, and their databases is to reduced to actual handle big scale housing likewise resources is not and never will be optimized for any kind of fully advanced housing.

Think of the ability of being able to place things anywhere in the room of the house and rotate that item in any angle as well to a degree you could place all the furniture topside down in your house? or hang up paintings not being level?

Nope SE's FFXIV system is not designed to handle it well at all and is more a nuisance, especually if you want do something different and have to glitch furniture and the likes instead of giving choices of actually being able to handle a fully 3D room and not be able to place as you like, as there is no leveling locks and the likes so can elevate any direction want to without having to use walls and stagepanels to glitch up or down.

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Originally Posted by Silverbane

This means that it is very unlikely that Islands will screw up progression or screw up the game economy. And don't underestimate how important not screwing up the game economy is.

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Wait what?

The economy has been thoroughly and royally screwed up for years now.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

The comments around say removing belts to give more rings is related to the fact the game design is those things are carried with you and sent to everyone else in view everytime you teleport into Limsa while you get everyone elses. That's part of the descision to model and render unique rings, necklaces and wrists, while other games use a generic model.

When it comes to housing, the data sent is actually quite low, and it's generally NOT multicast either.

I don't buy the technical limitation much any more, Island Sanctuary blows it from the water. The reason is simply that Yoshida doesn't want it.

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This is the sad reality. For a long time I theorised it was a engine or 1.0 backend code that restricted it but last few years I think it just a design decision and they will keep adding wards or stop adding and and be content people can get apartments, assuming it’s scalable as they claimed it to be years ago.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

The comments around say removing belts to give more rings is related to the fact the game design is those things are carried with you and sent to everyone else in view everytime you teleport into Limsa while you get everyone elses. That's part of the descision to model and render unique rings, necklaces and wrists, while other games use a generic model.

When it comes to housing, the data sent is actually quite low, and it's generally NOT multicast either.

I don't buy the technical limitation much any more, Island Sanctuary blows it from the water. The reason is simply that Yoshida doesn't want it.

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This - instanced housing for everyone doesn't fit yoshida's neighborhood "vision"