Why does a looter shooter have better housing than FF14?

[Necrotica]

Been messing around in Warframe's dojo system which is guild housing for all intents and purposes.

The amount of freedom and creativity allowed is astounding. You can build and add on rooms in a layout you control. Free float and clip decorations through walls to make them look like completely different objects. Change the colors of walls, lighting, ambient glow and just make it look how you want. They have a large variety of room designs to choose from ranging come blank slate rooms to elaborate themed ones like underwater caves and Japanese gardens.

Game was released in 2013. Same as ARR. And it is not an MMO. It is a lobby based looter shooter.

FF14 needs to find some new developers who have a passion for what they are doing. This is supposedly one of the most community driven and social MMOs out there. But that does not seem to be what the devs want for this game.

[Curisu]

Because the other game was created with full player housing in mind and FFxiv not.

It is not easy to fix a problem that ia caused by the foundation.

[Oizen]

Why does Club Penguin have a better housing system than FFXIV?

[Siniztor]

Because the other game was created with full player housing in mind and FFxiv not.

It is not easy to fix a problem that ia caused by the foundation.

You right its not a east fix to give everyone Player instanced housing...Aka a door to zone into 3 different types of housing lay outs we can deco and HAVE TENATS

but its super easy to give every player a island they can grow crops and let multi minion's run free on, plus a whole new system thats self contained for what ya do with said items grown..

Makes sense in this day and age


I mean silly us for thinking SE could come up with a solution to add this option that has flooded this forum for 5 years +... A system a long list of even free game sall ready have,,,

Can you honestly tell me.. that making a instanced Island where ya can grow and let multi minions out invite friends over has a built in system of some kind to trade or sell your items to only use what ever ya get in there.... was cheaper and easier then just doing a door with 3 options for housing sizes from scratch

You gonna be able to not only have like barns but multi things moving much more to load and keep track of then say fish swimming in a tank..thats pretty much all that moves in housing other then the odd ball housing items like the gold cause machines

[Rhea_]

Why does Sims have better player housing than FFXIV?

[Theox]

Why does real life have better housing than ffxiv?

[Yshtola_Cat]

Why given life we are meant to die helpless in our cries?

[Azuri]

You right its not a east fix to give everyone Player instanced housing...Aka a door to zone into 3 different types of housing lay outs we can deco and HAVE TENATS

but its super easy to give every player a island they can grow crops and let multi minion's run free on, plus a whole new system thats self contained for what ya do with said items grown..

Makes sense in this day and age


I mean silly us for thinking SE could come up with a solution to add this option that has flooded this forum for 5 years +... A system a long list of even free game sall ready have,,,

Can you honestly tell me.. that making a instanced Island where ya can grow and let multi minions out invite friends over has a built in system of some kind to trade or sell your items to only use what ever ya get in there.... was cheaper and easier then just doing a door with 3 options for housing sizes from scratch

You gonna be able to not only have like barns but multi things moving much more to load and keep track of then say fish swimming in a tank..thats pretty much all that moves in housing other then the odd ball housing items like the gold cause machines

Sure thing. You can probably have your instanced house in a few patches. Provided it will be in the vein of Island Sanctuaries and you are happy with "housing" consisting of a few pre-set rooms you can place and choose the colours of SE-placed furniture. Maybe a few "hooks" here and there for some minor personalization.

Oh? You want 800 freely placeable items? This is where we obviously run into some issues.

[Solarra]

Sure thing. You can probably have your instanced house in a few patches. Provided it will be in the vein of Island Sanctuaries and you are happy with "housing" consisting of a few pre-set rooms you can place and choose the colours of SE-placed furniture. Maybe a few "hooks" here and there for some minor personalization.

Oh? You want 800 freely placeable items? This is where we obviously run into some issues.

Is it obvious?
I have no idea what resources Square had available but since Island Sanctuary is a completely new system requiring new assets and since it is not restricted like housing but is available to every character, then it's pretty obvious they've sunk an awful lot of resources into it.
Who is to say they couldn't have given players decent instanced housing instead? Something they've been asking for since HW.

Unless you're on the development team ofc, in which case you would know, but somehow I doubt that's the case.
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[Azuri]

Is it obvious?
I have no idea what resources Square had available but since Island Sanctuary is a completely new system requiring new assets and since it is not restricted like housing but is available to every character, then it's pretty obvious they've sunk an awful lot of resources into it.
Who is to say they couldn't have given players decent instanced housing instead? Something they've been asking for since HW.

Unless you're on the development team ofc, in which case you would know, but somehow I doubt that's the case.
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Sorry, but yes, it is. You just need to think for just a moment and look at things Square very obviously struggles with.

They don't have a problem with making assets. They generally don't have a problem with making instances. What do they have a problem with? Inventory. Glamour dresser and plates. Armoire. Portraits. Furniture slots. There is one common thing here - data. And before someone shows up and starts screaming how they can fit instanced houses for entire server on their 2 TB SSD - storing a lot of data is easy. Storing a lot of data and actively manipulating it back and forth between thousands of clients and the server is not.

I don't know why. There is something about their backend that makes data package size very restricting. Yoshida mentioned as much on multiple occasions. And no one in their right mind will argue that simple hook system is much less data intensive than free placement.