SE: Open up Regional Travel for OCE PLEASE !

I even remember US players being so mad they were not let in groups they started shouting ww2 refrences in shout, and other places. ahhhh the ARR memories :p

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Big doubt, since iirc the Japanese players couldn't stand English speakers on their DC in the first place. I'd bet money that a big motivating force behind Materia was to just get English speakers out of Japanese datacenters so they wouldn't have to see English in /say chat. Or, in the more diplomatic corporate phrasing, "there are different playing styles in each region." :)))
Either way, OCE really got done dirty.

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"When in Japan, do as the Japanese do" works just as well as it did in Rome.

Most Japanese people are perfectly happy to have non-Japanese among them, as long as you don't rock the boat.

Its just communication, diff languages. It was only at the point of the Turns and the three Ex's. English only speaking players treated them the same. To say "Japanese players couldn't stand English speakers on their DC" just shows ignorance and not even trying. You didnt see the JP go out and make fun of things like WW2 stuff if they got booted from the group after asked a question they couldnt understand. if you could read and understand the language they let ya in even if you didnt have the underscore under the J.

Tonberry was fun if you were multi lingual

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Let them debug it locally before they bring in distance to the equation.

Imagine getting caught in some kind of international "zero bug" and your character gets lost in limbo for a month.

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Thats the second time we agree on something.

Who are you and what have you done with Shibi? ;);)

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Originally Posted by Curisu

Ohh, does NA now also used the positions macro for PF savage?

But I guess the biggest problem would be for JP.
I've heard that they can use the DF for savage raids and trails and they probably also do hunt's, special fates, relic area's, etc. Different then us western player's.

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I recently moved back to JP servers due to OCE's low population making the game basically unplayable for me during the day.
DF is used for basically everything except ultimates.

The average skill level in JP is much higher than other regions so its viable to do it like this.

But yeah, the real reason OCE will never get cross region is because the JP playerbase does not want foreigners playing on their servers and disrupting the way things are done.

I do agree with Shibi for once, let them debug it first but open it as soon as it is possibly available, OCE will remain in a bad position as long as they remain seperated from the rest of the world. World of Warcraft merged NA and OCE queues together to solve this issue.

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Originally Posted by Nuki

sadly no
They will argue about positions for half an hour and disband after the first wipe because someone was on the wrong spot.

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Best part about NA. You get that red DPS that demands they get SE position or get cranky. It's like letting everyone know you barely know a mechanic, instead of instilling full confidence. They just don't get it.

Certainly good to ensure logical data center travel does not have a bug or two they hadn't caught yet. No one wants the worst case scenario where your toon gets stuck in EU and can't travel back where you can't make it to raid night.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Thats the second time we agree on something.

Who are you and what have you done with Shibi? ;);)

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Yea First time i agreed with shib(t)i let them debug then we'll see.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

I recently moved back to JP servers due to OCE's low population making the game basically unplayable for me during the day.
DF is used for basically everything except ultimates.

I do agree with Shibi for once, let them debug it first OCE will remain in a bad position as long as they remain seperated from the rest of the world. World of Warcraft merged NA and OCE queues together to solve this issue.

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Exactly we need to consolidate the OCE servers as much as possible and try bring in more players from SEA.

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Originally Posted by Aragon

Yea First time i agreed with shib(t)i let them debug then we'll see.



Exactly we need to consolidate the OCE servers as much as possible and try bring in more players from SEA.

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Their mistake was thinking the English community on JP were Australian/NZ.
Obviously they don't have data for SEA since people cant legitimately buy the game in that region, but they make up a good 2/3rds of the English population.

Servers in SEA would have benefitted everyone, and consolidated the entire English community in one place on better ping than JP (Around 70 for most people).

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

Servers in SEA would have benefitted everyone, and consolidated the entire English community in one place on better ping than JP (Around 70 for most people).

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If that was the initial case of having the DC's in SEA that would of been a great compromise, but now that we already have JP.. It is going to take OCE time to grow just like the others, and 10 years is a long time to wait for OCE and add to the fact the population numbers will never compare.. What we can do though is consolidate the number of worlds and we can incentive existing English speaking players to join and your suggestion that wow does. This will create a sense of community and population density enough to justify a separate mmo DC.

I'm entering day 5 of trying to get an Aglaia queue. My fc is telling me that 4 hours is a usual wait time and I'm better to start a PF and ask people to join it.

I'm just...depressed. It's depressing.