Would you want account progression?

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

I've done both and I'd honestly be fine with that. I got my money's worth already for purchased items and I don't regret time I spent for things on my alts. If they suddenly said I only have to get mounts for instance once and they'd be available when I swap characters, I'd be very happy to access any that I haven't already re-acquired and won't feel bad about any I did.

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Same here, but considering what I know about game fanbases and their "investments" I'm reasonably sure there'd be a sizeable pushback against just "oh well it's gone" sort of solution.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Same here, but considering what I know about game fanbases and their "investments" I'm reasonably sure there'd be a sizeable pushback against just "oh well it's gone" sort of solution.

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Almost certainly. The benefits far outweigh those complaints, though.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Same here, but considering what I know about game fanbases and their "investments" I'm reasonably sure there'd be a sizeable pushback against just "oh well it's gone" sort of solution.

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If they wanted to they could refund it as Crysta.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

If they wanted to they could refund it as Crysta.

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That would probably work well to at least stem complaints about money spent, and one COULD say that time spent playing the game is supposed to be enjoyed, not "invested".... I would still expect to see complaints though as well.

Would you, personally be OK with all mounts then being the price for "account wide" as well?

I also remember the devs mentioning account wide grants had a limit as far as capacity.. so that could be another reason they don't just swap to everything being account wide.


All in all, like I said I'd love it since my alts are mostly bare of all the long investments my main has... I just think it's probably got a lot of inherent problems preventing it.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

That would probably work well to at least stem complaints about money spent, and one COULD say that time spent playing the game is supposed to be enjoyed, not "invested".... I would still expect to see complaints though as well.

Would you, personally be OK with all mounts then being the price for "account wide" as well?

I also remember the devs mentioning account wide grants had a limit as far as capacity.. so that could be another reason they don't just swap to everything being account wide.


All in all, like I said I'd love it since my alts are mostly bare of all the long investments my main has... I just think it's probably got a lot of inherent problems preventing it.

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Yeah, like I said in my original post there are engine problems preventing account wide everything.

This is all wishful thinking, though it would be nice to see if they did an engine overhaul (which I hope they do, not just because of this. Many of the game's long standing issues are due to the engine)

I would love account-wide progression. I know that you can do everything on one character but that's not the point. It would be nice to have choice. We can make alts but the game is seriously unfriendly to players who do. I don't think account-wide mogstation items will happen but it would be nice to at least be able to trade items between my alts or send post to them.
And whatever happened to letting alts share houses?

I am not sure qhere i should position myself here... i have 8 chars just on Louisoix... 4 are through reborn, 1 of them through complete MSQ and the second busy with lvl70 MSQ content... and 4 on the way through reborn...

i bought different things, account and characterstuff... i am type of a roleplayer, so not every gear i bought for one char i wish to have on another char....

if all is available accountwide, SE will make it more expensive, so players with just 1 char are "fucked up".

A solution i could see is simple to give the player the choice to buy for one character for cheap price or to buy accountwide for more money...
THat would respect the ones with just 1 char or who wanna buy this or that just for one character, but the other players too who wish to buy an item for the whole account.


about the ingameachivments... at the end its the character who got the achivment, not the account.... If you go so far to open achivments from one character i could ask too, why not unlock every single part of the game accountwide? You played 1 char through the MSQ, you make an alternate, so this alternate have too... i mean: where to draw the line what shall be remain for the character, what shall open up for the whole account?


One thing i agree to is sending post to may alternates. There is no reason not to open up for that, because i can already "trade" things between my characters, its just little bit work...
To use house/appartment accountwide would be a nice thing too.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

In this case though adding account progression would mean fixing things like how inventory is managed in this game which is a nightmare. I think addressing that would be lovely for everyone.

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You don't honestly need account progression for that. Just, y'know, make a shared storage area for all your characters on a world.

It's genuinely stupid that if I want to pass something from my main (omnicrafter) character to my (not-a-crafter) alt who I also raid on -- like, say, crafted gear or pots -- I have to hand it off to a friend and have them mail it to my own alt. Or else clear out space in the FC chest and stuff things in there temporarily, log in as the alt, and take it back out.

For minions and mounts and titles, I don't care that much that I get to share them across characters. (Though I do think any minion, mount, or glamour that I bought off the Mog Station with actual real-world money should be account wide, yes. I also think it should be retrievable from the Calamity Salvager if you happen to lose it, rather than forcing you to buy it again. Anyway.)

But in terms of "things shared automatically on the account", just give me some sort of (very limited) shared storage -- or let me access the retainers for one character on the other, if they reside on the same world -- and treat my alt on the same world as being implicitly a tenant on my house. We can invite people to have decorating rights and gardening rights and so on for our houses. We cannot do this for our own alts. And SQEX themselves (rightly) limit housing to one house per account per world, so it's not like they don't know I have at most one house, and no others. So just treat the house as account-wide, please.

That alone would be enough to make me happy.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

Right now this is about the only MMORPG out there with no account progression. That is any mount, title, minion or achievement you make is bound to your character.

Personally I would love to see this changed, though I understand there are engine limitations preventing it right now... Although I really wish everything bought on Mogstation short of dyes, marriages, fantasias and skips were account bound.

On the flip side some people like not having mounts or achievements on alts and genuinely enjoy the feeling of starting fresh. I can kinda get that too.

(I also know this game doesn't encourage alts, everything is doable on one character. But you can have alts and pay a higher monthly fee for them, so it's a valid question.)

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Sometimes I want to play another race without having to fork out £5 for fantasia, but the work to have a character at the end game to play with friends is too high and would take me at least 3-5 weeks to get passed story without a skip.

The game is very good at placing arbitrary walls in front of you to squeeze more money. This causes more burnout in my mind, and not going to play another game is not an excuse for poor design by game developers.

This is absolutely something I would want in the future.