Regarding Elite Mark HP

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Originally Posted by Louvain

No, no this would be a *terrible* idea. Many spawners can barely keep up with what we have as is. With all the instances, there is about 50+ possible spawns a cycle on one world. Decreasing timers at this point would only exhaust them. most spawns outside of ARR are not easily spawned by accident either. In fact, one of the new ones from EW requires TEN people sitting on a specific spot with a specific minion out. Gathering all those people over and over again is very tedious and definitely not something that *just* happens randomly

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If they were available almost every 20/30 mins or so why would there need to be people tracking them when they are freely spawning way more often , and not being taken instantly by those that dont wait for trains because they are currently on far longer re spawn and easy to kill causing the issue you made a post about?

Have I missed something?

I dont follow hunt trains or go for big ow bosses when im online, so pardon my ignorance.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

It's gotten to a point where it's almost detrimental to be trying to actively spawn hunts because they're liable to be instantly detected by someone using a third party app and swarmed in less then a minute, whereas if you're just camping out by the aetheryte you can just follow the crowd to ensure you don't miss out.

Even the Endwalker S ranks are getting deleted from existence in the span of around two minutes after a pull due to how insanely high the player counts are right now.

There needs to be a change, and I think giving the S ranks a window of time where they cannot be interacted with after spawning would be perfectly reasonable; at very least enough time for anyone who is actually present in the zone to group up at the spawn. For the older hunts adding some kind of damage-mitigation buff that caps damage at a level appropriate to their level range would also be good so that on-level players have a fair chance of participating.

Virtually everyone who parrots that the system is okay in its current state doesn't actively involve themselves with spawning/locating hunts to know how absurdly frustrating it is grind out a S rank's spawn condition then not get full credit for it if not miss out completely because a horde of app-using "hunters" camping by an aetheryte flooded in and erased the thing from existence.

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I think it's time for SE to revamp hunts and just make them in a way that each full party or alliance need to summon them and only that group can attack and get credit. Put different quests that reset as often at current respawns or increase rewards and make them a weekly thing.

This eternal drama is not good for the game when it should something simple: gather your pals whenever you feel like it and go hunting.

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Originally Posted by Izar_Chillen

If they were available almost every 20/30 mins or so why would there need to be people tracking them when they are freely spawning way more often , and not being taken instantly by those that dont wait for trains because they are currently on far longer re spawn and easy to kill causing the issue you made a post about?

Have I missed something?

I dont follow hunt trains or go for big ow bosses when im online, so pardon my ignorance.

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Many s ranks require specific efforts to spawn them - and sometimes some of those efforts requires two seconds, while others require 30 mintues to an hour. Some examples;

Nunyunuwi spawn condition is to do all fates in southern thanalan for an entire hour without ANY failing
Ruminator spawn condition is to kill 100 of three different types of mobs (wanderers, weepers, thinkers)
Senmurv spawn condition is completing a specific fate 5 times successfully in a row, an effort that usually takes hours because it is tied to the super 30 minute fate in the zone

These conditions can be met, eventually, by chance, but in that case you wouldn't see some of these for weeks. Decreasing the spawn timer would mean that those who do enjoy dedicated spawning would have ot be doing these *every day* and that's exhausting. neither does it fix the issue of being able to reach them in the first place once they appear.

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Originally Posted by Louvain

Many s ranks require specific efforts to spawn them - and sometimes some of those efforts requires two seconds, while others require 30 mintues to an hour. Some examples;

Nunyunuwi spawn condition is to do all fates in southern thanalan for an entire hour without ANY failing
Ruminator spawn condition is to kill 100 of three different types of mobs (wanderers, weepers, thinkers)
Senmurv spawn condition is completing a specific fate 5 times successfully in a row, an effort that usually takes hours because it is tied to the super 30 minute fate in the zone

These conditions can be met, eventually, by chance, but in that case you wouldn't see some of these for weeks. Decreasing the spawn timer would mean that those who do enjoy dedicated spawning would have ot be doing these *every day* and that's exhausting. neither does it fix the issue of being able to reach them in the first place once they appear.

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Ahh OK I was not aware there was some prep work


Perhaps they could add the Bozja feature the the "special circumstances OW Fate bosses" , as in you joined in the prep stuff so your in a hidden party/queue then when the boss spawns you get that encounter alert menu like in Bozja ,and you port into a locked off area for that map

I wonder if a solution will be to not just tune them up in HP (preferably dynamically, like crowd noises), but also Fate-like level-sync the players to the zones level.

Their HP should be equivalent to the amount of players hitting them. If they die in less then a minute push it up to 5. If you can't make it in 5 mins you lose the kill. To me personally open world events like this are terrible because all it does is create a selfish atmosphere. They are a hold over from 11 that needed to die the second it was thought up. You have more then enough things to do in game without having to worry about if you're going to make a mark in time. It's the worst feeling in the world honestly. As such I would be ok with it going away.

whats a bit weird to me are the achievements. hunts are designed for less people but can you imagine what that would mean for the achievements? how would you get 1000 s-ranks without calls? how would you get them if there are only the few people killing them for how many the hunts are designed? and now dont say grind.... it would take years upon years if you dont have access to a system like the one sone players built. maybe you wouldnt even see a s rank in months

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Originally Posted by Dewslam

Hunts aren't supposed to sit around waiting for literally every person on the world to come over and bop them, then for every other person from every other world to show up and smack them too.

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Ok sure. But others can take em from you, others can no life farm em 24/7, so either they are reset imidiatly after kill and someone who already killed em cant get the reward again (like having a daily/weekly S hunt limit) or ppl could at least be nice and wait some min.

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Originally Posted by Asari5

whats a bit weird to me are the achievements. hunts are designed for less people but can you imagine what that would mean for the achievements? how would you get 1000 s-ranks without calls? how would you get them if there are only the few people killing them for how many the hunts are designed? and now dont say grind.... it would take years upon years if you dont have access to a system like the one sone players built. maybe you wouldnt even see a s rank in months

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Excatly that... like 1000 s hunts, on random hidden triggers and timmers you can see or even know? lol

It also falls apart that this arbitrary system is propped up by selfless individuals who set up trains and give call outs. Imagine making a system that relies on the players to moderate it? It's a damn joke.

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Originally Posted by Asari5

and now dont say grind.... it would take years upon years if you dont have access to a system like the one sone players built. maybe you wouldnt even see a s rank in months

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It took me 3 years to get the kills needed for my tiger. Its a long term goal, not a 1 patch goal lol