Veteran opinions on Scholar?

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Snip on SCH power fantasy/capstones

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I think this is a matter of perspective to be honest. I've always preferred the fact that sch felt alot more subtle then other classes, if anything is a moment of awesome for a sch, it's doing a large Adlo deploy and laughing at the damage that didn't go out. Or, if you want to be triggered by the fact I just mentioned using a gcd heal, the feeling that I always have a trick to pull out of my sleeves to quickly and efficiently react to out-going damage with my assorted tools.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

snip on Dissipation

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Hmmm...it's almost like...now hear me out, you can spend all your faerie skills...THEN you can eat her. It's an emergency refill when things are dire at worst, and a tool that rewards planning at it's best. As for the healing +% part? Meh. It would be better if it could effect the actions as well but I see it purely as a reload skill and I find it very effective when thought of like that. Besides, what if you don't need that 3k potency worth of embrace? Then chuck her away and ED for some extra damage. I know for sure you'll disagree but I believe Dissapation was fixed the moment they made it resummon your faerie.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

snip on Fey Union

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So? If anything the fact that SCH is getting the Broil cast time reduction means that Fey Union can be toggled on and off freely at no cost to you the SCH. Alot of the issue i found with Fey Union was the lack of accessability it had due to how weave spaces work. It will even offset the fact that you can freely ED, so if you don't need to heal right that moment, you ED the stacks and pop Union later when you need to heal. Heck if you're so worried about over capping you can literally tap it once to heal a bit of auto attack damage then immediately toggle it off.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Snip on Seraph

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So are pets in general, why do you think we haven't gotten anymore and the faerie is now essentially a totem you place down that you cast cooldowns off of?

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

But remember, the Devs couldn't find any way to improve Scholar. Despite literal hundreds of pages of feedback.

Some people say Scholars were absolutely overpowered for ARR and HW (They simply had a very well designed kit IMHO), but that was 6 years ago and they shouldn't be still punished for something the developers put into place.

A bigger problem? The fact that SE wants to have Barrier (shield) healers / and Pure (regen) healers but won't commit to either.

SCH's have 3 Regens (if you count the fairy) and the Pure healers have substantial shielding capability (WHM gets 2 free charges of Benison in EW).

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You know, a thought about that. I don't think the devs ever wanted SCH to be the way it was in ARR and HW. SCH was literally piggy backing off of a different job for those years and every tool it had for it's job besides Physick and Ressurection where all things they had to shove in post 30 for the quests. If anything, all the years of reworks towards SCH (and even SMN to a lesser extent) seems to scream that the developers massively regret designing the two classes the way they did. SCH was good because it was sharing a toolkit with a DPS class in game where healers are expected to be aggressive instead of being designed from the ground up like CNJ and AST where to be a healer. As much as it hurt going into SHB, that was the devs putting their foot down on that matter once and for all.

The Pure/Barrier thing was never about the OGCD kit, but rather the GCD kit.

Pure healers have unlimited access to their regens via GCDs and stronger GCD raw heals (Cure/Benefic II) and limited (as in cooldowns, not OGCD) access to shields.

Barrier healers have unlimited access to their shielding via GCDs and have to rely on their OGCD/cooldowns to cover more upfront burst heals/regens.

They can... sprint

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Aetherflow is the main mechanic of scholar and I use it all of the time. It's only considered fluff by people who are not using scholar properly. Making this change would make it impossible to use Lustrate 3-6 times in a row which is sometimes useful in big pulls even after you have stacked up all the regens. Aetherflow has a nice "flow" to it as well.

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All it would require, is to rework Dissipation into giving Stacks instead of Aetherflow. Also, most of the time, you dont even need Aetherflow Skills in Dungeons anyway, only a bad SCH uses Aetherflow stacks in Dungeons for Healing purposes.

Using Adlo ocassionally and Healing everything with the Fairy is in my Book, the most optimal Gameplay SCH currently has. If Tank gets below half HP, just aetherpact him and attack enemies with enerydrain for a longer duration.

Also, the lone fact that SCH has garbage like lustrate and indomitability and still relies heavily on it in difficult content, only shows that Squeenix cant even execute their own desire to create the concept called Barrier Healers.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

All it would require, is to rework Dissipation into giving Stacks instead of Aetherflow. Also, most of the time, you dont even need Aetherflow Skills in Dungeons anyway, only a bad SCH uses Aetherflow stacks in Dungeons for Healing purposes.

Using Adlo ocassionally and Healing everything with the Fairy is in my Book, the most optimal Gameplay SCH currently has. If Tank gets below half HP, just aetherpact him and attack enemies with enerydrain for a longer duration.

Also, the lone fact that SCH has garbage like lustrate and indomitability and still relies heavily on it in difficult content, only shows that Squeenix cant even execute their own desire to create the concept called Barrier Healers.

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I see the problem here, TBH. Barriers, if truly beefed up, can invalidate a lot of raid-wide mechanics just because people take less damage (or more accurately soak it out). If played masterfully a pure healing co-healer would be out of work. I've seen it as a Discipline Priest in WoW. It's hard to find that ground between "your shield is so frail that there'd be little difference in its absence" and "your shield is so big you've managed to soak half of the harmful raid wide that's going out".

If SqEx wants to differentiate between pure and barrier so much as to completely split them and make separate categories in higher-end, they shouldn't hesitate from giving the shield more power IMO. What's the use of creating an entire category which is deliberately held back? Why not just play duo-AST?

My biggest gripe with SCH and healers in general (Ast less so), is how much their design ends up forcing them into their nuke spam.

As much as I like having shorter cast times for ther nukes that allow for weaving, before you had to create weaving space by using something different to Broil or Glare.

Now you won't have to stop spamming your nuke.

Considering how much time we can spend not using GCD heals, it baffles my mind that we don't have a better kit to fill said GCDs beyond one nuke and one DoT.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

All it would require, is to rework Dissipation into giving Stacks instead of Aetherflow. Also, most of the time, you dont even need Aetherflow Skills in Dungeons anyway, only a bad SCH uses Aetherflow stacks in Dungeons for Healing purposes.

Using Adlo ocassionally and Healing everything with the Fairy is in my Book, the most optimal Gameplay SCH currently has. If Tank gets below half HP, just aetherpact him and attack enemies with enerydrain for a longer duration.

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Energy drain is pretty useless on 50 enemies though and better used on Sacred Soil, Excogitation, unless your MP is really that low. The decision to use it on healing or energy drain is also a choice that people like and that making the heals a charge would remove.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Energy drain is pretty useless on 50 enemies though and better used on Sacred Soil, Excogitation, unless your MP is really that low. The decision to use it on healing or energy drain is also a choice that people like and that making the heals a charge would remove.

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The issue is, most content doesnt require you to heal that much, so youre most of the time far better off "wasting" those aetherflow stacks on that useless energy drain because 50 potency on dmg is better than dealing no dmg, and the best damage mitigation in the game, is by killing the enemy faster that does the damage.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

The issue is, most content doesnt require you to heal that much, so youre most of the time far better off "wasting" those aetherflow stacks on that useless energy drain because 50 potency on dmg is better than dealing no dmg, and the best damage mitigation in the game, is by killing the enemy faster that does the damage.

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Most content NOW doesn't require you to heal that much but wait until day one when you're in leveling dungeons and enemies are chucking tanks for 1/4 of their HP bar every second or so.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Most content NOW doesn't require you to heal that much but wait until day one when you're in leveling dungeons and enemies are chucking tanks for 1/4 of their HP bar every second or so.

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That's about as likely as SE giving healers anything even slightly resembling a dps rotation.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Most content NOW doesn't require you to heal that much but wait until day one when you're in leveling dungeons and enemies are chucking tanks for 1/4 of their HP bar every second or so.

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i am waiting for this since Stormblood and i doubt it will happen anytime soon, as long as we have People at Squeenix pretending that "there isnt much that can be done about Jobs". Simple Quality of Life changes and hotfixes arent something you should be giving out only during Expansion releases.

And mark my words, the incoming PVP Mode that is about to be announced in a few days, isnt going to make PVP any better because theyre still going to stick to old habits. And the same will be for any other content that isnt Endgame Raiding.