The great streamer Asmongold is joining FFXIV

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Originally Posted by Losara

I would love to think were more mature than that.

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Ahahaha, tell another one!

How bored do you have to be to log on to a bunch of your other recently-created alt accounts to post in the same thread?

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Originally Posted by Cidel

How bored do you have to be to log on to a bunch of your other recently-created alt accounts to post in the same thread?

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You can almost respect the dedication to creating their own echo chamber.

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

You can almost respect the dedication to creating their own echo chamber.

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To even pull this off you need separate logins...PLUS you need to actually login to the game once every 14 days. That is dedication.

As a Returner from 1.0 I'm excited to see what happens next.

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

Answering back in good faith, yes and no. Same as when people want more stuff from XI, it could learn from its siblings/competitors. But not wholesale copy.

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In good faith? What am I seen as some troll? :eek:

From the little I've played of WoW, the PvP was much better, BG's were entertaining enough on their own, and that's all I did on the majority of characters. With a little bit of open world PvP - but I don't think WoW does that anymore. In terms of PvE, this game caters far too much to the casual audience in my opinion, and it could use some different viewpoints. Like how 4 man 'savage' content might be seen as an impossibility right now. Frankly, even the new player experience here sucks, and could learn some things from WoW. At least a free boost or something! Plus when I played in Legion, if I recall my boosted character had a sort of training experience when I created it.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

In good faith? What am I seen as some troll? :eek:

From the little I've played of WoW, the PvP was much better, BG's were entertaining enough on their own, and that's all I did on the majority of characters. With a little bit of open world PvP - but I don't think WoW does that anymore. In terms of PvE, this game caters far too much to the casual audience in my opinion, and it could use some different viewpoints. Like how 4 man 'savage' content might be seen as an impossibility right now. Frankly, even the new player experience here sucks, and could learn some things from WoW. At least a free boost or something!

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Never could get into WoW when I played it, the leveling experience was alright though cause Number Go Up makes my brain happy. Yeah we could use harder 4-man content for sure and I didn't quite like the idea of alliance raids being tuned to where it's almost expected that a few vets have to/can carry clusters of people who are checked out. Mainly my comment to OP was that they've repeatedly stated they want this game TO BE WoW which eh no thanks. We could take some things from them for sure to improve engagement.

We live a community that actively shuns new players, just for coming from a different game. Shameful display.

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

We live a community that actively shuns new players, just for coming from a different game. Shameful display.

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Agree. We need to be more welcoming a community. The only real way to grow the game is to accept players from other games/communities.

They'll of course have their own opinions which we shouldn't dismiss just because they were from another game.

I hope they are ready to hire an additional army of moderators.

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Originally Posted by Losara

Agree. We need to be more welcoming a community. The only real way to grow the game is to accept players from other games/communities.

They'll of course have their own opinions which we shouldn't dismiss just because they were from another game.

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I'm not welcoming to people who are toxic, bigoted, and sexist. The game might initially grow but would be set on a path to become just like every other toxic gaming community where many don't feel welcome and end up leaving.

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

We live a community that actively shuns new players, just for coming from a different game. Shameful display.

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It's not shunning "just for coming from a different game," but for coming from a game that has an incredibly toxic community. Not everyone that plays WoW is toxic of course and I'm all for people joining FFXIV, as long as SquareEnix is still able to enforce their rules on a larger playerbase.