Chill with the fates in Zadnor, I can't even reach them before it dies

What myself and a few others have determined is that teleporting between zones isn't really viable with how big each zone is and how spread out the teleport locations are.

Pick a zone, and stick there for a while.

Almost everybody can make it on time. The onyl times I ever can't make it on time are the superfast fates, like the brachiosaurus and the red mage.
If you wanna do all three areas at once you're just being greedy.
I don't get why people should waste time and wait for someone who's doing a fate in another area, before doing the one of the area they're focusing on. It's not Eureka. In Eureka fates have to be specifically spawned and they're rare and spread out. In Bozja/Zadnor there'll always be various fates on at once, at least 1 per area, enough for everyone to get enough of them at any given time.
Tbh I'm really glad Bozja is not Eureka and you can just jump in and do whatever.
And as others said, get a group.

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Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge

The two things I learned very fast:
- Be in a group: Even if you are the first at the fate, you may only get silver if you are alone. Just shout "lfg zone (1, 2 or 3)"

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This. Was at zone 3 and waiting the esper fate to start, fought with tank stance on for a whole minute or 2 alone until people came in and still god silver (took 50% of one of the 2 bosses) so yeah, just get a group or be really juiced with essences and skill to make a difference.

A healer with dps essence plus Cleric Stance does A LOT for example

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Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge

To what do they scale when the pop for the first time in a new instance?

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To 1 person. You shouldn't take "new instance" literally, because instances aren't necessarily new. They just stop letting people in for a while. In that time the fates have probably spawned and expired and scaled to 1 person again.

It's relevant that while the amount of people who fought that fate previously affects the scaling, the amount of people who fought fates linked to it is also relevant. What fates are linked together is something that can only be observed.

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Originally Posted by Avidria

This isn't even a matter of people being impatient, it's like... every fate feels super undertuned. the CEs feel fine but the fates just melt. I'm pretty sure the dino is actually made of papier-mâché.

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Yeah, there have been some, like the "Still Only Counts As One" in the third zone(LoTR reference anyone?) where I get there and both enemies are still at 90%+ HP, then all of a sudden the mammoth drops dead(see it's HP in the enemy list go from almost full to nothing in a second, with only 5-6 people around it), then a second or two later the imperial dies. Not sure what actions people are using...but there definitely seems to be some tuning issues going on.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

They scale based on the activity in the area. If you are completely alone for hours you will find you can solo them, but if a lot of people are fighting them their health increases a lot.

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Full instance, and a FATE just vanishes roughly a minute after it spawns....definitely more than just scaling.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

They scale based on the activity in the area.

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Basically this.

The issue happens when a Fate pops in the second part of the map (example) and nearly everyone rushes there. This leaves zone 1 almost empty. If a fate spawns in zone 1 at this time, it will now be massively undertuned because only a few players are in that zone. The huge crowd of players in zone 2 finish their fate and rush over to zone 1. They melt the fate in 30 seconds. Meanwhile zone 2 is empty now and another undertuned fate pops there. And so on.

You can see the intention of the design is that new players at the starting area don't get stuck with difficult fates while everyone else is in the higher zones. But it doesn't work in practice, nor is it necessary when even high level players travel between all the areas and you need various items from each zone.

The fates pop fast enough that you can generally stick to one of the three zone and still be hitting them consistently, and covering just a third of the map means you can get to them before they hit 0.

Also join a group/start one if needed so that multiple people are hitting things so you can get gold even if you show up to one partway through.

join a farm group so when you get there and somehow to land a hit on the mob you still get gold from your group who got there arleady.

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Originally Posted by Venandi

I have all the aetherytes unlocked, I bought the riding map, and I still cannot reach the fates because people kill them in less than a minute. Can people chill with the fates? Back in Stormblood people waited patiently and set a pull time so everyone - newbies and veterans alike - can get there in time. What is your hurry to kill the Zadnor fates so quickly? This was a problem in the Southern Front and it still is in Zadnor. Like ffs I got 3 silver medals in a row because people have no patience. And this is with most people only have 1 or 2 stacks of damage valors. Imagine what it would be like when everyone has 10 and the fates die in 30 seconds. The developers need to fix this by doubling the HP of the fates, but players also have the responsibility to be patient and wait.

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With SB did you mean Eureka?
In Eureka people set pull time for the NM fate because it took some effort to spawn them, and the time is set by the spawners. People are more respectful to wait for the pull time because, well they're not the one who spawned it.
Here they just spawn on timer so people just engage them directly whenever.

I do agree that skirmishes might be a little under tuned as they get shredded regardless
but yeah best bet is just stick to middle of said zone and wait for skirmishes