Classes are dreadfully boring to play at lv 50 and below. Something needs to be done.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

Their mistake was to not rely more on uprgading skills... that way we could have like 2-3x as much skills, but using still the same ammount of buttons. While it also sucks how, with all the homogenization they still didnt manage to give jobs their base rotation, aoe rotation and stuff like gabclosers around the same levels...

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This, on both points.

MCH is really sync friendly. Automaton queen turns into turret, Air Anchor turns into Hot Shot and my bars (PS4) stay exactly as they are at 80. Where as with WHM and PLD I have pre 50 hotbars and 80 hotbars, because they don’t upgrade anything, just replace it with new stuff.

And yeah, a bit annoying to go in a dungeon and have no aoe while the dancer does.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Yeah. I'm a long time WoW player (and FF XIV player) and I ended up bowing out of their latest expansion about 2 weeks in. It's...questionable to put it mildly, in more than a few ways. Heck, they even started sending out very lengthy surveys already. They usually don't do that unless it's ugly behind the scenes.

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They're probably rather desperate to make Shadowlands a success. BFA was such a huge disaster that their Activision overlords are breathing down their neck.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

They're probably rather desperate to make Shadowlands a success. BFA was such a huge disaster that their Activision overlords are breathing down their neck.

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Well, if they were actually desperate then they might have tried harder while creating it. lol Anymore it isn't about players enjoying the game. It is all about the time played metric, whatever the cost. I'm done feeding that metric.

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Originally Posted by Vickii

This, on both points.

MCH is really sync friendly. Automaton queen turns into turret, Air Anchor turns into Hot Shot and my bars (PS4) stay exactly as they are at 80. Where as with WHM and PLD I have pre 50 hotbars and 80 hotbars, because they don’t upgrade anything, just replace it with new stuff.

And yeah, a bit annoying to go in a dungeon and have no aoe while the dancer does.

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This is more on the point MCH doesn’t develop what so ever rather than it being “synch friendly” and if every job had MCH design philosophy the game will be freaking boring that all your looking forward too are shallow upgrades

I kinda don’t care about this topic unless theirs a fan base really crossing fingers for sastasha to be played more often. Look 50 stuff and under can be boring all we can hope is that they balance out the jobs abit more at 50 Under 50 is a realm I really don’t care about but some jobs having no Aoe options is abit bizzare and should get them earlier that’s about it. They are starter dungeons having your full 80 kit while new players are just standing around makes the dungeons trivial more worse if they are over leveled due a poor system giving you 6 levels and having job quests in areas that you never seen before

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

Their mistake was to not rely more on uprgading skills... that way we could have like 2-3x as much skills, but using still the same ammount of buttons. While it also sucks how, with all the homogenization they still didnt manage to give jobs their base rotation, aoe rotation and stuff like gabclosers around the same levels...

By how the game is made, we got more sub lv 50 or lv 50 stuff then for the rest and rouletts will always drag you there more, as the range is just so large - plus we have ppl taking off gear just for a braindead tower run...

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I think the reasoning behind this was that they didn't want to overwhelm new players with too many buttons early on; they wanted the addition of new abilities to be gradual enough for people to slowly learn them while leveling.

I do agree that the level synching is kind of a drag, but there aren't many good ways around it.

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Originally Posted by SharkDrake

It is such a drag to level a new class or get a low level dungeon when alot of your skills are disabled and you only have a few skills to use. There should be more skills added into lv 10-60 range. I suggest moving some high level skills down to below 50, or allow your skills to be usable regardless of synced content you're doing. Please let Yoshi or whoever in charge of class balance in Japan know this.

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I don't find it boring at all. Perhaps some minor adjustments to when aoe skills are given is warranted but that's about it. No need for an 80 level job kit in Satasha.

Yeah, at this point I hate the combat under lv50 so much I pretend leveling roulette doesn't exist. I'll take PotD, fates or even GUILDLEVES over it.

I don't remember their stance on this being expressed, but even if they claimed it was so players wouldn't be overwhelmed I seriously wouldn't buy that. The one common complaint I've seen from almost every relatively new player I invite or who join the FCs I'm in is about how they hate syncing down to the ARR MSQ duties. Most players don't struggle with so few buttons and the staff shouldn't implement solutions for non-existing problems.

I enjoy leveling roulette. I get to chill and collect 20 of the latest currency to boot. Tis win win.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

I enjoy leveling roulette. I get to chill and collect 20 of the latest currency to boot. Tis win win.

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I use it to...level things. Been running my dps classes that I haven't finished yet through that roulette and Alliance on a daily basis.